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… How unbecoming of female athletes and to think of all the young little girls who look up to these girls. Its a travesty.
This shit is ridiculous. Also, if you think NBC is representative of America, you are an idiot.
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal.
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I’m sorry…but what does this have to do with how you conduct yourself on NATIONAL TV WHILE BEING INTERVIEWED?
I hope no one had pictures of my frat brother’s bachelor party…but that still won’t change how I conduct myself if I get interviewed (I actually have been interveiwed for a newspaper before when I was in high school and I didn’t start skipping class in front of the camera either).
You really think this is about following athletes around and checking in on them at parties?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You really think this is about following athletes around and checking in on them at parties?[/quote]
I guess that’s the high visibility athlete’s cross to bear and you can pick your example, but if you are at that level you cannot be unseen and aspects of your personal life will eventually be broadcast on network news channels for those without lives to criticize.
When you are interviewing, you want somebody to give you something. When you are being interviewed, somebody wants you to give them something.
Depending on the nature of your situation, refusing to abide may cause you a minor headache as was w/ the case of these athletes, or a major pain in the neck as is the case w/ professional/commercial athletes.
Snowboarding is generally a subcultures sport as is bodybuilding, powerlifting, speed skating?, so you can get away with more as people aren’t exposed to your antics. When these guys get some mainstream news coverage, they end up looking like assholes more often than not.
Its the professional athletes, football, baseball, basketball, that everybody watches just because thats whats on TV, whose lives are in the public eye.
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Its funny how we are holding an athlete from an obscure sport to the same standards as North American sports heros when it comes to interviewing skills. Top north american athletes are coached in interviewing, hell look at Sidney Crosby. The kid was as articulate in an interview as an enlish prof before he was drafted. I dont know much about other countries but I doubt they put as much time/money into something so trivial as an interview.
I imagine they even have a hard time getting funding together for training for their actual event. Its not like this is a soccer player (whom our overseas cousins seem to be so fond of), hes a speed skater. The big north american leagues are businesses, the athletes are just as much the product as the on field play is. Fuck, look what the NBA did to AI and the likes with their dress codes. This guy is a pure athlete, not someone who is concerned about his public imagine. Olympics are full of athletes, not everyone is a professional in their sport.
Some barely make ends meet. Regardless of the reason for her asking the questions she asked, it was an emotional, raw response, not like the trained and practiced responses we are used to hearing from North American athletes such as “Well we trained really hard all year, I’d like to thank my coaches, family, god…etc etc”.
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Speedskating is as popular as baseball in Holland. He is as well known in Holland as Joe DiMaggio is here so it is perfectly legitimate to hold him to our standards. All major sports players, in whatever country, should be held to the same high standards as being articulate and professional as possible.
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…or else what exactly? You’ll invade us for being rude?
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You don’t agree that people who are famous should act a certain way? I’m sure he’s a role model in your country. Wouldn’t you want him to act with some civility? I do agree the reporter was dumb, but famous people are asked dumb questions all the time and should know how to answer them.
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…i really coudn’t care less about celebrities being rolemodels. Yes, he was rude. He should’ve known better, but the moral ‘outrage’ is exaggerated…
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I understand athletes do dumb shit. I played with plenty. The problem is you have to understand who’s colors you’re wearing when you do dumb shit. Don’t go out in public and do dumb shit wearing team apparel. That’s it. Make yourself look bad. Don’t make your country/school/club look bad by representing them visually. If the Canadian girls took their sweaters off, I really wouldn’t care, but they did it representing Canada. It really is that symbolic.
I’m just shocked that anyone still watches the Olympics.
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I understand athletes do dumb shit. I played with plenty. The problem is you have to understand who’s colors you’re wearing when you do dumb shit. Don’t go out in public and do dumb shit wearing team apparel. That’s it. Make yourself look bad. Don’t make your country/school/club look bad by representing them visually. If the Canadian girls took their sweaters off, I really wouldn’t care, but they did it representing Canada. It really is that symbolic.[/quote]
I’m being completely serious when I say that those beer drinking cigar smoking women made me proud. I love that I get to live in a place where women not only kick ass in hockey but also swill beer and smoke cigars.
I suppose we need a consensus on exactly what makes a bad role model before we start insisting that it is an athlete’s responsibility because I want every young girl to see those girls. Far better than any Britney spears shit that is for sure.
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[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I understand athletes do dumb shit. I played with plenty. The problem is you have to understand who’s colors you’re wearing when you do dumb shit. Don’t go out in public and do dumb shit wearing team apparel. That’s it.
