[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Damn OP you are going to Harvard great Job[/quote]
Thats a helicopter parent if I ever done saw it.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.[/quote]
Same here.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.[/quote]
Gotta be careful doing that if is doing Side Raises though. A chubby that you forget about can get pinched between the dumbbells and that shit is unpleasant.
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Wow, I’ve gained alot of respect for Mr. Walkway in this thread.
I share alot of his sentiment towards the subject matter. I think the world needs more guys like him who actually value the act of sex. So many guys are only after one thing, lower their standards drastically, and women are often forced to sell themselves on being sexy rather than smart or interesting to talk to. [/quote]
I did and still do to some degree.
However, getting bj’s from a guy for GH changes the dynamic.
[/quote]
This
And his complete lack of respect for women. [/quote]
See, I’m almost ok with that, since he holds himself to just as high of standards. To me, I’m impressed by his level of conviction, and how he hasn’t wavered in his stance.
Also, I haven’t read what he’s saying as that he mistreats women or anything…just the opposite. He has been quite supportive and overly nice to them, and internally feels that none of them have quite deserved his respect.
Analogously, I was a physics TA for about 4 years, and I can say I never met a single student who was “smart” by my standards or impressed me in any way. This isn’t the same thing as saying I think all students on the west coast are dumbasses.[/quote]
im glad someone understands[/quote]
I hope you find what you’re looking for. Great women are a rare breed, and I’m looking for one myself.
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
If csullli put his wife on a pedestal or snowflaked her (to use your terms), he STILL didn’t deserve to be treated like he was less than nothing. BTW, some women will actually know a good man when they see one. And there are narcissists and users in this world who will repeatedly take advantage or abuse anybody they come in contact with.
I’m not saying that your interactions with someone can’t change behavior. Just that it’s a little skewed to take full responsibility, or to assume that ALL women would cheat on a man who treats them well, and if they do, it’s his fault. [/quote]
God, yes, thank you!
Most of the very good women I know are with very good men, to the delight of both. Occasionally someone cheats or leaves in a way that’s shocking, but that seems to be evenly divided between men and women.
A Facebook friend recently posted “Happy anniversary to the happiest couple I know. Us!” And it was something crazy, like 32 years. It made my day. I totally believe in happily ever after, with both partners openly adoring one another.
I’ve never been with a not-nice guy. What kind of relationship has you treating someone you’re crazy about like you’re not?
[quote]theBeth wrote:
Has anyone read “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” by Dr Laura Schlessinger?[/quote]
Me too. I liked it.
I also like (moving away from Dr. L, but it reminds me) the idea of “acting as if.” I think this is applicable to any relationship that’s off track but could be sound. You act as if the change you seek has already happened, in hopes of spurring it. So the husband who isn’t getting sex acts as if he is, and what changes? Maybe he’s more playful, masculine, dominant? The woman who resents her man’s neglect starts glowing when he enters the room. Possibly the woman would be more attracted, the man less avoidant .
I talk about it with parents, too. What if you treat Johnny as if he’s a good boy and you’re proud? What might happen?
[quote]orion wrote:
Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.
[/quote]
Are you stoned?
While I think you go a little overboard with the rigidity of your views I generally agree or at least find some truth in everything you say but this is the biggest steaming pile of horse crap I’ve read on here in a long time. Do you really think women bring the beater out of a man? Fuck no. A man who beats a woman is a man who beats women. I’m sure that’s backed up statistically, I don’t even need to look it up. It’s true.
I do agree there are women who expect it and fulfill that expectation by finding that type of man, they don’t just bring it out of any man.
[quote]Nman wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
Push, my friend, I’m afraid your biased by your very specific life experience. How do you reconcile my points about the crime rate and balanced budget of Utah? Those aren’t specific to my experience or yours.[/quote]
We all carry biases from our life experiences. So what?
And for the record, long, long before the “specific” one that you mentioned I would’ve posted the exact same thing. It has nothing to do with it.
