Gay bashing on these forums

First off, I’m not gay, but if you want to believe I am, I could give a shit less. For me it has never been repulsive or unnatural. But I was never attracted to men, I like women, especially dark haired gorgeous Italian types.

Second, I may have stirred a shitstorm, but I’ve been around here a lot longer than some of you assfaces who joined up 4 weeks ago and think I’m destroying some nice balance of these boards or some shit.

Third, I’m not railing against poking, prodding, having fun with people - I get shit all the time for being a “metrosexual”, and I could give a shit less - I find most of it funny, because I know it is directed at me by people who I know.

I have a lot of fun giving shit to my gay friends about being gay.

It’s when speech about a GROUP of people is generalized and negative and used in relation to anything and everything that it is wrong. I never said you can’t think, say, or do whatever you want - go ahead. I’m just saying that if language gets to a point where it is increasingly bigoted towards a group, I’m going to say something. Whether you agree with me or not, at least a lot of discussion has taken place.

And ZEB, you’re the scariest type of person - obviously you have some sort of intelligence (unlike mdog over there), but you use it in incredibly dangerous ways. And you actually inspired, reaafirm, and reeasure others who share your fucked up view. Too bad you aren’t arguing for tolerance, love, peace, and all the good stuff.

oops, I mean to give props to Pat Bateman for his post…spot on mate.

I may be a “narrow minded douche bag” but at least I ain’t lusting after your dick Wide Gal.

I don’t care if people are gay, I just care if they have good insurance.

There are some great posts here.

The idea that the black supremacy not being equal to openly communicating disgust for a person expressing themselves- is worth further discussion.

Intolerance is intolerance.

Religion and the idea of following your faith ect. should not instill in you the inability to show compassion and skill in communication.

And I found in the post of Zeb mdog and p-dog the undertones of Religion being the foundation of their strength of conviction, and possibly for the distinction between speaking out about their discomfort with open gay acts and race. I could be wrong. But if this is true what is your desired outcome in taking such a clear stance. What is your goal- if any?

Rum has stated his- it is in possibly making the forum- not just the off topic threads a more educated and respectful place of discussion.

I agree with the Rum,MD, and Magnus it was time that someone at least make an attempt to confirm that not every one here agrees with or wants “gay jokes” or for that matter such a high level of flaming involved in discussion.

How we go about making changes to our T-community is new to us all.

I feel that this way of meeting quality people is only going to grow in it’s popularity. Lava life advertises on MTV now.

It is a tool and although it is true that for the most part one can keep ones identity unknown, for those of us who are engaging in building real life relationships with T-cells it is important that if we are identifying ourselves with this Forum/ Mag that we make an effort to openly take stance on issues. What about the writters who contribute or guests- I would have mixed feelings identifying myself.

So Welcome XXLTank- and thank you for your contribution to this thread.

Shut up

rum
You?re a pole smokin queer, just admit it!! No hetero male would go to the lengths you have to stop this alleged “gay bashing”. cartman would call you a fag too.lol

I’ll laugh when some of you get beat up for telling people what they can’t think, and forcing acceptance.

I call for a new definition of “fag.” It’s now the gay guys that tell you what to think.

Screw you fags! Go be gay and leave us alone!

I agree tony.

Even if someone tries to explain their thoughts on the use of the word “gay”, or explain how they feel, they’re either called a liar or an insensitive assholes.

And to defend myself…how am I an insensitive asshole? Cause I think gay sex is gross? Am I insensitive for also thinking that puking is gross? And don’t get on me for use of words. I can’t be held responsible for the ever changing definition of all the gay words.

Grow up and stop trying to tell other people about morals and what they should think. You guys are so hyprocritical that it’s not funny. Get of your gay high horse and shut up and go back to just being gay and leave us alone.

