[quote]RonSwanson wrote:
I’m turning twenty in a few days and I have yet to kiss a girl. Being 5’6 doesn’t help my situation.
On a positive note, I’m starting to come to terms with the fact that I will probably die alone. So yeah, glad I could share.[/quote]
Dude you are only 20 you hvent been through enough shit yet.. Stop being a pussy grow some nuts and a ball fro and go slay some ass.. At 20 they practically give it away just borrow your old brothers car get some booze a phat sack and throw a party at someones house. Invite 20-30 chix if 10 show up you and your bros get them hammerd as shit.. Take down the wounded gazzel… This will pretty much work till you are 25. Always wear a condom uless you like kids or aids..
your welcome[/quote]
The OP has been dead for over a month now.
you’re welcome[/quote]
4 real this guys dead? How do you know? He didnt off himself over a girl did he?
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Oh no I’m sure he’s not really dead. His last post was in this thread in early July though, so I was just joking that given the circumstances in the thread maybe he just decided to go for a long walk off a short pier.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Chicks probably don’t want to kiss you because you sound pathetic… [/quote]
I know right. How pathetic to be concerned about finding and attracting a caring, good woman and perhaps (gasp) finding love in this increasingly hostile, uncaring, dog-eat-dog, hyperindividualistic world, not to mention the increase in “career women” who marry jobs instead of men and pawn off their children, pre-sexualized whorish teenagers, and an infantile fascination with “bad boys” or any other abnormalities in existence today that make it hard for a “normal”, “regular” guy these days.
Thank goodness I found a good woman. I strongly sympathize with this guy as in this world today I believe good women are hard to come by and it’s harder for people like him to attract women when in the past, say 50 years ago, it was a whole different ball game.
OP is NOT pathetic. There’s not a lot of things that make a man angrier than not having company of a woman–for real.
OP is NOT pathetic. There’s not a lot of things that make a man angrier than not having company of a woman–for real.
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Does not have to make him angry.
Its enough if it makes him apathetic towards society.
Unlike women, we dont need society.
We build it, exactly as much as we deem necessary.
How much society would you build for some bad boy left overs?
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I don’t understand your question: How much society would I build for bad boy leftovers?
In theory, nothing HAS TO make us angry, but they reasonably DO! Theoretically, poverty doesn’t have to make one angry, but it does. Injustice doesn’t have to make us angry, but it does. And reasonably so. Just as it’s reasonable for lack of female company to make one apathetic and/or angry. Having a woman or man in one’s life adds a whole lot to it, unless one is made of stone or is one those few who doesn’t need company of the opposite sex, a rarity.
Most so-called “bad boys” are actually not “bad” at all but actually are losers or immoral people or infantile or in the best case, just have a type of style or personality that is referred to as “bad” (eg, “sleeve” of tattoos", gregarious, has a motorcycle).
OP is NOT pathetic. There’s not a lot of things that make a man angrier than not having company of a woman–for real.
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Does not have to make him angry.
Its enough if it makes him apathetic towards society.
Unlike women, we dont need society.
We build it, exactly as much as we deem necessary.
How much society would you build for some bad boy left overs?
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I don’t understand your question: How much society would I build for bad boy leftovers?
In theory, nothing HAS TO make us angry, but they reasonably DO! Theoretically, poverty doesn’t have to make one angry, but it does. Injustice doesn’t have to make us angry, but it does. And reasonably so. Just as it’s reasonable for lack of female company to make one apathetic and/or angry. Having a woman or man in one’s life adds a whole lot to it, unless one is made of stone or is one those few who doesn’t need company of the opposite sex, a rarity.
Most so-called “bad boys” are actually not “bad” at all but actually are losers or immoral people or infantile or in the best case, just have a type of style or personality that is referred to as “bad” (eg, “sleeve” of tattoos", gregarious, has a motorcycle).
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Let me clarify that.
How hard would you be willing to work, how much surplus would you be willing to produce, if chances are this will win you an ex party girl with lots of experience with the bad boy cocksas, given that she could end that arrangement at any second, taking you to the cleaners?
Does that not inspire you to be all you can be !?!
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
orion, and anyone else who cares to answer
what do you think about internet dating?
[/quote]
It is a market where even thoroughly average women get showered with tons of beta validation by default.
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I have seen this.
would say there is more competition or less competition? are these women fundamentally different or is it the same shit as IRL?
I’m not giving up on women, but fuck I have had some bad luck this year. Last year I felt like I could do no wrong. I’m sick of meeting these girls with emotional problems.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
orion, and anyone else who cares to answer
what do you think about internet dating?
[/quote]
It is a market where even thoroughly average women get showered with tons of beta validation by default.
[/quote]
I have seen this.
would say there is more competition or less competition? are these women fundamentally different or is it the same shit as IRL?[/quote]
Some random thoughts:
They will deem you a loser because you are on there in the first place.