As far as the balanced budget of Utah, WTF does that have to do with the topic at hand?
Of course a generally rural state like Utah will have relatively low crime rates but take a closer look at sexual crime in Utah:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2488197/posts
Montana’s crime rates are even lower than Utah’s with a vastly smaller Mormon population. Does that correlation mean non-Mormons produce less criminals? Not necessarily. Fact is the predominant religion in an area has little to do with crime.[/quote]
My wife is actually from Montana and I love Montana (considering moving there right now). Here’s the deal for me, I am Mormon, I was raised Mormon but every Mormon has to decide at some point in their life if their faith is right or not. I have a lot of friends that grew up just like me that have chosen other paths. Free Agency is at the core of our beliefs and everyone is free to choose as they please. It seems like you’ve had bad experiences with Mormons and I’m sorry about that. I don’t claim to be perfect nor do I claim that any other member is perfect. We all have our faults and weaknesses. We’re taught to treat everyone with love and respect. If a member doesn’t than that’s at an INDIVIDUAL problem. We’re taught not to judge others, if someone judges others than again that INDIVIDUAL is choosing to do so. We’re taught to serve others, taught to be morally clean, taught to respect our bodies, taught to pray, to read our scriptures, etc… etc… if an INDIVIDUAL member doesn’t do one or any of these things then again that’s an INDIVIDUAL person choosing to exercise their free agency. It’s just like you INDIVIDUALLY choosing to not like Mormon(s) for whatever reason.
[/quote]
To me, the teachings of a religion are beside the point. Christians are taught everything you just said about Mormons. I judge a religions by how the people actually act and live their lives.
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
…
Yes, that would be Bam!
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
Has anyone read “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands” by Dr Laura Schlessinger?[/quote]
Me too. I liked it.
I also like (moving away from Dr. L, but it reminds me) the idea of “acting as if.” I think this is applicable to any relationship that’s off track but could be sound. You act as if the change you seek has already happened, in hopes of spurring it. So the husband who isn’t getting sex acts as if he is, and what changes? Maybe he’s more playful, masculine, dominant? The woman who resents her man’s neglect starts glowing when he enters the room. Possibly the woman would be more attracted, the man less avoidant .
I talk about it with parents, too. What if you treat Johnny as if he’s a good boy and you’re proud? What might happen?[/quote]
Right - you manifest what you focus on. Another really good book is Stephen Covey’s “The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People”. Really highlights the difference between being proactive and reactive.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.
[/quote]
I’m sure that’s backed up statistically, I don’t even need to look it up. It’s true.
[/quote]
Of course you dont have to look that up.
You just knooooooooooow…
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.
[/quote]
I’m sure that’s backed up statistically, I don’t even need to look it up. It’s true.
[/quote]
Of course you dont have to look that up.
You just knooooooooooow…[/quote]
I don’t see that you looked anything up. Looks like you just knoooooow too. Cough it up if you’ve got something.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.
[/quote]
I’m sure that’s backed up statistically, I don’t even need to look it up. It’s true.
[/quote]
Of course you dont have to look that up.
You just knooooooooooow…[/quote]
I don’t see that you looked anything up. Looks like you just knoooooow too. Cough it up if you’ve got something.[/quote]
No.
I will just make more claims without proving anything:
Women are as violent as men in domestic violence cases.
The most common theme is that both hit each other.
Women start those fights more often then men.
In 70% of all cases when a woman is injured, she started the fight, i.e he hit back.
Women are more likely to abuse children than men, in fact, the most dangerous person for a small child is his or her own mother.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Like, knowing that women that get into such relationships will do so again… and again… and again, while the men hitting them most likely wont.
[/quote]
I’m sure that’s backed up statistically, I don’t even need to look it up. It’s true.
[/quote]
Of course you dont have to look that up.
You just knooooooooooow…[/quote]
I don’t see that you looked anything up. Looks like you just knoooooow too. Cough it up if you’ve got something.[/quote]
No.
