Zeb, your speeches are awesome reading,keep it up! And to all the fags on this post put a cock in your mouth and shut the fuck up! Get back in the closet where you belong.
Shut up
How fucking stupid can one person be? The original intent of this post was to let you guys know that you’re a bunch of bigots when it comes to homosexuals, and to hopefully take other people into consideration before you start throwing around words that are genuine slurs to this portion of the population (which is probably an even higher percentage when it comes to the male fitness/bodybuilding industry).
How hard is it to not stereotype anything “gay” as bad? How hard is it not to call a homosexual a faggot? Homosexuals face the same kind of discrimination that blacks have in this country (and still do in some areas). Is that really fair to them? I have the right to call a black person a nigger, but I don’t. That’s just fucking wrong. If you’re cool with racial slurs, then go right along with the orientation-based ones.
Let’s solve the whole orientation vs. racial slur and “gay is a choice” bullshit right here. I believe it was Knight who had the best response to this. If you’re a straight person, just imagine that the world was reversed, and heterosexuality was “morally” wrong and whatnot. What would you do? Would you just start liking your same gender then? Would you hide your hetero feelings? How much would this suck? That’s what homosexuals go through every day that they’re alive, and it wasn’t their choice, for whatever reasons. Just like no one can make a straight guy like plunging his cock into another man’s ass, no one can make a gay man straight. (Now those bisexual coin-flippers are another matter. 
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Tell me that you could “choose” to be gay if you wanted to. That’s insane. Yes, it could possibly be environmental factors from a young age, but what 3 year old is going to pipe up and say, “Dad, you’re making me gay. Stop it.”? By the time you know what’s what, your orientation is set. You can’t help what gets you off (mentally).
Making fun of or hating someone for something that is not their choice is no different than making fun of them or hating them for the color of their skin (also not their choice). You’d be surprised how many gay people would prefer to be straight, just for the easier life. You can get married, you don’t get made fun of for who you are, you don’t get passed up for promotions, etc. For many, if they could choose, they would. And they even try. Many get married, have children, try to fight/cover it, etc., but it doesn’t change what they really want.
Also, if you think it takes a gay person to defend gay people, then you’re just dead wrong. I believe we’ve only had one gay person respond on the thread so far.
Hhmm, To me it seems like this is a reletave topic to where you are in life. It’s clear to me that anyone engaged in this discussion or argument in some cases, are dealing with a ton of insecurities. If you take the time to understand a little bit about your current situation things will be much easier for you in your persuit of being an individual. Many of you will simply not understand what I am saying, for those of you On the edge use this as a stepping stone to further yourself. Take the time to understand your environment, the place and time in which you are located right now. Understand the types of situations that may arise, know that they will arise and understand that your well being will be directly related to how you handle these expected situations. Understand that there are people out there in your environment that are stuck in their ego and not in tune whith who they really are, these individuals want other idividuals to conform to their views so that they may feed this ego. They will argue about right and wrong (all Relative) and opinions that they formed from listening to someone else or from some experience they had. If you want to experience yourself to the fullest don’t let your ego control your actions. Be yourself and let others be themselves, if someone says something off color or ignorant or mean spirited, understand where they are coming from, understand that their ego not their true self is in the drivers seat for right now. Do not retaliate with anger or argument, for that will only solidify the ego’s hold on that individual. We can break the cycle one person at a time if we make it our goal to enlighten.
Namaste
Rummy, you’ve stirred up a shitstorm brother, thats what I dig about ya.
I’m just as guilty as the next fellow when by deeming things “gay”.
but when I say things are gay I don’t consider them bad, they’re just gay.
Like that “curves for men” setup looks gay, not necessarily bad for the dude who’s never moved a weight in his life, but not good for the guy who’s been lifting for awhile.
There is a stereotype, a very distinct, carefully created stereotype, that was concieved and put in place by the same culture it defines. The flamboyant, the well dressed, the impeccable hair, the disco/techno music, the showtunes, the cutting edge furniture. All the aforementioned things have come out into the public eye not because we’ve singled out the homosexual culture, but because the homosexual culture has introduced itself to us…
Queer Eye for the Straight guy is the prime example.
Rumbach, you come off as one angry gay dude.
Brad:
“but when I say things are gay I don’t consider them bad, they’re just gay.”
That is the biggest load of garbage. You are being intellectually dishonest.
You use “gay” to refer to things that are wimpy, or not masculine. There is a reason you describe Cuts as “gay” but would never describe a great workout you just had as “gay”. You use the term to refer to things that you believe are beneath “real men”. In doing so, you are really saying that a gay man is not a real man.