Make yourself look bad. Don’t make your country/school/club look bad by representing them visually. If the Canadian girls took their sweaters off, I really wouldn’t care, but they did it representing Canada. It really is that symbolic.[/quote]
I’m being completely serious when I say that those beer drinking cigar smoking women made me proud. I love that I get to live in a place where women not only kick ass in hockey but also swill beer and smoke cigars. I suppose we need a consensus on exactly what makes a bad role model before we start insisting that it is an athlete’s responsibility because I want every young girl to see those girls. Far better than any Britney spears shit that is for sure.[/quote]
Amen! They’re all of legal age, so who cares!? There’s nothing wrong with smoking cigars and drinking beer.
EDIT: What’s the difference between them drinking on the ice and the baseball guys who drink champagne in the locker room after winning the World Series?
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[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I understand athletes do dumb shit. I played with plenty. The problem is you have to understand who’s colors you’re wearing when you do dumb shit. Don’t go out in public and do dumb shit wearing team apparel. That’s it.
Make yourself look bad. Don’t make your country/school/club look bad by representing them visually. If the Canadian girls took their sweaters off, I really wouldn’t care, but they did it representing Canada. It really is that symbolic.[/quote]
I’m being completely serious when I say that those beer drinking cigar smoking women made me proud. I love that I get to live in a place where women not only kick ass in hockey but also swill beer and smoke cigars.
I suppose we need a consensus on exactly what makes a bad role model before we start insisting that it is an athlete’s responsibility because I want every young girl to see those girls. Far better than any Britney spears shit that is for sure.[/quote]
Amen! They’re all of legal age, so who cares!? There’s nothing wrong with smoking cigars and drinking beer.
EDIT: What’s the difference between them drinking on the ice and the baseball guys who drink champagne in the locker room after winning the World Series?[/quote]
One was underage for a couple more months supposedly but whatever she just won gold. I have to wonder how much of the outrage comes from them being women/girls. But then everyone I’ve talked to except for my born again sister-in-law thinks it’s fine.
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I’m sorry, your from Holland? I think someone previously posted in thir thread from Holland and said he wasn’t well known at all. [/quote]
So we need a 3rd poster from Holland for a tie-breaker.[/quote]
He’s very well known, a few national ad campaigns running with his face on it. About half the country tuned in live for the races he was expecting to grab gold in (and those races were all around/after midnight).
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I love how people here are defending this idiot.
If he apologized after, it wouldn’t have been a big deal… but this guy is carrying on like he genuinely doesn’t get how he fucked up on that.[/quote]
Exactly. If this were Terrel Owens, I am seriously doubting this many people would be stepping forward to IGNORE AND FORGIVE what a jackass he was.[/quote]
If TO was asked to identify himself after winning the Super Bowl, he’d be pissed too. And I’d understand that.[/quote]
Yeah, and if he called the reporter stupid like that he would likely be fined some large amount of money and then be made fun of and heckled on tv and the internet for it.
Here, the athlete gets excuses made for him and praise.[/quote]
Honestly, imagining this scenario in my head, I’m dead certain he would call the reporter stupid. I would not hold this against him. I doubt you would either. So what’s different about Kramer?
[quote]debraD wrote:
[quote]hockechamp14 wrote:
[quote]theuofh wrote:
What about the bronze medalist snowboarder who used his medal to get some female attention of the asian persuasion? He actually left the Olympics for this. What a bunch of horse shit and its something 90% of the males on this board would attempt to do with or without a medal. [/quote]
I understand athletes do dumb shit. I played with plenty. The problem is you have to understand who’s colors you’re wearing when you do dumb shit. Don’t go out in public and do dumb shit wearing team apparel. That’s it. Make yourself look bad. Don’t make your country/school/club look bad by representing them visually. If the Canadian girls took their sweaters off, I really wouldn’t care, but they did it representing Canada. It really is that symbolic.[/quote]
I’m being completely serious when I say that those beer drinking cigar smoking women made me proud. I love that I get to live in a place where women not only kick ass in hockey but also swill beer and smoke cigars.
I suppose we need a consensus on exactly what makes a bad role model before we start insisting that it is an athlete’s responsibility because I want every young girl to see those girls. Far better than any Britney spears shit that is for sure.[/quote]
You make a great point on that. Definitely something that’s interesting to ponder.
I’m not butt hurt over the celebration, but it’s more a matter of covering your own ass and your organization’s ass. I think the main reason it was on the ice is the women probably ended up with crappy “leftover” locker rooms anyways - certainly not suitable to celebrate a gold medal victory inside.
Anyhow, if Hockey Canada wants to punish the ladies, that’s their prerogative and understandable as they were wearing their sweaters. If the IOC wants to punish them they can go fuck themselves, you just awarded those ladies their dream. They should be flattered it has so much prestige.