The point of this post wasn’t to argue whether being gay was right or wrong, just to tell us to quit using the words “gay” and “fag.” Though I can see the point of the original post, I don’t necessarily agree because I haven’t seen any intentionally derogatory comments, only offhanded joking remarks.
If we can’t use the word “gay” we may as well quit using the word “fat” and quit making fun of fat people.
“But fat people can just diet,” you say. Well, the majority of the population thinks they are born that way. They can’t diet, poor Al Roker and Carnie Wilson - they must be surgically “helped.” Who’s gonna stick up for the fatties here on the board? What about the skinny kids. AND WHAT ABOUT THE MIDGETS!!!
I don’t think there has been any “gay-bashing” otherwise we would have seen this thread erupt on that topic. You guys are just arguing over nothing.
I personally have no problem with gays, but I still will use the word “fag” etc.

And someone mentioned that gay men don’t have the same rights as straight men. What rights don’t they have? They can marry a woman, just like straight guys, they can vote, they even have their own day at Disneyland.

You guys are just being a bunch of midgets! HA!

mdog, i don’t know whats funnier, you calling me gay and thinking it is clever, or you being:

5’11
173 lb
13% bf

and on juice.

ahahahahahahaha.

I’m out of this thread - keep it going if you want, let it die if you want. I think most everyone has read what I feel by now, and most people who will be inclined to give an opinion have, so there it is.

Hopefully everyone thought a little bit about the issue, whether they agreed with me or not.

Andy

IMHO if you think being gay is gross, thats fine. People are always going to find pleasure in something someone else finds repulsive. This is life, I cant tell someone how to think or feel. But you could keep the bashing to yourself or you can use your right to free speech. But people can free speech right back at ya :wink: be prepared

A gay man can choose to marry a women, that doesnt make him straight.

An overweight person who thinks they were born that way is in denial.
A gay person who realizes that they are born that way is enlightend.

I cant stop anyone from saying what they say whether jokingly, bashing, hurtful or not. But I can let them know how I feel about it, and if that helps them try to be more respectful at the very least in my presence then im a happy camper. If not, well I just wont hang around you that much.

Lauren

:Vegita starts to jump up and down and flail his arms around in everyones face: :vegita thinks to himself, am I invisible?: :Vegita shrugs his shoulders turns and walks away:

The reason there are more and more overweight people is because is is accepted as norm.

The reason there are more and more gay people is because it is gaining popularity to be accepted as norm.

Everything is relative. Perhaps people are born gay. More and more seem to be born that way every single year. What if one entire generation just “happened” to be born gay. There goes human existence. No more procreation.

I know it won’t happen, but what if…
[Que Twilight Zone music now]


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I want to thank Testosterone Magazine for the opportunity to debate such an issue. They are not only the cutting edge guys when it comes to supplements and information, but they are also open minded enough to allow dissent on its message board. Bravo!

We have heard from many on this thread. I have to admit that I knew there would be a harsh response regarding my stand for free speech regarding the topic of homosexuality.

I do not agree with Rumbach, Knight and some of the others, However, I respect them for taking a stance and holding such a passionate view. As Voltaire wrote: “I disapprove of what you say. but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. I may not go to my death for you on this topic, but I would certainly type my fingers to the bone.

Like all many posts, we have strayed from the original topic. However, I would like to use this post to at least summarize my original intent.

  1. I contend that “Homophobia” does not exist. And in fact has never existed. It has never been proven, nor are there even any strong arguments for the use of the word “phobia” in describing those who are actually “sickened” by any homosexual act.

Because the word has been in existence for quite sometime. And has been promoted (or perhaps created) by the powerful Gay lobbying goups it seems to have credence. I submit to you that just because a word has found its way into the common vernacular does not mean that it is accurate, should be respected as such and used.

Terms such as homophobia are powerful tools which are used to “brand” any opposition to the gay movement as cowardly. It helps silence anyone who may want to speak out as to their true feelings regarding the act of homosexuality, or to the various causes related to homosexuality.

There are many such “branding” methods used. How many times have we read that those who speak out against homosexuals are in reality closet homosexuals. That discourages free dialouge as no one wants to be tagged as being something that is basically “sickening” to them.

Therefore, we have one side which is somewhere between 1% and 10% of the population actively, openly pushing their agenda, while the other side, a large majority, remaing silent in fear of either being branded as a coward,(homophobic) or worse yet (in their mind) being tagged as a closet homosexual!