Seriously, can you articulate what is “gay” about Cuts? What is the connection between two men having sex and a fitness center? When you say Cuts is “gay” you mean that you think it is wimpy, not masculine, they don’t lift heavy weights, etc. Those are not compliments.
You say “impeccable hair” is a signature of gay men. What if someone said your hairstyle was gay? Would you take it as a compliment? Of course not, because despite your claims, you do use that word to mean bad.
“i wont even get into the tired “i was born that way” argument.”
You knew you liked girls when you were a kid yes, and infact born straight… well i knew I liked girls too when i was a kid, so what - I wasnt born that way? insert sarcasm hereNo of course not… Yes, as a 5 year old I thought “OMG, i want to be an outcast of my family, my friends, I want people to threaten harm on me, and be afraid of who I tell the truth to, I want to f@ck girls!”…
I want to fear being jumped in the middle of the city while i walk down the street holding another girls hand… Yeap… I wanted to loose friends, I wanted to have boyfriends dump me because i couldnt lie to them and say “I will become straight”… And trust me when I say, women who are not straight I think have it a bit easier as i’ve seen, at least when it comes to the bashing & physical danger(unless you live in the inner city - where as it is much less accepted for females & even more so for males I’ve noticed). But then, we get into the whole sexual harrassment end of the spectrum because the idea of two females fits into many male fantasies. I had guys date me just because they thought they might get in the sack with two girls I found out later. Or make extremely hurtful & embarrassing comments.
Oh right, then theres the whole idea that if you are not completely straight, or completely gay that you must be some crazy nyphmo who constantly wants sex, sex & more sex.
People who i’ve considered my family have even made tons of (tremendous)comments in front of me & behind my back. Leaving me crying, hurt, and scared to visit them.
As for the internet, thats pretty easy in general for me to just ignore. If a friend online says something hurtful to me, I just tell them the truth… They can either accept it & get over it or they can screw off. I will NOT adjust MY personal lifestyle to suit anyone elses needs or comfort levels!
And BTW from personal expirience, I do not have equal rights compared to a straight american. Especially when it comes to sexual harrassment, because according to nearly everyone (including the faculty) I must have wanted it. And thats only one example.
And for all you bashers, just think about who you might be hurting. You may(and probably do considering the percentages) have an extremely close friend or even an extemely close family member who is gay/lesbian/bi.
Flame me all you want shrug its only the internet.
Thanks for reading, and maybe (hopefully)some of you will begin to understand.
Lauren
We’re really going to miss you Rumbach, you queer ass MFer.
Hey All,
I’ve recently started visiting the forum section of this website as recently as just the last 2 weeks and I’ve noticed that EVERY thread that has a lot of visitors, such as this one, ALWAYS contains a negative tone.
Just an observation.
SLCTBIRD
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I personally have pictures of BIGPOP and Avoid Roids being extremely gay together. PM me for details.
P.S. I fucked your Mom
Well if nothing else this thread has managed to show who is a narrow minded douche-bag and who actually has half a brain.
I think the main issue here that a lot of anti-gay people have is that being gay is a choice.
Personally I disagree. I’m straight and when I first head of homosexuality, I did the “gay test.” I basically tried to imagine myself with another dude, and you know what? I couldn’t. Not for the life of me. I couldn’t even imagine myself holding hands with another guy. It just repulsed me.
So here’s the thing, I can imagine myself with a fat, ugly chick and yet I can’t with any guy. So I KNOW that being gay is not a choice. No straight guy in the right mind could do it. So being gay has to be innate.
I’m Asian and I have felt the sting of prejudice and the pain it can bring. So even though I may not understand or relate to the gay people and their culture, I am sympathetic to their plight.
Will you people stop giving these fukin queers the attention they obviously need.
“why is everyone always picking on me? cuz you run like a girl and you sit down to pee”
All these gay guys and gay supporters sure are mean.
So what’s next, we can’t make fun of fat people? Retards are out, fags are out and I’m still not to clear on the midget thing.
Is mdog supposed to be a parody of an ignorant, homophobic person or is he for real?
Props to Neya and PtrDR for thier posts…I think you remarks are both spot on.
Remember everyone, if want the right to use “gay” or “fag” in a derogatory manner on this board, than you don’t have the right to attack someone if they use “nigger” or “retard,” it’s that simple.
Isn’t freedom of speech a wonderful thing?