Getting Ripped / Diet

currently i do weights everyday/second day i dont have a set muscle group i work seperate days… i just work my whole top body with dumb bells and my barbell… i just work the whole top body till i cant do any more reps on each area… curls bench press etc…

then i do slow cardio or hiit on my treadmill afterwards rotating between the two… so im always lifting and running everyday unless im hurting too much somedays then ill take a break.

but for all im doin im seeing no definition… and i believe my BFF is still to high.

So i take it that its diet ? after ive done lifting or hiit i get a huge hunger that last the whole day… so i tend to eat healthyish but lots to fix this… and as far as i was aware you need to eat big too help repair the muscles from lifting ?

soo im here to ask what the best diet and routine to aim for going by what i already do ?

thanks

Take the diet advice that was given to you in the other thread.

Also, start doing some heavy squats and deadlifts. I remember you saying you have issues with T production, and heavy full-body exercises (like squats and deadlifts) help stimulate and increase testosterone, growth hormone, and insulin-like growth factor.

You can pretty much do them with whatever set and rep scheme you want. 5x5 is a good option. Make sure you just keep adding weight to the bar every 1-3 workouts.

And you should consider trying out a real program, such as Starting Strength, StrongLifts, 5/3/1, etc.

[quote]LoRez wrote:
Take the diet advice that was given to you in the other thread.

Also, start doing some heavy squats and deadlifts. I remember you saying you have issues with T production, and heavy full-body exercises (like squats and deadlifts) help stimulate and increase testosterone, growth hormone, and insulin-like growth factor.

You can pretty much do them with whatever set and rep scheme you want. 5x5 is a good option. Make sure you just keep adding weight to the bar every 1-3 workouts.

And you should consider trying out a real program, such as Starting Strength, StrongLifts, 5/3/1, etc.[/quote]

i was doing some heavy lifting in the standing position lifting about my head and sqauts and damn the next day i was laid up in bed with severe lower back pains for about 2 days lol…

[quote]fendertele wrote:
i was doing some heavy lifting in the standing position lifting about my head and sqauts and damn the next day i was laid up in bed with severe lower back pains for about 2 days lol…[/quote]

Then you need to work on your form…

Also, what IS your diet right now?

Do you know exactly what your total calories and macronutrients are? You can use FitDay or nutritiondata.self.com to figure that out.

no idea man at all… i kinda just workout hard everyday weights and treadmill doin the hiit thing and eat till im full… i dont eat candy and chocolate or chips… but i do like fruit and big pot yoghurts plus cereal when snackish… for dinner can be pizza but can also be mince and potatoes or tuna pasta… im gonna be honest i eat healthy but probably not what u guys would consider clean.

I’m not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt. If you’re trying to build a better body and see definition then you need to commit to it 100%, anything less is going to produce mediocre results. Practically speaking that means using a program with a smart progression like the guy above said, Starting Strength, Stronglifts or 5/3/1.

If you’re trying to lose body fat and see definition, your diet is ESSENTIAL. Knowledge is power when it comes to all of this, read stuff around here, use Google and go from there. Be prepared to put in the time and effort.

If you’re not losing weight, then you’re not eating less then you burn. Simple. To lose weight, burn more calories or eat less. Losing weight is all about diet. You can bust your butt in the weightroom and do hill sprints til you puke. But if you eat more then you burn it doesn’t matter, you’re not going to lose weight.

If your constatnly hungry, go buy some frozen vegetables like green beans or brocoli. Eat as much of those as you want, they are very calorie “un-dense” so you can eat pounds of them and not take in very much calories. That’s how i control my hunger when dieting, because I get unbelievable hunger cravings even when im 1000 calores over what I need. I just like to eat.

You’re lifting upper body every day, and doing cardio every day? Yeah, horrible idea. Get on a simple structured program that you can find on this site, do cardio maybe 3 times a week. Adjust your food intake so that you’re dropping 1-2 lbs a week.

diet is everything.

read some Shelby Starnes articles

Hi

I can understand how you feel, my trainer told me you cannot bulk muscle and cut to be ripped at the same time.
Look at it like how I do if you can.

Late summer heading towards winter, eat anything(not too much crap) but eat alot to bulk up, when in the gym, train for hypertrophy, lifting heavy, short rests between each set. Your goal in this cycle is to build bulk, improve strength, reduce the body fat, which will happen with the growth of muscle mass.

Lats few months of winter, starting spring, still try to maintain lifting heavy as possible, but alter your diet drastically. Try to avoid any white starchy carbs, white breads, pizzas, potatoes, rice, pasta. Look for wholewheat or wholegrain options to displace them. Switch to sweet potato, cottage cheese (high in l’arginine one essential amino acid), and eat 6-7 small meals, the size of your fist at 3-3 hour intervals each day. Switch out one or two of these meals for a protein shake, particularly the meal before bedtime, try to find a good protein powder, even casein that has a very gradual release of protein which will suffice your muscle feeding during the night when you are not actively consuming any food or drinks.