If the more accurate term “Homorepugnant” were used the connotation to fear would be lost. How can you poke fun at someone who is not afraid but sickened by the thought of a homosexual act? We now have some people going out of their way to show exactly how non “homophobic” that they are. It is cool to be unafraid, right? They are in essence squashing their real feelings in order to cozy up to the politically correct notion of the day. However, in this debate it seems that it is only fair when one side, homosexuals, indulge their “true feelings”.

The homosexual strategy has worked perfectly regarding the branding of anyone who is sickened by two men having sex as, simply being cowards. I ask anyone who would speak out against this contention, where is your proof that those who dislike the homosexual lifestyle are actually afraid of them rather than sickened by them? Do not merely echo the “party line”. Show me the facts. Where are the studies?

  1. I contend that no one has yet proven that homosexuality is something that you are born with.

I am not claiming that one consciously chooses their sexuality. Rather, I am suggesting, in the absence of contrary proof, that this could be a trait that is acquired during childhood. Whether it is from having a distant father, over protective mother, or something else entirely unknown. At this time, no one seems to know for sure. Yet, for some reason that does not prevent the Gay lobby and the politically correct from doing all in its power to push the nature over nuture theory.

As of this date there has been no conclusive proof on either side. In fact, the side that claims homosexuality to be more nuture than nature has been almost silent. Reason being they are fearful to even discuss the matter as any attempt would bring out the politically correct police in full force. This is even more reason to open up the debate!

If there is science of a psychological nature that is known, it should come to light. many of you would not take a supplement without hard science behind it, yet you are ready go forth and spew back the words fed to you by the politically correct regarding why one is gay. Again, I ask any who would speak out against this contention, where is your proof?

Until it is conclusively known whether it is nature or nuture that has made one a homosexual, those who are overbearing in their defense of the homosexuals right to display their affections in a public manner, have no right to make a claim that “they can’t help it”.

  1. I contend that it is the right of any individual living in a free country to comment about any matter. As long as that comment does not threaten someone physically, or infer by that comment that they are going to prevent that person from practicing their legal right.

Those of you who state that it is wrong to speak, write or even think about a negative comment regarding homosexuality are not only wrong but worse yet, hypocritical.

Have any of you ever commented on the obese person in the gym walking at two miles per hour on the treadmill? Do you feel that person got that way by eating to many dougnuts? Maybe he did. However, maybe he has a thyroid disorder which has caused him to gain an inordinate amount of weight. Perhaps he was “born that way”. Born into a faimly of obese people and has never once been given the proper methodologies to reduce his weight.

How many times have you, who would silence another, made fun of what you consider to be a ugly woman? My gosh, she was “born that way”, shouldn’t you know better?

Lets take it a step further. What about the uncoordinated “skinny bastard” who is standing in front of a mirror trying to do a simple dumbbell curl. “He looks like one of Jerrys kids” is your comment to your friend. Could he have been “born that way”, with less coordination? No amount of gym time is going to bring him up to your level, but you pound him nonetheless!

Perhaps all can be forgiven as you are merely “fataphobic” “skinnyaphobic” or “uglyaphobic”. Sound foolish? I agree.

As we move to the topic of homosexuality, and other politically correct subjects you sanctimoniously attack anyone who does not adhere strictly to the politically correct popular conclusions of the day. If fat uncoordinated women get a lobby and a little political clout many of you will be singing their praises as well. Just as some of you have swallowed hook line and sinker the Gay agenda, inaccurate branding words and all!

Gee, should we just put our collective heads down and go through out the day not thinking or speaking a word that might be offensive to anyone? Hell no! If that were the road we traveled we would not be exercising our right to free speech. This would not be America!

I want to end by commending those who have voiced their opinions on this board regarding ones right to speak out on the topic of homosexuality. I further encourage all of you to continue to do so. Those who have agreed with my stance, yet have remained silent, I can understand your apprehension in the face of the powerful politically correct. However, I encourage you to throw off the shackles of self censorship and express yourself.

“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear”.

Eric Arthur Blair

rum
ok sure, your not gay and pigs fly.
it’s obvious you are since now it has become personal to you. now you have repeatedly posted my old profile stats in an atempt to make fun?lol and now i’m on juice?lol. this just gets better and better.lol