[quote]lixy wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Why are they hiding his identity?
I am thinking the same thing.
Gee…I wonder why PRCalDude, Zap and Skaz share this concern?
Could you be any more transparent?[/quote]
What’s wrong with wanting to know who this guy is?
[quote]Gerg wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
had to EDIT
crazy people scare me
how are they going to rehabilitate this guy? He is never going to be a productive member of society
I am convinced that there are some people who are what they are; no form of rehabilitation will ever change them. It’s like training a tiger; they may do what you want, but they will always be a tiger and will kill you if you’re not careful.
To quote one of my favorite movies (and books):
As a child, my heart bleeds for him. Someone took a little boy and turned him into a monster. But as an adult… as an adult, he’s irredeemable. He butchers whole families to fulfill some sick fantasy. As an adult, I think someone should blow the sick fuck out of his socks.
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/Threadjack
Hannibal Lector voted #1 villain
/Threadjack over
[quote]TornadoTommy wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but I say that since the guy tried to escape, it shows that he had the reasoning to know that he did wrong and thus should face 1st degree murder charges. [/quote]
Not exactly. Mental capacity has to be proven to show that he carefully planned out the entire thing. the escape argument could be defeated by saying that he only had temporary insanity (like a split personality etc).
IF you argue that he did plan it out…then you have to prove why a sane man, knowing the consequences would kill in such a fashion on a loaded bus.
Tim Mclean myspace:
They really need to remove that Valentine massacre poster with the knife in the heart.
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
Tim Mclean myspace:
They really need to remove that Valentine massacre poster with the knife in the heart.
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There is a facebook memorial group as well as that myspace
[quote]Magnate wrote:
Tim McLean Jr.[/quote]
Now that is a crying shame. Good looking kid. I simply cannot begin to imagine what his family must be going through.
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
Tim Mclean myspace:
They really need to remove that Valentine massacre poster with the knife in the heart.
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Yes, that does seem in poor taste and highly inappropriate now.
[quote]Magnate wrote:
Gerg wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
had to EDIT
crazy people scare me
how are they going to rehabilitate this guy? He is never going to be a productive member of society
I am convinced that there are some people who are what they are; no form of rehabilitation will ever change them. It’s like training a tiger; they may do what you want, but they will always be a tiger and will kill you if you’re not careful.
To quote one of my favorite movies (and books):
As a child, my heart bleeds for him. Someone took a little boy and turned him into a monster. But as an adult… as an adult, he’s irredeemable. He butchers whole families to fulfill some sick fantasy. As an adult, I think someone should blow the sick fuck out of his socks.
/Threadjack
Hannibal Lector voted #1 villain
/Threadjack over
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Well done.
[quote]MsM wrote:
Magnate wrote:
Tim McLean Jr.
Now that is a crying shame. Good looking kid. I simply cannot begin to imagine what his family must be going through.[/quote]
I think he looks like Ash Catchum from Pokemon.
I realize that comment is in poor taste in light of recent events, but I’ve been wanting to say it this whole thread.
Personally, I wouldn’t have this guy killed if I had the chance.
Killing someone out of revenge or “justice” doesn’t solve anything. I’m sure people would love to talk shit and say that they would kill this guy, but that would all change when you have a gun in your hands.
And yeah…
He does look like Ash Ketchum. (I think that’s how you spell it)
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
TornadoTommy wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but I say that since the guy tried to escape, it shows that he had the reasoning to know that he did wrong and thus should face 1st degree murder charges.
Not exactly. Mental capacity has to be proven to show that he carefully planned out the entire thing. the escape argument could be defeated by saying that he only had temporary insanity (like a split personality etc).
IF you argue that he did plan it out…then you have to prove why a sane man, knowing the consequences would kill in such a fashion on a loaded bus.
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man all that mental capacity and shit, its all bullshit to me. i think the fact that the dude is killing and beheading a COMPLETELY RANDOM PERSON is all the more reason to put the maximum penalty against him.
and at what point is anybody committing murder considered to be “sane”?
i know many would disagree with me, but the laws of the US, and apparently canada, are just too forgiving in my opinion. more people deserve the death penalty than recieve it. i’m sure people would disagree. that is, until one of their loved ones is beheaded.
[quote]ktennies wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
TornadoTommy wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but I say that since the guy tried to escape, it shows that he had the reasoning to know that he did wrong and thus should face 1st degree murder charges.
Not exactly. Mental capacity has to be proven to show that he carefully planned out the entire thing. the escape argument could be defeated by saying that he only had temporary insanity (like a split personality etc).
IF you argue that he did plan it out…then you have to prove why a sane man, knowing the consequences would kill in such a fashion on a loaded bus.
man all that mental capacity and shit, its all bullshit to me. i think the fact that the dude is killing and beheading a COMPLETELY RANDOM PERSON is all the more reason to put the maximum penalty against him.
and at what point is anybody committing murder considered to be “sane”?
i know many would disagree with me, but the laws of the US, and apparently canada, are just too forgiving in my opinion. more people deserve the death penalty than recieve it. i’m sure people would disagree. that is, until one of their loved ones is beheaded.[/quote]
In the US i think our problem with the death penalty is how long we wait to use it after sentencing someone to death. People wait on death row far too long
[quote]Magnate wrote:
ktennies wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
TornadoTommy wrote:
Thanks for the clarification but I say that since the guy tried to escape, it shows that he had the reasoning to know that he did wrong and thus should face 1st degree murder charges.
