Giving Up on Women

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[quote]Nman wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Nman wrote:
This is a really sad discussion. I don’t usually respond because I don’t spend a lot of times on forums, i usually read the articles and get back to work but this thread name caught my attention and I wanted to see what it was about. I didn’t read it all but I feel like I read enough and I feel like I should give my two cents. A few things, I was a virgin until I got married and was glad. I’m a religious person and was taught about sexual purity and know that it’s a true doctrine. I have two little girls and I’m scared to death of them finding guys like you. Guys that don’t care about who my daughters are, guys that think my daughters are just a good time and have no respect for them. It’s sad! It’s no wonder that the Family in the US is breaking down and the consequences of that are the real problems behind the issues in our country. Men aren’t men anymore. Sure everyone on this site lifts and talks big but how many would give up everything for their wife? How many men selflessly put their wives needs/wants in front of their own? How many men are fully committed to their wives/marriages? Look at the divorce stats and you’ll see not many. Being a man to me means being fully committed to your wife, to your kids and to marriage. There are reasons for a divorce (not saying there isn’t) but the current trend is disturbing and shows that men and women aren’t as dedicated to each other as they could/should be. Whenever I have issues in my marriage the best solution is to turn away from my wants and my needs and to put my wife’s wants/needs above my own. Women are unique and special and need to be treated as such! [/quote]
Post more or read more, you may find you are not alone on these boards.[/quote]

Yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah.

“Women are unique and special”- All of them, nice trick if you can pull it off, he is snowflaking for them, mwua…

“Men are not comitted”- Unfortunately we will never know, because they file the overwhelming majority of divorces.

“How many men selflessly put their wives needs/wants in front of their own? …Whenever I have issues in my marriage the best solution is to turn away from my wants and my needs and to put my wife’s wants/needs above my own”

Whats in it for me?

Or has the definition of “real man” been changed to freaking idiot?

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Lol, you still cant get it can you?

If you never sacrifice yourself for someone no one is going to reciprocate, period, end of story, yes that takes risk. Some of us choose well and keep it going.

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Lol, you did not read what he wrote did you?

If he always gives in, there is no reciprocating.

There cannot be.

It is logically impossible.[/quote]

No sure where I mentioned I give in. Marriage is a team sport and takes both sides working for a common goal. If an issue arises in our marriage then we talk about it and work it out. I was merely pointing out that from my point of view after something comes up in a marriage that we work through to keep it going the way we want it (as happy as possible) it’s best to turn outward rather than inward. And it does bug me when guys refer to women in a demeaning way. And from a lot of the posts I read about hooking up with this girl and that girls just to appease appetites or just for the heck of it or just to say this or that. That to me isn’t cool. Women mean a lot more to me than that. If they don’t to others than that’s fine, I can’t force what I feel or believe on anyone but I can state my opinion just like you can.
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Look, if that whole Christian purity and waiting for marriage with sex and whatnot worked for you I am happy for you.

I also envy you and I think that a society that married both men and women off relatively young had great advantages for pretty much all off society at the expense of young women and the 10-20 % of the most attractive men.

However, I have no problem if you idealize your wife if you have a religious and social support structure that makes that possible for you.

However, even a quick glance in your respective Holy Book, assuming something even remotely Abrahamitic, should point to a picture of women closer to mine than yours.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

See, the funny thing is I feel like I mostly meet nice guys, rarely an asshole, and don’t generally have to worry that they respect me. Why wouldn’t they? I’m smart and nice and healthy and secure. I’m more concerned about meeting someone equally as smart and nice and healthy and secure, so I can respect him!

As for working HARD for his respect, no. I’m not looking for a guy so fucked up and issued that I have to work HARD to get to what should be a standard starting point. If he’s working too hard for my respect I’ll imagine he’s overcompensating for something.

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As for working HARD for his respect, yes.

The automatic assumption is gone and for good reason.

So you “like” him, do you?

OK.

One word is worth a thousand pictures.[/quote]

Almost missed this. I wish they’d stop doing the delay on your posts.

Liking him, yeah. I’ve been crazy about him since the night we met. I know he feels the same way about me.

I’m hopeful, but trying to be realistic. Neither of us is perfect, and there’s a lot of strain.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

Yep. I responded.
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Hmm. Not finding anything except for the first “what’s happening” mail. Wanna re-send? Maybe the NSA won’t snag this one.

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Walkway you must jerk it like fucking 10 times a day with all that gear your on. And your god dam 230lbs. FUCKK

But you could prolly get laid anytime if you go to a club at closing -

Step 1: Say Hi to the girls leaving the club
step 2: ?!?!?!
Step 3: sex

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Walkway, don’t you think that you gotta start meeting more women now in your youth because as you get older most if not ALL women will have baggage.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Yep. I responded.
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Hmm. Not finding anything except for the first “what’s happening” mail. Wanna re-send? Maybe the NSA won’t snag this one. [/quote]

Now the entire internet is shutting down Push’s PMs, because as everyone knows he’s a dirty picture-sender.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
… hey bitch love those DSL’s your supporting can you suck a brother real quick I have build up sperm ready to go? [/quote]

I sure hope that took some thought, and isn’t something that you’ve used before!

