bushy please let us now how the butanediol works as a sleep aid. i am very interested since ghband gbl are near impossible to obtain. Also im traveling to italy switzerland and france in a few days and was wondering if anyone knew what the laws were on aas and ghb.
I have never seen any fat loss benefits from ghb I dont care what google says.
Good info celtic. Rebound is a bitch for sure. I have done it like narcoleptic patients in two equal doses, you have the second ready to go by the bed, if you take it right as you wake you don’t get rebound till after the second dose but there is no going back to bed after that for sure.
It’s funny now that a drug company makes it (XYREM)it’s like $600 a month without insurance when patients use it for medical needs.
It’s so cheap and easy to make…what a big scam. Good thread though.
It is super cheap to produce. I can remember friends buying 4L at a time for something like $800
well, it cost me a grand total of about 50euro (around 60-70 dollars) to make over a litre of the stuff.
Havent made any in a while, but this thread has reignited my interest.
BBB - personally, I’d just stick with pure GHB rather than butanediol, especially if your thinkin of usin it on a regular basis as a sleep aid.
I’ve read several experience reports of sides with butanediol and Gamma-butrolavtone[GBL] (which also indirectly converts into GHB, when taken alone). Sides like rashes, sickness etc. I imagine this would only occur with extended use though.
I liken it to prohormone Vs AAS. The first converts indirectly into the second, in the body. just like your better off taking real AAS over prohormones, IMO your better off taking pure GHB over butanediol or GBL.
Incidentally, one of my favourite ways to spend a boring weekday evening is to take a little GHB, chill out, watch TV, chat etc, then have an incredible nights sleep (possibly preceded by some incredible sex) and wake up the next feeling REALLy rested and alert with absolutley no hangover/crash. In fact, I usually feel better than with natural sleep.
When I take it I always get this really content feeling, like nothing could possibly bother me. chatting is really nice and cuddling feels amazing. Sometimes if the GF isn’t about I’ll sit there petting the dog for ages (thats as far as it goes though…LOL)
Never really gets me F*cked up (as I dont take crazy amounts), just really mellow, friendly and content. It’s quite mild in the sense that it doesnt “change” you or make you act out of character.
I’v never found it to be habit forming, and take it occasionally simply because I like it and when made correctly has effectively zero sides.
It has been demonised in the media because of the whole date rape thing… I can understand this, but it doesn’t justify is being painted as a dangerous drug. It’s probably one of the safest drugs you could put in your body (responsibly of course)…perfect in my opinion.
Of course, your always gonna get the occasional idiot who knows nothing about the substance, takes a huge swig of it in the nightclub, possibly takes a heap of other drugs on top of it, faints and ends up in the ER, giving this drug a bad name.
Actually, thinking now, a pretty amazing “sex stack” would be GHB, cialis and cabergoline…
must try that soon…lol
GBL works pretty damn good too…makes me wish I still had a perscription for XYREM still. Only weird side effects for me was tendonitis like side problems in my knees.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
CELTIC-DEVIL wrote:
Actually, thinking now, a pretty amazing “sex stack” would be GHB, cialis and cabergoline…
must try that soon…lol
Might I propose that 10mg dianabol would be a worthy addition to this, for the ‘sexual aggression’. I find that butanediol makes me a bit too ‘cuddly’ and not like the rampant beast I usually am, LMAO![/quote]
Hahahahahahaha…better yet, some cheque drops!!!
The sex part would be fun, but the beating my girlfriend to shit part would be a bit of a turn off…for her at least.
LOL
For me it took 10ml per dose in order to sleep…anything under that and I was just silly. Glad to see this thread still running bushy.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
rfish1966 wrote:
For me it took 10ml per dose in order to sleep…anything under that and I was just silly. Glad to see this thread still running bushy.
After further experimentation, I have realised that my dosing was way to low. The reason for this was that since my GF was away this weekend, I decided to enjoy the last little bit of skunkweed that I had lying around on friday and saturday night.
Some of you will know how your mind plays tricks on you when maryjane is in the house, well I was taking tiny doses of GHB, and convincing myself that I was ‘feeling’ the GHB. Anyway, last night I took the same initial dose, but no weed (all gone, boo hoo). Almost zero effect. Took double, some effect. Ended up taking a dose of 8ml and had a nice time watching LOTR extended version part III, then went to bed and dreamt of being a crime-fighting superhero with my dog as sidekick. Awesome 
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Hahahahahahhahaha…thats hilarious!!! Cool dreams man!!
Good to hear it went well for you. Did you happen to get any dopamine rebound after that dose? Wakin up at 3am can be a real bitch…
I hear ya on the dog thing…I cant help but cuddle my dog when I take the stuff, I just get so touchy feely…sometimes my GF even gets jealous LOL…
I love taking it as a way to spend a nice relaxed evening with no effects lingering the next day. Never taken it with weed though…I hear it’s meant to be quite pleasant.
Awesome, hehehe.