I will just make more claims without proving anything:
Women are as violent as men in domestic violence cases.
The most common theme is that both hit each other.
Women start those fights more often then men.
In 70% of all cases when a woman is injured, she started the fight, i.e he hit back.
Women are more likely to abuse children than men, in fact, the most dangerous person for a small child is his or her own mother. [/quote]
This is a forum of mostly guys who have never laid a finger on a woman and you think you can tell us we just haven’t met the right girl to bring out the beater in us without backing it up?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.[/quote]
Same here.[/quote]
K so, sorry to bother everyone again, but wont this totally put me inside his comfort zone bubble?
At 6 in the morning the gym is very empty and there would never been any need to be that close to anyone.
It’s a huge ass room filled with like 5 people, LOl. Also, my weights are very far from his weights because I am puny weak woman and he is big strong man. ARh arh arh (Tim Taylor grunt noises, heh).
Is there a less obvious way to go about this? Cause my flirting tactics often come across as very creepy and I feel this would be no different…
Also, if he never makes eye contact with me doesn’t that mean my existence is a bother to him, or at least totally unimportant?
Thanks everyone.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.[/quote]
Same here.[/quote]
K so, sorry to bother everyone again, but wont this totally put me inside his comfort zone bubble?
At 6 in the morning the gym is very empty and there would never been any need to be that close to anyone.
It’s a huge ass room filled with like 5 people, LOl. Also, my weights are very far from his weights because I am puny weak woman and he is big strong man. ARh arh arh (Tim Taylor grunt noises, heh).
Is there a less obvious way to go about this? Cause my flirting tactics often come across as very creepy and I feel this would be no different…
Also, if he never makes eye contact with me doesn’t that mean my existence is a bother to him, or at least totally unimportant?
Thanks everyone. [/quote]
Let a dumb bell roll in his direction and hit his ankle…he will hand it to you and smile.
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]theBeth wrote:
[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I know this isn’t what everyone is talking about now but Bald grunter was alone today only he was wearing headphones. He clearly means business and would be annoyed if I talked to him. If it’s all right with everyone here I’ll just keep watching him from afar and do nothing ever , heh.[/quote]
or you could find a reason to squeeze by him and brush his ass ever so slightly with your hip.
don’t say excuse me, just keep walking. if you catch his eye after that, do what I recommended earlier. hold his gaze briefly, wink, bite your lip and look down.
Bam![/quote]
That would work on me. Just in case you needed some reassurance on that Spock.[/quote]
Same here.[/quote]
K so, sorry to bother everyone again, but wont this totally put me inside his comfort zone bubble?
At 6 in the morning the gym is very empty and there would never been any need to be that close to anyone.
It’s a huge ass room filled with like 5 people, LOl. Also, my weights are very far from his weights because I am puny weak woman and he is big strong man. ARh arh arh (Tim Taylor grunt noises, heh).
Is there a less obvious way to go about this? Cause my flirting tactics often come across as very creepy and I feel this would be no different…
Also, if he never makes eye contact with me doesn’t that mean my existence is a bother to him, or at least totally unimportant?
Thanks everyone. [/quote]
I see your conundrum. I try not to make eye contact with people at the gym because then they’ll come talk to me and slow my roll. Not to mention the creepy old men who come up and pile on the innuendos, because I must have a sign on my forehead that screams “molest me!”. But I digress. Most people don’t make eye contact as a way of respecting someone else’s personal space. You may have to resort to the direct approach. To quote Grace Jones in Conan The Destroyer, just reach out and grab him! Ask him to check your squat form? Or my favorite, ask him to check if you are hitting depth. Ask him for help with something! Dudes dig being needed for shit. Also, self doubt and lack of self confidence is like blood in the water. Life is 90% bullshitting and 10% know-how. What do you have to lose? Your life is ticking away whilst you hesitate out of fear. To quote Marge Piercy “What is it you plan to do with your one, wild, and precious life?”