Them, being there too, will cause no cognitive dissonance whatsoever.
More competition due to spamming betas.
Which means, if you want to make a splash, you dont ring, you kick in their front doors.
Offend them somewhat at the earliest opportunity.
Take somethig from her profile and tease the shit out of her.
Your profile?
Be demanding.
Be downright narcissistic…
They are a princess, in need of spoiling?
You are a warlord, accustomed to getting your dick sucked as a matter of course.
You think that all of this is downright ridiculous?
How hard would you be willing to work, how much surplus would you be willing to produce, if chances are this will win you an ex party girl with lots of experience with the bad boy cocksas, given that she could end that arrangement at any second, taking you to the cleaners? [/quote]
Absolutely none. My woman isn’t an ex-party girl and if I were single, I’d stay away from ex- or current party girls because they were and are a bad fit for me.
Woman who I’ve attracted simply liked me for whatever reason. They were physically attracted, found me to be funny and entertaining, smart, or whatever. Some just liked me because I was and am a (gasp) “nice guy”. (Granted I wasn’t always nice and was often a raging dickhead on these boards in years past and I’ve apologized numerous times for this.)
I get what you’re saying, but I can’t remember or don’t know if I got a woman because I was trying to be all I can be. After, I’m a fairly ordinary, middle-class guy. I used to suffer from terrible self-esteem but I think it’s still fair to say that I’m not gifted, not strikingly good looking (though more than enough people have called me “good looking” or “cute” or whatever), not from any Ivy League education, and not from a powerful family.
Many men will attract women if they stay in their league and are realistic despite all sorts of talk of the contrary. Examples: “Who’s to say an ugly guy can’t get a hot chic?” “Who’s to say a poor guy can’t get a rich woman?” Yes, it can happen, but one shouldn’t hold one’s breath.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
orion, and anyone else who cares to answer
what do you think about internet dating?
[/quote]
It is a market where even thoroughly average women get showered with tons of beta validation by default.
[/quote]
I have seen this.
would say there is more competition or less competition? are these women fundamentally different or is it the same shit as IRL?[/quote]
Some random thoughts:
They will deem you a loser because you are on there in the first place.
Them, being there too, will cause no cognitive dissonance whatsoever.
More competition due to spamming betas.
Which means, if you want to make a splash, you dont ring, you kick in their front doors.
Offend them somewhat at the earliest opportunity.
Take somethig from her profile and tease the shit out of her.
Your profile?
Be demanding.
Be downright narcissistic…
They are a princess, in need of spoiling?
You are a warlord, accustomed to getting your dick sucked as a matter of course.
You think that all of this is downright ridiculous?
I tend to agree.
Just saying, that will most likely get you laid. [/quote]
good info. I really appreciate you answering.
LOL this sounds sadly true. maybe these women ARE only good for one thing.
[quote]CircaThursday wrote:
orion, and anyone else who cares to answer
what do you think about internet dating?
[/quote]
It is a market where even thoroughly average women get showered with tons of beta validation by default.
[/quote]
I have seen this.
would say there is more competition or less competition? are these women fundamentally different or is it the same shit as IRL?[/quote]
Some random thoughts:
They will deem you a loser because you are on there in the first place.
Them, being there too, will cause no cognitive dissonance whatsoever.
More competition due to spamming betas.
Which means, if you want to make a splash, you dont ring, you kick in their front doors.
Offend them somewhat at the earliest opportunity.
Take somethig from her profile and tease the shit out of her.
Your profile?
Be demanding.
Be downright narcissistic…
They are a princess, in need of spoiling?
You are a warlord, accustomed to getting your dick sucked as a matter of course.
You think that all of this is downright ridiculous?
I tend to agree.
Just saying, that will most likely get you laid. [/quote]
good info. I really appreciate you answering.
LOL this sounds sadly true. maybe these women ARE only good for one thing.
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You can alway take the approach some of my friends and I who found our fiances and wives on the net: write a profile about yourself and be yourself when you meet a date/potential partner. It worked for us, and we aren’t warlords getting head from a new woman every night.
How hard would you be willing to work, how much surplus would you be willing to produce, if chances are this will win you an ex party girl with lots of experience with the bad boy cocksas, given that she could end that arrangement at any second, taking you to the cleaners? [/quote]
Absolutely none. My woman isn’t an ex-party girl and if I were single, I’d stay away from ex- or current party girls because they were and are a bad fit for me.
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Well, then you know why some guys just say fuck this.
If, realistically, you have a 50/50 chance of ending up with that, why take the risk at all?
True, some might get lucky, but on a societal level, even a significant minority of men realistically assessing their chances can be a major problem.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, find a good one.
So, after all the good ones have been found, the men who did not or cannot find one will do what?
Because, if even 15-20% of all men opt out, thats enough for the ship to sink.
