Glute Ham Raise

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[quote]adarqui wrote:

thats why a bunch of eastern bloc white sprinters have broken sub-10 right?

ghr’s must be magical…

k.

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That’s parallel arguing, there slugger. Nice job of deflecting from the fact it is a piece of equipment designed to develop musculature in sprinters to assist in competitive applications. They observed top tier sprinters and one of the things they noticed was amount of muscle mass they carried in their glutes and hams.

Just be a man and admit you’re wrong instead of posting stupid shit and then scampering off.

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[quote]fish_burps wrote:
adarqui wrote:

  • and you can dorsiflex

There SHOULD be dorsiflexion when doing GHRs. As in, on a real GHR bench. Dorsiflex on the eccentric, plantarflex on the concentric.

Personally, I’m not convinced that there’s anything magical about GHRs. I think one can get plenty strong with just barbell exercises. But I’d definitely take GHRs over leg curls.

Also, IMO GHRs are one of the most bastardized exercises out there. When done right, body weight should be difficult. On the other hand, it’s easy to start piling on weight/bands if you turn it into a cheat back extension, but that defeats the whole purpose of doing them. [/quote]

well you can’t dorsiflex during the concentric with the ghr… and that is what the recovery leg does during sprinting… dorsiflex ankle + flex knee to create a shorter & more powerful arc.

peace

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[quote]Pinto wrote:
We have one at my gym. Some guys use it every week, some occasionally, some not at all. I have seen very strong guys struggle to do a set of 5 cheat reps with the knees way off the pad. I have seen kinda weak guys rep-out on it with a purple band across their shoulders.

It is a good glute/hamstring exercise that does not require holding a barbell. Nothing more- nothign less.

I don’t think it will change your lifting drasticly- but you’ll never know if you don’t try.[/quote]
this thread should of ended with this post.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
adarqui wrote:

thats why a bunch of eastern bloc white sprinters have broken sub-10 right?

ghr’s must be magical…

k.

That’s parallel arguing, there slugger. Nice job of deflecting from the fact it is a piece of equipment designed to develop musculature in sprinters to assist in competitive applications. They observed top tier sprinters and one of the things they noticed was amount of muscle mass they carried in their glutes and hams.

Just be a man and admit you’re wrong instead of posting stupid shit and then scampering off.

[/quote]

“parallel arguing” + “slugger” + “competitive applications” = fail.

it’s not parallel arguing, you claimed GHR’s were meant to bring white sprinters capable of competing with black sprinters, and if this is the case, then it’s obviously doing a bad job…

admit im wrong? poliquin is an advocate of leg curls for sprinting… go run your mouth at him and see where that gets you.

who woulda thought sprinters have lots of muscle in their glutes and hamstrings, thanks for pointing that out… top tier sprinters got this mass from ghr’s? explain that? no they got it from genetics & sprinting… you can use ghr’s to help try and improve hamstring mass, but leg curls will be more effective… leg curls also are more specific to the recovery leg in sprinting so you can whine all day long about ghr’s being super-godlike-magical but they aren’t… you want to hit hip extension, knee flexion, plantar flexion, and hip flexion… quads develop easy as they experience very high forces upon stiking the ground.

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Oh boy. Please, don’t tell me I “fail”. I feel like such an internet pariah. Whatever will I do.

At lease you didn’t post a nifty little photo for me. I like the faceplant one, myself.

So what are you? Some Poliquin parrot. Polly want a cracker?

Give me his phone number and I would be glad to have a conversation with him around the topic. I would be fascinated to gain his insight. It would be worth every minute of my time.

The fact stands that the reason for it’s development was to build the muscles to help competitive sprinters. Unless you have a time machine, you can’t change that.

Now run along and continue to think you know more than Eastern Block coaches.

[quote]adarqui wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
adarqui wrote:

thats why a bunch of eastern bloc white sprinters have broken sub-10 right?

ghr’s must be magical…

k.

That’s parallel arguing, there slugger. Nice job of deflecting from the fact it is a piece of equipment designed to develop musculature in sprinters to assist in competitive applications. They observed top tier sprinters and one of the things they noticed was amount of muscle mass they carried in their glutes and hams.

Just be a man and admit you’re wrong instead of posting stupid shit and then scampering off.

“parallel arguing” + “slugger” + “competitive applications” = fail.

it’s not parallel arguing, you claimed GHR’s were meant to bring white sprinters capable of competing with black sprinters, and if this is the case, then it’s obviously doing a bad job…

admit im wrong? poliquin is an advocate of leg curls for sprinting… go run your mouth at him and see where that gets you.

who woulda thought sprinters have lots of muscle in their glutes and hamstrings, thanks for pointing that out… top tier sprinters got this mass from ghr’s? explain that? no they got it from genetics & sprinting… you can use ghr’s to help try and improve hamstring mass, but leg curls will be more effective… leg curls also are more specific to the recovery leg in sprinting so you can whine all day long about ghr’s being super-godlike-magical but they aren’t… you want to hit hip extension, knee flexion, plantar flexion, and hip flexion… quads develop easy as they experience very high forces upon stiking the ground.

