Giving Up on Women

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

Interesting…I wonder if this is related to what happens to hair during sex? Or to my hair, anyway. It very often winds up in my face, and afterwards it’s common for my boyfriend to push it away from my eyes. As a result, when my hair looks like that for other reasons, it turns him on. I wonder if hair in eyes is like lipstick and blush in that they’re suggestive of arousal?[/quote]

I think we just think about shit way too much sometimes.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

csulll - That’s harsh. I’m not sure you can take credit for what happened there. Some people are just going to do what they are going to do.

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Oh yes, he can…

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This has been bothering me. Riddle me this, guys.

You have a little sister who’s boyfriend beats the crap out of her.

We all know some low-self esteem women with daddy issues will attract controlling and abusive men.

So, are you going to tell her it’s her fault, and she deserves it? I have a feeling your response would be more nuanced than that, and you’d be more likely to want to beat the hell out of the man here.

If csullli put his wife on a pedestal or snowflaked her (to use your terms), he STILL didn’t deserve to be treated like he was less than nothing. BTW, some women will actually know a good man when they see one. And there are narcissists and users in this world who will repeatedly take advantage or abuse anybody they come in contact with.

I’m not saying that your interactions with someone can’t change behavior. Just that it’s a little skewed to take full responsibility, or to assume that ALL women would cheat on a man who treats them well, and if they do, it’s his fault.

I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
You could try flashing him.

Always got my attention

Has anyone read “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” by Dr Laura Schlessinger?

[quote]theBeth wrote:
Has anyone read “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” by Dr Laura Schlessinger?[/quote]

Yes, I read it when it came out. That’s been a few years now. I’m not always a big Dr. Laura fan, but that book is spot on about a lot of things.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

Push, my friend, I’m afraid your biased by your very specific life experience. How do you reconcile my points about the crime rate and balanced budget of Utah? Those aren’t specific to my experience or yours.[/quote]

We all carry biases from our life experiences. So what?

And for the record, long, long before the “specific” one that you mentioned I would’ve posted the exact same thing. It has nothing to do with it.

As far as the balanced budget of Utah, WTF does that have to do with the topic at hand?

Of course a generally rural state like Utah will have relatively low crime rates but take a closer look at sexual crime in Utah:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2488197/posts

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695261701/Secret-shame-Utahs-sex-offenders-and-their-victims.html?pg=all

Montana’s crime rates are even lower than Utah’s with a vastly smaller Mormon population. Does that correlation mean non-Mormons produce less criminals? Not necessarily. Fact is the predominant religion in an area has little to do with crime.[/quote]

My wife is actually from Montana and I love Montana (considering moving there right now). Here’s the deal for me, I am Mormon, I was raised Mormon but every Mormon has to decide at some point in their life if their faith is right or not. I have a lot of friends that grew up just like me that have chosen other paths. Free Agency is at the core of our beliefs and everyone is free to choose as they please. It seems like you’ve had bad experiences with Mormons and I’m sorry about that. I don’t claim to be perfect nor do I claim that any other member is perfect. We all have our faults and weaknesses. We’re taught to treat everyone with love and respect. If a member doesn’t than that’s at an INDIVIDUAL problem. We’re taught not to judge others, if someone judges others than again that INDIVIDUAL is choosing to do so. We’re taught to serve others, taught to be morally clean, taught to respect our bodies, taught to pray, to read our scriptures, etc… etc… if an INDIVIDUAL member doesn’t do one or any of these things then again that’s an INDIVIDUAL person choosing to exercise their free agency. It’s just like you INDIVIDUALLY choosing to not like Mormon(s) for whatever reason.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

csulll - That’s harsh. I’m not sure you can take credit for what happened there. Some people are just going to do what they are going to do.

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Oh yes, he can…

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This has been bothering me. Riddle me this, guys.

You have a little sister who’s boyfriend beats the crap out of her.

We all know some low-self esteem women with daddy issues will attract controlling and abusive men.

So, are you going to tell her it’s her fault, and she deserves it? I have a feeling your response would be more nuanced than that, and you’d be more likely to want to beat the hell out of the man here.

If csullli put his wife on a pedestal or snowflaked her (to use your terms), he STILL didn’t deserve to be treated like he was less than nothing. BTW, some women will actually know a good man when they see one. And there are narcissists and users in this world who will repeatedly take advantage or abuse anybody they come in contact with.

I’m not saying that your interactions with someone can’t change behavior. Just that it’s a little skewed to take full responsibility, or to assume that ALL women would cheat on a man who treats them well, and if they do, it’s his fault. [/quote]

“Deserve” is such a loaded term.

I dont think that anyone “deserves” being fucked over, but there are cases where he should have known better.

I would tell her to get the hell out and if she does not thats on her.

Now he might fall down a flight of stairs, but only because some stairs are vindictive cunts who should know better.

Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.

Some women just want to get clobbered.

As with Csulli, thats different.

If you show behavior for too long that reeks of weakness you will bring out the worst in most people, especially women you are in a relationship with.

Now what the “worst” is differs from person to person, but how would you know beforehand?

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]

Bold, decisive action.

I am very proud of you.

Grrrrr…

[quote]orion wrote:
As with Csulli, thats different.

If you show behavior for too long that reeks of weakness you will bring out the worst in most people, especially women you are in a relationship with.

Now what the “worst” is differs from person to person, but how would you know beforehand?
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I sure learned a hellofa lot.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
As with Csulli, thats different.

If you show behavior for too long that reeks of weakness you will bring out the worst in most people, especially women you are in a relationship with.

Now what the “worst” is differs from person to person, but how would you know beforehand?
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I sure learned a hellofa lot.[/quote]

And so young…

It was a blessing in disguise and I am not kidding either…

Is orion your sensei now, Chris?

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Is orion your sensei now, Chris?[/quote]

I am nobodies sensei.

I am the bad apple that serves as a warning to others.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Is orion your sensei now, Chris?[/quote]

I am nobodies sensei.

I am the bad apple that serves as a warning to others.

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Well, keep your worms to yourself. Gross.

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]

or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.

don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.

Bam!

[quote]theBeth wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]

or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.

don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.

Bam![/quote]

I wished you lived here so you could be my wing woman/mentor…

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Is orion your sensei now, Chris?[/quote]

I am nobodies sensei.

I am the bad apple that serves as a warning to others.

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Well, keep your worms to yourself. Gross.[/quote]

Hi thar!

Damn OP you are going to Harvard great Job

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

Damn OP you are going to Harvard great Job[/quote]
LOL an interesting mom