I’ve been using 200mg/week test cyp for 3 weeks now, pinning EOD. I’m also taking 1.75mg (.5mg EOD) adex/week and HCG 250IU EOD. Just yesterday I started noticing a little chest tenderness like a tingling. Today the tissue just under (proximal not inferior) my nipple is sore. I used to be obese and have a small amount of gyno left over (slightly larger than a quater in size), so I don’t feel any new gyno but the tissue that is already there is a little sore. I am pushing my doc to get a lab order so I can see where my E2 levels are, but in the mean time, isn’t the adex dosed at 1mg per 100mg of test?
Should I bump it up just in case, since gyno is not reversable? Or, is this a case where Nolva would be better. If I bump adex, how would you suggest spitting the dose since the tabs can only be split in half - take a whole tab then a half, alternating EOD?
if you are taking more than 1mg of Arimidex a week or more than 100mg of T-Cyp a week, then you are more than likely overcompensating for some other imbalance in your system by overdosing on T and aromatase control which does not work.
I know I was in the same boat except I was taking 7mg of Arimidex a week + 200mg T-Cyp a week and others things and was still having symptoms and problems. Once I got some of those other things fixed, I was able to drop back to 1mg Arimidex a week and 110mg T-Cyp. Per my “MY HRT Journey” thread.
is your thyroid (Free T3 and Reverse T3) all balanced?
is your cortisol right were it needs to be? (15 AM reading or x4 daily testing)
is your Vitamin D3 25OH good? what about ferritin? B12? etc.
[quote]PureChance wrote:
if you are taking more than 1mg of Arimidex a week or more than 100mg of T-Cyp a week, then you are more than likely overcompensating for some other imbalance in your system by overdosing on T and aromatase control which does not work.
I know I was in the same boat except I was taking 7mg of Arimidex a week + 200mg T-Cyp a week and others things and was still having symptoms and problems. Once I got some of those other things fixed, I was able to drop back to 1mg Arimidex a week and 110mg T-Cyp. Per my “MY HRT Journey” thread.
is your thyroid (Free T3 and Reverse T3) all balanced?
is your cortisol right were it needs to be? (15 AM reading or x4 daily testing)
is your Vitamin D3 25OH good? what about ferritin? B12? etc.[/quote]
Labs are pending, but I am well versed in wellness (I teach it) and my diet and suppls are top of the line. My stress levels are moderate and I eat a very low-glycemic diet so I know cortisol is fine. Is it possible that I am under-responding to the adex?
[quote]PureChance wrote:
if you are taking more than 1mg of Arimidex a week or more than 100mg of T-Cyp a week, then you are more than likely overcompensating for some other imbalance in your system by overdosing on T and aromatase control which does not work.
I know I was in the same boat except I was taking 7mg of Arimidex a week + 200mg T-Cyp a week and others things and was still having symptoms and problems. Once I got some of those other things fixed, I was able to drop back to 1mg Arimidex a week and 110mg T-Cyp. Per my “MY HRT Journey” thread.
is your thyroid (Free T3 and Reverse T3) all balanced?
is your cortisol right were it needs to be? (15 AM reading or x4 daily testing)
is your Vitamin D3 25OH good? what about ferritin? B12? etc.[/quote]
Also, you said get “other things” in check, but let’s assume the average mass gaining steroid user is balanced, how do guys dose adex (or more broadly, control aromatization) when they are pinning upwards of 500mg/week of test? Same 100mg:1mg ratio?
not to be disrespectful - just because you eat right and are on a very low-glycemic index does not mean that your Cortisol levels are fine. The only way (and actually very simple way) to know that is to do an AM blood test or a saliva test four times throughout the day.
If you are at 10 or less then you probably have a cortisol issue, and IF you have a problem with Cortisol then more than likely you have a problem with your Thyroid as well.
You are taking twice as much Testosterone and Arimidex then most people require. Doesn’t it seem likely that the dosage your require is a sign that something else is ‘off’ with your system? If the rest of your systems were at 100%, you could probably feel better with less T and less aromatase control.
But that is just my current working theory.
Let us know what your tests results are.
As a side note, I have always been able to get my tests results within 7 days of getting the blood drawn. The longer delays are just due to lazy or overworked staff at your doctor’s office. Call them on day seven and ask for the results to be faxed to you.
[quote]PureChance wrote:
if you are taking more than 1mg of Arimidex a week or more than 100mg of T-Cyp a week, then you are more than likely overcompensating for some other imbalance in your system by overdosing on T and aromatase control which does not work.
I know I was in the same boat except I was taking 7mg of Arimidex a week + 200mg T-Cyp a week and others things and was still having symptoms and problems. Once I got some of those other things fixed, I was able to drop back to 1mg Arimidex a week and 110mg T-Cyp. Per my “MY HRT Journey” thread.
is your thyroid (Free T3 and Reverse T3) all balanced?
is your cortisol right were it needs to be? (15 AM reading or x4 daily testing)
is your Vitamin D3 25OH good? what about ferritin? B12? etc.[/quote]
Also, you said get “other things” in check, but let’s assume the average mass gaining steroid user is balanced, how do guys dose adex (or more broadly, control aromatization) when they are pinning upwards of 500mg/week of test? Same 100mg:1mg ratio?
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They probably do not keep E2 in the “optimal” range at those doses of test on Adex alone. Of course, cycles typically run 12 weeks max, while TRT is for life. Adex tends to be self-limiting, meaning that once you are taking a large enough dose, you will not see any additional drops in E2 beyond that point.
[quote]TopSirloin wrote:
Also, you said get “other things” in check, but let’s assume the average mass gaining steroid user is balanced, how do guys dose adex (or more broadly, control aromatization) when they are pinning upwards of 500mg/week of test? Same 100mg:1mg ratio?[/quote]
I am not trying to be difficult. I am just not sure what I can offer to help.
Why not get a simple blood test (per the blood test sticky) and get all of your systems checked out (Assuming you have insurance coverage)? That way you can confirm you are in perfect balance or you will see where your system may be struggling and will then have the information you need to start to fix it.
I assume that the average person taking any type of Testosterone either for HRT or for cycles is not balanced - that has worked in my favor so far.
I have never cycled so I have no idea the Arimidex dosing for 500mg/week of test. I have a hard enough time with my HRT protocol. Considering taking more test intentionally to throw my system off more is completely out of the question.
[quote]KSman wrote:
Arimidex/anastrozole is always an oral. It is very well absorbed with or without food. Take any time of day.[/quote]
Are they coated? If not can they be ground into powder and dissolved or suspended in liquid?
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Must be partly alcohol, vodka works. Some have done this, but not many reports. Still expensive at $8-$10 per mg. However, there are generics now in the $6 range.
I found out my adex is .25mg NOT 1mg… I swear when I ordered it the supplier said 1mg. But, definitely not since I have had the symptoms of too much estrodiol. Anyway, it’s actually more helpful that it is dosed like this as I can now dial it in. Plus I can split them in half if need be. Since I can get it down to .125mg per half tab, no need to go liquid… got enough liquid stuff to worry about. BTW, Balkan is the brand of adex I have, they make 1mg and .25mg tabs.
I have assumed that I have had Gyno since I was in my early 20’s but after reading everything on this site I could find and everything I could find on the internet, I’m not so sure that is what I have. I don’t seem to have any lump under my nipple, which seems to be the defining trait, but I do have some little glandular feeling lumps in the fat away from the nipple. They seem to be concentrated more towards the arm pit side of the chest. Can anyone point me in the right direction?