[/quote]

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
Oh boy. Please, don’t tell me I “fail”. I feel like such an internet pariah. Whatever will I do.

At lease you didn’t post a nifty little photo for me. I like the faceplant one, myself.

So what are you? Some Poliquin parrot. Polly want a cracker?

Give me his phone number and I would be glad to have a conversation with him around the topic. I would be fascinated to gain his insight. It would be worth every minute of my time.

The fact stands that the reason for it’s development was to build the muscles to help competitive sprinters. Unless you have a time machine, you can’t change that.

Now run along and continue to think you know more than Eastern Block coaches.

adarqui wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
adarqui wrote:

thats why a bunch of eastern bloc white sprinters have broken sub-10 right?

ghr’s must be magical…

k.

That’s parallel arguing, there slugger. Nice job of deflecting from the fact it is a piece of equipment designed to develop musculature in sprinters to assist in competitive applications. They observed top tier sprinters and one of the things they noticed was amount of muscle mass they carried in their glutes and hams.

Just be a man and admit you’re wrong instead of posting stupid shit and then scampering off.

“parallel arguing” + “slugger” + “competitive applications” = fail.

it’s not parallel arguing, you claimed GHR’s were meant to bring white sprinters capable of competing with black sprinters, and if this is the case, then it’s obviously doing a bad job…

admit im wrong? poliquin is an advocate of leg curls for sprinting… go run your mouth at him and see where that gets you.

who woulda thought sprinters have lots of muscle in their glutes and hamstrings, thanks for pointing that out… top tier sprinters got this mass from ghr’s? explain that? no they got it from genetics & sprinting… you can use ghr’s to help try and improve hamstring mass, but leg curls will be more effective… leg curls also are more specific to the recovery leg in sprinting so you can whine all day long about ghr’s being super-godlike-magical but they aren’t… you want to hit hip extension, knee flexion, plantar flexion, and hip flexion… quads develop easy as they experience very high forces upon stiking the ground.

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“The fact stands that the reason for it’s development was to build the muscles to help competitive sprinters. Unless you have a time machine, you can’t change that.”

how many dumb bullshit gimmicks have been developed to help people get faster? how does that have anything to do with its effectiveness…

and the reason the leg curl was developed was to train the hamstring in knee flexion? what is your fucking point? bodybuilders have huge hamstrings & glutes don’t they? i would say about 1% of them do ghr’s.

vertimax was developed to make you jump higher… doesn’t change the fact that it is incredibly useless.

you think people build ghr’s for fun and then just give them away? no, they make money off of them… of course companies involved in the performance industry will push ghr’s as being magical, when that is far from the truth.

bleh.

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[quote]adarqui wrote:

how many dumb bullshit gimmicks have been developed to help people get faster? how does that have anything to do with its effectiveness…

and the reason the leg curl was developed was to train the hamstring in knee flexion? what is your fucking point? bodybuilders have huge hamstrings & glutes don’t they? i would say about 1% of them do ghr’s.

vertimax was developed to make you jump higher… doesn’t change the fact that it is incredibly useless.

you think people build ghr’s for fun and then just give them away? no, they make money off of them… of course companies involved in the performance industry will push ghr’s as being magical, when that is far from the truth.

bleh.[/quote]

Oh boy. You went from the sprinting expert to the bodybuilder’s advocate. Struggling to bolster your point?

Now you have been reduced to comparing vertimax to a GHR?

Using terms like gimmick?

Run along child. Mommy wants to know if you want the crusts cut off your PB&J.

Don’t dawdle. You might not get desert.

Fuckface.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
adarqui wrote:

how many dumb bullshit gimmicks have been developed to help people get faster? how does that have anything to do with its effectiveness…

and the reason the leg curl was developed was to train the hamstring in knee flexion? what is your fucking point? bodybuilders have huge hamstrings & glutes don’t they? i would say about 1% of them do ghr’s.

vertimax was developed to make you jump higher… doesn’t change the fact that it is incredibly useless.

you think people build ghr’s for fun and then just give them away? no, they make money off of them… of course companies involved in the performance industry will push ghr’s as being magical, when that is far from the truth.

bleh.

Oh boy. You went from the sprinting expert to the bodybuilder’s advocate. Struggling to bolster your point?

Now you have been reduced to comparing vertimax to a GHR?

Using terms like gimmick?

Run along child. Mommy wants to know if you want the crusts cut off your PB&J.

Don’t dawdle. You might not get desert.

Fuckface.