In related news up to 50% of all Japanese men identify as herbivores, which I understand to be clever untranslatable pun.
How hard would you be willing to work, how much surplus would you be willing to produce, if chances are this will win you an ex party girl with lots of experience with the bad boy cocksas, given that she could end that arrangement at any second, taking you to the cleaners? [/quote]
Absolutely none. My woman isn’t an ex-party girl and if I were single, I’d stay away from ex- or current party girls because they were and are a bad fit for me.
Woman who I’ve attracted simply liked me for whatever reason. They were physically attracted, found me to be funny and entertaining, smart, or whatever. Some just liked me because I was and am a (gasp) “nice guy”. (Granted I wasn’t always nice and was often a raging dickhead on these boards in years past and I’ve apologized numerous times for this.)
I get what you’re saying, but I can’t remember or don’t know if I got a woman because I was trying to be all I can be. After, I’m a fairly ordinary, middle-class guy. I used to suffer from terrible self-esteem but I think it’s still fair to say that I’m not gifted, not strikingly good looking (though more than enough people have called me “good looking” or “cute” or whatever), not from any Ivy League education, and not from a powerful family.
Many men will attract women if they stay in their league and are realistic despite all sorts of talk of the contrary. Examples: “Who’s to say an ugly guy can’t get a hot chic?” “Who’s to say a poor guy can’t get a rich woman?” Yes, it can happen, but one shouldn’t hold one’s breath. [/quote]
Agreed with all of this. And the women we seem to attract seem to be close the same at least the not a party girl type deal.
From here on, I say this: everything I say here is not intended for flaming or fighting; I’m talking about the subject and have no problem with you. Just want to make this clear when I post with opposing views or information. Thanks!
[quote]orion wrote:
Well, then you know why some guys just say fuck this. [/quote]
Many men these days are saying “fuck this” because the dating and marriage scene is an utter nightmare for a variety of reasons:
“Regular” white men are portrayed in films, advertisements, and shows as clumsy, unfashionable, stupid, bigoted, androgynous, wimpy, and dull. And in this day and age, the boob-tube dictates EVERYTHING for impressionable women, which is MANY of them! This is said not to antagonize anyone of any race on this board, but it is as I and many others see it because it’s true, and it can be backed up with countless examples in shows, advertisements, and films. If a white guy is deemed sexy, he is usually misogynistic, smooth talking, ultra-rich, or VERY good looking.
Women are pre-sexualized and have chosen to opt for the current slut culture in which they behave as whores and go for the so-called “bad boy” because that’s the fashionable thing to do because TV said so.
Thanks to enough liberal, feminist indoctrination (especially from TV, with anti-male shows such as The View and Oprah), men are often seen now as optional additions to a woman’s life and that women “don’t need” a man and that it’s time for women to strike back because for years the oppressive and sexist White men kept them “barefoot and pregnant” (as if this is a bad thing, to be pregnant and reproduce and raise children).
Thanks to corporate pigs, manufacturing and other manly jobs have gone offshore for exploitative, slave laborers from all over the world, leaving many men directionless and unemployed. In addition, there has been an explosion of jobs suitable for women, particularly because of digital technology, such as public relations, marketing, advertising, journalism, and so on. Go to any of these trendy firms, and you’ll see they are swarming with women. This also creates a setting in which men are no longer seen as a bread winner and optional additions to women’s lives.
A new trend (of course promoted by the media) is for men to be less manly; that is they should be less “discriminative”, less “judgmental”, and less confrontational. Cartoons of the past portrayed characters beating the living shit out of, shooting, and stabbing each other, whereas today, especially on Disney, it is portrayed that a young man or woman should give a shit about every Tom, Dick, and Harry so long as they are breathing, whether they are compatriot or stranger.
Porn is more accessible than ever, and porn gives many men an unrealistic view of what a real woman is like. And the porn accessible now is in many cases, FUCKING GROSS! Men should focus on getting a woman, not jerking off to porn for hours. Don’t get me wrong, some porn watching is understandable and I particularly liked some of the porn films from the '80s and early '90s in which regular sex was shown and the women were not surgically altered to the degree they are now.
Many young men are socially inept, thanks to addictive online forums (like this one).
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If, realistically, you have a 50/50 chance of ending up with that, why take the risk at all? [/quote]
What risk? Risk of asking a woman out and getting rejected? I don’t get it.
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True, some might get lucky, but on a societal level, even a significant minority of men realistically assessing their chances can be a major problem. [/quote]
As I said, the dating scene is a nightmare.
[quote]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, find a good one. [/quote]
This is the aim of well-adjusted men who don’t want bad ones–female or male–in their lives.
[quote]
So, after all the good ones have been found, the men who did not or cannot find one will do what? [/quote]
Be assed out! As I said, the scene is a wreck and it’s a real problem, I believe, leaving many depressed, lonely, disaffected men in its wake.