So generally you are eating cleaner, more regularly but you will notice after 2 hours or so, you will be hungry and have to fight the hunger pain to the next meal.

Some people say having a cheat day is fine, but I would try to avoid such a mindset, and sure its gonna be a real challenge, right now I feel my body craving carbs, sweets, cookies, but thats a personal battle all people cutting have to fight against the temptation. One thing for sure, at times when you get these cravings, you’ll find out just how badly you want to achieve your goals of being cut.

Find a picture of a body hsape you’d like to aim for, and put it in the wall so you can see it each day.

But dont expect to notice any body change for 3 months, no point getting in the shower and looking down for the definition of your abs after 1 week, even 1 month, because it wont look any different. Dont be disheartened, just stay focused on training, the cardio, and eating cleanly.

Add in 20 mins of cardio per day, at minimum you should run to a 65% pace of your max sprint, alternate some days with sprint/job/sprint/jog intervals for this 20 mins, use swimming, but even if the rain is beating down, get on a raincoat and job along for at least 20 mins.

If you do not cardio for 20 mins per day, refine your diet, you will never be cut or ripped.

Im not a guru on cutting, or bodybuilding, but I have learned what works for me. I had a huge belly, even now I cannot see my lower two abs, but I have made progress.

I measure myself with a set of scales(with BMI, Visceral Fat, Muscle Mass readings - Tanita is a good brand), sure they can be generally inaccurate, but they give you a rough guideline, I tried the calipers and various readings, but its not easy to get a real reading, unless you have someone there to help take the readings.

I dont eat any cereals, when cutting even oats, I wont have them, they offer complex carbs, but I find I wasnt losing any bodyfat in my mid area when eating porridge, so I cut it out completely. This morning I had a protein shake, tomorrow Ill have eggs, I vary it this way.

My last hint is to try to do your cardio as early on in the day as possible, preferably before eating anything. Your body burns stored fat at this time 300% more optimally, but again we are just human, and running first thing in the morning is a hard sell for any of us.

This is just my advice, and whats working for me, no doubt some people will dismiss my advice, but hey thats fine, I found in the bodybuilding world, there is so much advice which contradicts others advice, so you probably will have to try a variety of different advice, and then see what gives you the results.

But I really believe, you will not see any change, without some hardcore eating, cardio changes, and 3 months minimum.

good luck, and never give up!

u dont have enough muscle to be shredded

[quote]snomys wrote:

Im not a guru on cutting, or bodybuilding, but I have learned what works for me. I had a huge belly, even now I cannot see my lower two abs, but I have made progress.

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So exactly why are you posting advice here? You sound very inexperienced and should probably hold off on giving advice until you get some more experience under the bar.

This is the BEGINNERS forum doh! Wheres the rule saying a beginner cannot offer a fellow beginner advice? I mean look at your profile pic, you dont look cut, just good shouder and bicep definition, but you been training for a long time, you even been here since May 2010, more than 2 years. I been training for 5 months now, when Im training for 2 years, I will look alot better than you!

I offered the guy my advice, as Ive been trying to cut weight and get better definition, which is what the guy is asking for, Im “sharing” my experience and knowledge what has worked for “me”, see my photo, Im, not 100% cut but from where I was before this is real progress.

Why dont you offer something constructive than just coming in here and telling me I should hold off? Wheres the rule saying newbies cant post fellow newbies experience and practices.

You got some serious issues dude. To bother to just sign in and make that comment, its a sign of mental delirium.

[quote]snomys wrote:
This is the BEGINNERS forum doh! Wheres the rule saying a beginner cannot offer a fellow beginner advice? I mean look at your profile pic, you dont look cut, just good shouder and bicep definition, but you been training for a long time, you even been here since May 2010, more than 2 years. I been training for 5 months now, when Im training for 2 years, I will look alot better than you!

I offered the guy my advice, as Ive been trying to cut weight and get better definition, which is what the guy is asking for, Im “sharing” my experience and knowledge what has worked for “me”, see my photo, Im, not 100% cut but from where I was before this is real progress.

Why dont you offer something constructive than just coming in here and telling me I should hold off? Wheres the rule saying newbies cant post fellow newbies experience and practices.

You got some serious issues dude. To bother to just sign in and make that comment, its a sign of mental delirium. [/quote]

You need to chill out. You’ve been training for 5 months, you don’t need to be giving out advice.

There are 2 threads in this forum called “blind leading the blind” and “who’s advice can I trust” where the issue of beginners giving advice to other beginners was addressed. The consensus was that people (like you) who don’t know shit about training shouldn’t pretend lke they do to beginners. The reason is that the vast majority of the advise they give will be horrible.

Are You A Beginner II - Beginners - Forums - T Nation contains a lot of information on beginner strength programs and diets.