Not exactly. Mental capacity has to be proven to show that he carefully planned out the entire thing. the escape argument could be defeated by saying that he only had temporary insanity (like a split personality etc).
IF you argue that he did plan it out…then you have to prove why a sane man, knowing the consequences would kill in such a fashion on a loaded bus.
man all that mental capacity and shit, its all bullshit to me. i think the fact that the dude is killing and beheading a COMPLETELY RANDOM PERSON is all the more reason to put the maximum penalty against him.
and at what point is anybody committing murder considered to be “sane”?
i know many would disagree with me, but the laws of the US, and apparently canada, are just too forgiving in my opinion. more people deserve the death penalty than recieve it. i’m sure people would disagree. that is, until one of their loved ones is beheaded.
In the US i think our problem with the death penalty is how long we wait to use it after sentencing someone to death. People wait on death row far too long[/quote]
yeah, i can agree with that. everything has to be politically correct.
[quote]lixy wrote:
skaz05 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Why are they hiding his identity?
I am thinking the same thing.
Gee…I wonder why PRCalDude, Zap and Skaz share this concern?
Could you be any more transparent?[/quote]
Too bad it didn’t happen in America, now you don’t have a shot at justification.
Vince Weiguang Li snapped because Tim McLean refused to turn down the volume on his walkman.
Thats about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
A failing marriage, inability to communicate with people around him for several years, midife crisis working at a McDonalds at 40 on low income, family emergency - and the walkman argument was the last straw.
Sometimes people snap…many countries have had riots where regular joes have committed unspeakable acts (videos of average people cutting a pregnant woman open and burning the fetus are around)…why does this shock us?
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Vince Weiguang Li snapped because Tim McLean refused to turn down the volume on his walkman.
Thats about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
A failing marriage, inability to communicate with people around him for several years, midife crisis working at a McDonalds at 40 on low income, family emergency - and the walkman argument was the last straw.
Sometimes people snap…many countries have had riots where regular joes have committed unspeakable acts (videos of average people cutting a pregnant woman open and burning the fetus are around)…why does this shock us?
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He brought the knife with him on the bus, and you think that circumstances on the bus are what provoked the attack? Everything I read said that McLean was asleep, head leaning against the window, got a link to something that says otherwise?
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Vince Weiguang Li snapped because Tim McLean refused to turn down the volume on his walkman.
Thats about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
A failing marriage, inability to communicate with people around him for several years, midife crisis working at a McDonalds at 40 on low income, family emergency - and the walkman argument was the last straw.
Sometimes people snap…many countries have had riots where regular joes have committed unspeakable acts (videos of average people cutting a pregnant woman open and burning the fetus are around)…why does this shock us?
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And? If things aren’t going your way you fucking deal with it. You don’t cut somebody’s head off with a knife.
In fresh and related news,
Gruesome crime shocks Greek isle
Police on the Greek island of Santorini have shot and injured a knifeman who decapitated his girlfriend and walked around the streets with her head.
What the fsck in wrong with people?
Umm…show me where I defended the nutbag. I just said human beings are very very capable of deep dark deplorable acts, even hitherto-assumed-normal people like you and I. It just takes a crazy mix of events to trigger a blind rage that causes all loss of sanity.
As Atticus finch said, you can never understand exactly what went through a person’s mind until youve walked the earth in his shoes as long as he’s lived (or something to that effect)
Should it be condoned? hell no.
Death penalty (minimum) would at least serve as some sort of deterrant against future crimes of this magnitude. I;m just saying we’re all basically sadistic animals capable of snapping anytime, who are convinced to stay “human” out of our fear of authority and capital punishment.
[quote]Wimpy wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Vince Weiguang Li snapped because Tim McLean refused to turn down the volume on his walkman.
Thats about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
A failing marriage, inability to communicate with people around him for several years, midife crisis working at a McDonalds at 40 on low income, family emergency - and the walkman argument was the last straw.
Sometimes people snap…many countries have had riots where regular joes have committed unspeakable acts (videos of average people cutting a pregnant woman open and burning the fetus are around)…why does this shock us?
And? If things aren’t going your way you fucking deal with it. You don’t cut somebody’s head off with a knife. [/quote]
I did find a few links, will try looking for them. What I related was communicated to me by a few people who might be in the know.
[quote]Magnate wrote:
tribunaldude wrote:
Vince Weiguang Li snapped because Tim McLean refused to turn down the volume on his walkman.
Thats about it. Nothing more, nothing less.
A failing marriage, inability to communicate with people around him for several years, midife crisis working at a McDonalds at 40 on low income, family emergency - and the walkman argument was the last straw.
Sometimes people snap…many countries have had riots where regular joes have committed unspeakable acts (videos of average people cutting a pregnant woman open and burning the fetus are around)…why does this shock us?
He brought the knife with him on the bus, and you think that circumstances on the bus are what provoked the attack? Everything I read said that McLean was asleep, head leaning against the window, got a link to something that says otherwise?
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