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Because, if even 15-20% of all men opt out, thats enough for the ship to sink. [/quote]
Right, hence some countries now have a negative birthrate, particularly European/white birthrates.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
From here on, I say this: everything I say here is not intended for flaming or fighting; I’m talking about the subject and have no problem with you. Just want to make this clear when I post with opposing views or information. Thanks!
[quote]orion wrote:
Well, then you know why some guys just say fuck this. [/quote]
Many men these days are saying “fuck this” because the dating and marriage scene is an utter nightmare for a variety of reasons:
“Regular” white men are portrayed in films, advertisements, and shows as clumsy, unfashionable, stupid, bigoted, androgynous, wimpy, and dull. And in this day and age, the boob-tube dictates EVERYTHING for impressionable women, which is MANY of them! This is said not to antagonize anyone of any race on this board, but it is as I and many others see it because it’s true, and it can be backed up with countless examples in shows, advertisements, and films. If a white guy is deemed sexy, he is usually misogynistic, smooth talking, ultra-rich, or VERY good looking.
Women are pre-sexualized and have chosen to opt for the current slut culture in which they behave as whores and go for the so-called “bad boy” because that’s the fashionable thing to do because TV said so.
Thanks to enough liberal, feminist indoctrination (especially from TV, with anti-male shows such as The View and Oprah), men are often seen now as optional additions to a woman’s life and that women “don’t need” a man and that it’s time for women to strike back because for years the oppressive and sexist White men kept them “barefoot and pregnant” (as if this is a bad thing, to be pregnant and reproduce and raise children).
Thanks to corporate pigs, manufacturing and other manly jobs have gone offshore for exploitative, slave laborers from all over the world, leaving many men directionless and unemployed. In addition, there has been an explosion of jobs suitable for women, particularly because of digital technology, such as public relations, marketing, advertising, journalism, and so on. Go to any of these trendy firms, and you’ll see they are swarming with women. This also creates a setting in which men are no longer seen as a bread winner and optional additions to women’s lives.
A new trend (of course promoted by the media) is for men to be less manly; that is they should be less “discriminative”, less “judgmental”, and less confrontational. Cartoons of the past portrayed characters beating the living shit out of, shooting, and stabbing each other, whereas today, especially on Disney, it is portrayed that a young man or woman should give a shit about every Tom, Dick, and Harry so long as they are breathing, whether they are compatriot or stranger.
Porn is more accessible than ever, and porn gives many men an unrealistic view of what a real woman is like. And the porn accessible now is in many cases, FUCKING GROSS! Men should focus on getting a woman, not jerking off to porn for hours. Don’t get me wrong, some porn watching is understandable and I particularly liked some of the porn films from the '80s and early '90s in which regular sex was shown and the women were not surgically altered to the degree they are now.
Many young men are socially inept, thanks to addictive online forums (like this one).
[quote]
If, realistically, you have a 50/50 chance of ending up with that, why take the risk at all? [/quote]
What risk? Risk of asking a woman out and getting rejected? I don’t get it.
[quote]
True, some might get lucky, but on a societal level, even a significant minority of men realistically assessing their chances can be a major problem. [/quote]
As I said, the dating scene is a nightmare.
[quote]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, find a good one. [/quote]
This is the aim of well-adjusted men who don’t want bad ones–female or male–in their lives.
[quote]
So, after all the good ones have been found, the men who did not or cannot find one will do what? [/quote]
Be assed out! As I said, the scene is a wreck and it’s a real problem, I believe, leaving many depressed, lonely, disaffected men in its wake.
Well, first, you can call me a poophead all day long…
Then, hey, you see he perfect storm just fine, you described it very well.
As for the last part (Japan):
They know what they do to their society.
They see it perfectly well.
But, given the raw deal they are offered, they simply choose to let the ship sink.
This goes back to, there is only so much society which we want there to be.
Those herbivores dont need much, hence, they are downsizing, not only their lifes, but all of Japan with it.
This is what it looks like when men opt out.
Society crumbles, and, even though men are very susceptible to shamimng tactics (man up!, etc) they tend to wake up, after a ridiculous long time I might add, when all life has in store for them is the life of Boxer, of The Animal Farm fame.
15-20% saying no.
In times of tight knit budgets, that is all that it takes.
I ask myself all the time if my generation can really be that much different from every other generation. I then go full circle, from yes, to no that’s just the “you’re special” kicking in, and back to yes because it just is.
As I drove home from school last night at about 9:00, I saw an insane amount of girls in line for the atm and the shuttle who were dressed for the club. All I thought to myself was that I never want anything to do with any of those girls.
I have “gone my own way” and I don’t care if the societal ship sinks because its a useless ship that runs on deception and bad vodka.
I try everyday to look at the situation positively, but man, that is tough.