[/quote]

replace the microphone in your avitar with a picture of my cock.

cya

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[quote]adarqui wrote:
overrated

if i had to pick between these two routines:

one:

  • squat
  • barbell lunge
  • ghr
  • reverse hyper

two:

  • squat
  • barbell lunge
  • leg curl
  • reverse hyper

i’d go with routine two…

ghr bench is a nice tool but it’s nothing special… poor man’s ghr bench (sorinex) is 100x harder so not many people can do that… i’d rather hit the hamstrings purely as a flexor with leg curls & then hit them as hip extensors in squat/barbell lunge/reverse hyper…

ghr bench is overhyped IMO.

peace

I have to agree with Ard here and say that the poor man’s GHR, nordic leg curl, russian leg curl, is much more precise in its stimulus of the hamstrings as a hip extensor / knee flexor. One can’t call on the low back to whip the resistance and cheat like crazy. It’s the hardest thing in my gym practically.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[quote]adarqui wrote:

replace the microphone in your avitar with a picture of my cock.

cya

[/quote]

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[quote]adarqui wrote:

replace the microphone in your avitar with a picture of my cock.

cya

[/quote]

That’s cute. No ability to back up your “opinions.”

Tell you what tough guy, I use my teeth so probably wouldn’t turn out for you quite the way you fantasized, bottom boy.

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[quote]ku2u wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

[/quote]

Hey Asshat. Way to back up your litle homoerotic buddy.

He can’t even view a picture of a male vocalist without thinking about getting his dick sucked.

You guys should hook up. You can be his topper.

Fuckers. Get lost. There’s plenty of forums for “guys” like you.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
ku2u wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hey Asshat. Way to back up your litle homoerotic buddy.

He can’t even view a picture of a male vocalist without thinking about getting his dick sucked.

You guys should hook up. You can be his topper.

Fuckers. Get lost. There’s plenty of forums for “guys” like you.[/quote]

ok so lets review:

  1. i say i like leg curls over ghr’s because of: specificity, isolating knee flexion, dorsiflexing during the concentric, quicker hamstring hypertrophy… then i mention using barbell lunges/stepups/squats to hit hip extension.

  2. you say: YOU ARE A LAMER THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY RUSSIANS TO HELP WHITE GUYS BEAT BLACK GUYS IN SPRINTINGS.

  3. i then back up my point

  4. you then say: BUILD A TIME MACHINE

  5. i then back up my point

  6. you then say: GO HOME TO YOUR MOMMY FOR PB & J

  7. i then say: suck my dick

  8. ku2u laughs at me telling you to suck my dick

  9. your douchebaggery then escalates to epic levels.

your ability to debate is very impressive.

all this because i prefer leg curls over a crappy glute ham bench… which has been marketed to death to make people think its some kind of magical speed machine.

WANNA DEVELOP SOME SICK SPEED?

TURN UP THE VOLUME ON THE PANTERA CD AND THROW SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS OVER YOUR NECK AND DO GHR’S… DON’T USE A PLATE OR DUMBELLS KOZ YOU’LL JUST LOOK LIKE A SISSY… RAMPAGE JACKSON DOESN’T WEAR A FUCKING PLATE AROUND HIS NECK, HE WEARS SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS… (which you can buy at our site for only 1,000$).

arGGHhhhhhhhhhhhh!@$@!$!@$!@

sorry folks.

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[quote]adarqui wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
ku2u wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hey Asshat. Way to back up your litle homoerotic buddy.

He can’t even view a picture of a male vocalist without thinking about getting his dick sucked.

You guys should hook up. You can be his topper.

Fuckers. Get lost. There’s plenty of forums for “guys” like you.

ok so lets review:

  1. i say i like leg curls over ghr’s because of: specificity, isolating knee flexion, dorsiflexing during the concentric, quicker hamstring hypertrophy… then i mention using barbell lunges/stepups/squats to hit hip extension.

  2. you say: YOU ARE A LAMER THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY RUSSIANS TO HELP WHITE GUYS BEAT BLACK GUYS IN SPRINTINGS.

  3. i then back up my point

  4. you then say: BUILD A TIME MACHINE

  5. i then back up my point

  6. you then say: GO HOME TO YOUR MOMMY FOR PB & J

  7. i then say: suck my dick

  8. ku2u laughs at me telling you to suck my dick

  9. your douchebaggery then escalates to epic levels.

your ability to debate is very impressive.

all this because i prefer leg curls over a crappy glute ham bench… which has been marketed to death to make people think its some kind of magical speed machine.

WANNA DEVELOP SOME SICK SPEED?

