[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Second thought: I got basically nothing out of Overhead squats. I didn’t like them for TBT because they fatigue to many extra muscles that you will need later and you end up unable to push those movements as thoroughly as you would like. Beyond light work for mobility/warmup, I don’t think that OHS have any real usefulness that isn’t better served by Front or Olympic squats.[/quote]
I was really just trying to incorporate another squat variation other than front & back. I have a little bit of OHS experience, but not much.
I’ll think about switching it out, thanks!
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Quick report in:
Day’s 1 & 2 went pretty well. Day 1 I was a little too conservative on all the exercises. Day 2 was the opposite. I probably pushed the deadlifts a bit too hard having never done 3x8 on deads before. I ended up going lighter on the remaining exercises (pussed out and skipped squats) due to the unexpected fatigue. I’ve made some notes to adjust next week, although, I think I’ll be fine to use the same weight on deads next week.
I’m logging my progress if anyone wants to follow:
http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/blog_sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_log/a_little_bit_leaner_and_even_meaner_usmc
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I have just recently quit TBT training. Going to try a PPL split for a month or two. I learned very quickly that, whether mental or physical, squats at the end of the session were a no go for me. I had to be mentally fresh or I would fail miserably. The inverse did not hold true for my presses, rows or deads after squats. I understand the logic, discussed a lot in GSLP, but it just did not work for me. Just something to think about.
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Appreciate it and I can definitely understand the sentiment.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Second thought: I got basically nothing out of Overhead squats. I didn’t like them for TBT because they fatigue to many extra muscles that you will need later and you end up unable to push those movements as thoroughly as you would like. Beyond light work for mobility/warmup, I don’t think that OHS have any real usefulness that isn’t better served by Front or Olympic squats.[/quote]
I was really just trying to incorporate another squat variation other than front & back. I have a little bit of OHS experience, but not much.
I’ll think about switching it out, thanks! [/quote]
This is just personal experience so take it with a grain of salt when I was trying to use several different types of squats there were a few three squat rotations that I liked. Front/Manta Ray Hi bar/Power squat was a good one, Pause squat/Squat from Pins/Power squat was really good one and probably the best strength developer and Front Squat/Box Squat/Power Squat was my personal favorite as it seemed to make my joints happier while boosting my strength. I did use them in more of a SS only 3 or 4 exercise rotation so they will obviously be different for you.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
Second thought: I got basically nothing out of Overhead squats. I didn’t like them for TBT because they fatigue to many extra muscles that you will need later and you end up unable to push those movements as thoroughly as you would like. Beyond light work for mobility/warmup, I don’t think that OHS have any real usefulness that isn’t better served by Front or Olympic squats.[/quote]
I was really just trying to incorporate another squat variation other than front & back. I have a little bit of OHS experience, but not much.
I’ll think about switching it out, thanks! [/quote]
This is just personal experience so take it with a grain of salt when I was trying to use several different types of squats there were a few three squat rotations that I liked. Front/Manta Ray Hi bar/Power squat was a good one, Pause squat/Squat from Pins/Power squat was really good one and probably the best strength developer and Front Squat/Box Squat/Power Squat was my personal favorite as it seemed to make my joints happier while boosting my strength. I did use them in more of a SS only 3 or 4 exercise rotation so they will obviously be different for you. [/quote]
Appreciate the list. I use to box squat quite a bit I might mix that in.
Thanks!
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I have some Plazma I can work back in and will probably move to SWF now that it’s back in stock.[/quote]
Either of those should definitely help, yep.
Lunges or any lunge variation would work as technically a “squat variation”. They’d probably fit best in for moderate rep work so you don’t have to load them heavy or trudge through crazy high reps on each leg (a time killer).
Also, I just noticed, CW’s original program has the volume increase at Week Three (adding one set to everything), and then the set/rep scheme changes again on Week Five (and then an extra in Week Seven). Are you doing that as well? In the first post’s pic, it doesn’t look like it. In addition to alternating straight sets and supersets weekly, the added volume would be a way to progress.
[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I have some Plazma I can work back in and will probably move to SWF now that it’s back in stock.[/quote]
Either of those should definitely help, yep.
Lunges or any lunge variation would work as technically a “squat variation”. They’d probably fit best in for moderate rep work so you don’t have to load them heavy or trudge through crazy high reps on each leg (a time killer).
Also, I just noticed, CW’s original program has the volume increase at Week Three (adding one set to everything), and then the set/rep scheme changes again on Week Five (and then an extra in Week Seven). Are you doing that as well? In the first post’s pic, it doesn’t look like it. In addition to alternating straight sets and supersets weekly, the added volume would be a way to progress.[/quote]
Lunges might be a good choice actually. I very well might do that.
I did not notice the volume increase. Thanks for point that out! I’ll adjust my plan.
Rest periods also change. I’m really glad you pointed that out Chris!