Ha ha ha! Good stuff, D.[/quote]

Uh no of course not, I would never be so bold…

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

Yep. I responded.
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Hmm. Not finding anything except for the first “what’s happening” mail. Wanna re-send? Maybe the NSA won’t snag this one. [/quote]

Now the entire internet is shutting down Push’s PMs, because as everyone knows he’s a dirty picture-sender.[/quote]

LOL!

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[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
LoRez and Emily.

You are both going through some tough relationship stuff.

I think I speak for all of us when I say this.

Anytime you want to start up your own threads, we’ll be happy to give some unwanted advice that could mess you up forever.

That’s what Tfriends are for.
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Not sure about starting a thread at this point, but that is an awesome picture.

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There’s a FINE, short hair chick who lives in the building that my apartment overlooks, so I see her fairly often, as far as seeing strangers goes. Thing is, it’s ONLY been when she’s leaving and I’m up in my apartment - I’ve never actually seen her face to face to talk to her!

But seriously, there’s something about a short haired chicks attitude, if she pulls it off well.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

Maybe I’m just from another generation. I love my home, but if we had to relocate for my husband’s work, I’d be packing. Home is where the people I love are, even if that is Nowhere, North Dakota. I’ve often told him that if he ever felt like he needed to make a change, I’d consider it an adventure and we’d go. I’m not that attached to my possessions. There would be no living apart. [/quote]

This doesn’t necessarily make you special but it does make you fantastic.[/quote]

Hey, I just realized I hadn’t said thank you, Push. Thank you.

I think this may be the strangest thread in Thistory.

Say you are going to be 20 and haven’t kissed a girl.

Unleash 27 pages of chaos.

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[quote]orion wrote:

I think your happy “medium” is the attempt to fulfil blue pill fantasies with red pill theories.

The danger in that is that you might succeed… for a while.

It is just an enormous amount of work, and for what, an illusion.

Fortunately this phenomenon has been described by Rollo, so there:

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“The trouble this presents is one of switching a man’s paradigm from blue pill to red pill. Many transitioning guys tell me how impossible it is to keep up the act that they believe a red pill awareness requires of them. They believe so because their operative mindset, the direction they think will work best for them, are still based on the rules and mental framework of their former blue pill existence.”

“They have only themselves to blame for allowing the speeding, red pill train they knew was coming to flatten them.”

Mmmm

Thankfully, I was never an uber beta she-male; simply too tolerant.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

But seriously, there’s something about a short haired chicks attitude, if she pulls it off well.[/quote]

I find shoulder length hair to be extremely attractive. It just gives the vibe that the woman is prime; not a teenager, but also not a middle aged lady.

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[quote]Kakarat wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

But seriously, there’s something about a short haired chicks attitude, if she pulls it off well.[/quote]

I find shoulder length hair to be extremely attractive. It just gives the vibe that the woman is prime; not a teenager, but also not a middle aged lady.[/quote]

There’s a lady I saw at the dog park the other day with a shoulder length A-line haircut… She looked about 30, so maybe that’s a popular thing among women that age. She instantly did it for me, too!

I think it has something to do with the fact that shorter hair (at least the kind of short hair I’m picturing) is easier to drape over one of her eyes, and if she can make the other eye look sexy as fuck, it’s game over. Eyes play a huge part in seduction, and I feel like having sex eyes, but with only one visible just implies the “I’m hiding something.” Which is hot.

Unless she’s hiding a dick.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Kakarat wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

But seriously, there’s something about a short haired chicks attitude, if she pulls it off well.[/quote]

I find shoulder length hair to be extremely attractive. It just gives the vibe that the woman is prime; not a teenager, but also not a middle aged lady.[/quote]

There’s a lady I saw at the dog park the other day with a shoulder length A-line haircut… She looked about 30, so maybe that’s a popular thing among women that age. She instantly did it for me, too!

I think it has something to do with the fact that shorter hair (at least the kind of short hair I’m picturing) is easier to drape over one of her eyes, and if she can make the other eye look sexy as fuck, it’s game over. Eyes play a huge part in seduction, and I feel like having sex eyes, but with only one visible just implies the “I’m hiding something.” Which is hot.

Unless she’s hiding a dick. [/quote]

The dog park, you sly devil.

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It’s been 2 minutes and I’m still laughing about the hiding a dick, well done.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

[quote]Kakarat wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

But seriously, there’s something about a short haired chicks attitude, if she pulls it off well.[/quote]

I find shoulder length hair to be extremely attractive. It just gives the vibe that the woman is prime; not a teenager, but also not a middle aged lady.[/quote]

There’s a lady I saw at the dog park the other day with a shoulder length A-line haircut… She looked about 30, so maybe that’s a popular thing among women that age. She instantly did it for me, too!

I think it has something to do with the fact that shorter hair (at least the kind of short hair I’m picturing) is easier to drape over one of her eyes, and if she can make the other eye look sexy as fuck, it’s game over. Eyes play a huge part in seduction, and I feel like having sex eyes, but with only one visible just implies the “I’m hiding something.” Which is hot.

Unless she’s hiding a dick. [/quote]

Interesting…I wonder if this is related to what happens to hair during sex? Or to my hair, anyway. It very often winds up in my face, and afterwards it’s common for my boyfriend to push it away from my eyes. As a result, when my hair looks like that for other reasons, it turns him on. I wonder if hair in eyes is like lipstick and blush in that they’re suggestive of arousal?