TURN UP THE VOLUME ON THE PANTERA CD AND THROW SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS OVER YOUR NECK AND DO GHR’S… DON’T USE A PLATE OR DUMBELLS KOZ YOU’LL JUST LOOK LIKE A SISSY… RAMPAGE JACKSON DOESN’T WEAR A FUCKING PLATE AROUND HIS NECK, HE WEARS SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS… (which you can buy at our site for only 1,000$).

arGGHhhhhhhhhhhhh!@$@!$!@$!@

sorry folks.[/quote]

Natural Glute Ham raises are much more difficult than the machine GHR.
This is because the fulcrum point is at the knees, instead of the hips/thighs, so the lever arm is much longer and this puts a much larger stress on your hamstrings.
You should try them.

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[quote]adarqui wrote:
apwsearch wrote:
ku2u wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hey Asshat. Way to back up your litle homoerotic buddy.

He can’t even view a picture of a male vocalist without thinking about getting his dick sucked.

You guys should hook up. You can be his topper.

Fuckers. Get lost. There’s plenty of forums for “guys” like you.

ok so lets review:

  1. i say i like leg curls over ghr’s because of: specificity, isolating knee flexion, dorsiflexing during the concentric, quicker hamstring hypertrophy… then i mention using barbell lunges/stepups/squats to hit hip extension.

  2. you say: YOU ARE A LAMER THEY WERE DEVELOPED BY RUSSIANS TO HELP WHITE GUYS BEAT BLACK GUYS IN SPRINTINGS.

  3. i then back up my point

  4. you then say: BUILD A TIME MACHINE

  5. i then back up my point

  6. you then say: GO HOME TO YOUR MOMMY FOR PB & J

  7. i then say: suck my dick

  8. ku2u laughs at me telling you to suck my dick

  9. your douchebaggery then escalates to epic levels.

your ability to debate is very impressive.

all this because i prefer leg curls over a crappy glute ham bench… which has been marketed to death to make people think its some kind of magical speed machine.

WANNA DEVELOP SOME SICK SPEED?

TURN UP THE VOLUME ON THE PANTERA CD AND THROW SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS OVER YOUR NECK AND DO GHR’S… DON’T USE A PLATE OR DUMBELLS KOZ YOU’LL JUST LOOK LIKE A SISSY… RAMPAGE JACKSON DOESN’T WEAR A FUCKING PLATE AROUND HIS NECK, HE WEARS SOME MOTHERFUCKING CHAINS… (which you can buy at our site for only 1,000$).

arGGHhhhhhhhhhhhh!@$@!$!@$!@

sorry folks.[/quote]

Change your screen name to Liberache.

You are a total fuckstick.

Buh bye.

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BTW, it’s cute that you have the “back” of your little buddy.

Just try not to intoduce him into gerbil Olympics before he’s ready.

You might really hurt him.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
BTW, it’s cute that you have the “back” of your little buddy.

Just try not to intoduce him into gerbil Olympics before he’s ready.

You might really hurt him.[/quote]

i don’t even know who ku2u is… anyway

you’ve totally derailed his thread and turned it into a complete pile of shit… great job.

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[quote]adarqui wrote:

i don’t even know who ku2u is… anyway

you’ve totally derailed his thread and turned it into a complete pile of shit… great job.[/quote]

Oh no.

Let’s review.

You came up with a stupid point of view.

I made you look stupid.

You made a homo erotic comment on my avatar. I responded.

Your little bottom boy tried to back you up. I pointed out that you were made for each other and should spend time in gratifying sexual embrace most of us can only dream of.

You wiped the corners of you mouth, tasting his semen, and chose to continue on with your pointless bullshit.

Tell you what, post Poliquin’s phone number so I can call him.

I will tell him you said to call.

Should be a great conversation.

You little limp wristed gerbil harboring, habitrail owning, waste of heterosexual existence.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
adarqui wrote:

i don’t even know who ku2u is… anyway

you’ve totally derailed his thread and turned it into a complete pile of shit… great job.

Oh no.

Let’s review.

You came up with a stupid point of view.

I made you look stupid.

You made a homo erotic comment on my avatar. I responded.

Your little bottom boy tried to back you up. I pointed out that you were made for each other and should spend time in gratifying sexual embrace most of us can only dream of.

You wiped the corners of you mouth, tasting his semen, and chose to continue on with your pointless bullshit.

Tell you what, post Poliquin’s phone number so I can call him.

I will tell him you said to call.

Should be a great conversation.

You little limp wristed gerbil harboring, habitrail owning, waste of heterosexual existence.[/quote]

wow you have issues… did you just get bukake’d?

btw… you have yet to make one good point about ghr’s, other than they were designed by russians (omg) for sprinters.

here is Poliquin’s number: 847-881-2840

have fun.

edit: im pretty sure the GHR is losing fans because you support it… within a few weeks elitefts will stop manufacturing them.

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ok this has obviously gone well past productive, but APWSEARCH and ADAQUOI, how long have you both used the GHR intellegently in your own workouts to best determine its productivity via personal experience?