Furious Log - 2nd Cycle

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My diet isn’t great actually. I am guilty of that. I believe I am eating enough though. You guys can be the judge though.

A typical day of eating for me goes something like this

Breakfast
2 eggs, 2 whites, 2 pieces brown toast, shredded cheddar cheese, and sliced ham.
or mixed berries, yogurt, granola.
With either breakfast I will take Fish oil, vitamins, Greens+, 20mg nolva with a large glass of orange or grapefruit juice.

mid morning
protein shake (2 scoops whey, 1 cup frozen berries, 1/2 cup vanilla yogurt, 2 tbsp olive oil, and either water or milk) or a protein bar if on the road

lunch
this depends on if I am on the road or not (I am in outside sales) but it is usually a footlong sub (chicken, turkey, or tuna) with a large iced tea or chocolate milk.

I will occasionally eat McDonalds, Wendy’s, or Harveys because I really like it but I try not to do it too often.

Today I am at home so I am having a large bowl of chili with mixed nuts and 2 pieces brown toast (buttered). If I am at home I have reg skim milk.

Mid aft
Bagel, salad, or a wrap with chicken, ham, or turkey. Otherwise basically whatever I have around or left overs from last nights dinner.

Pre workout
1 serving Surge

Post workout
1 serving Surge or protein shake and a bagel or toast and fish oil

Dinner
Chicken (1 breast) or steak (8-10 oz) usually with salad or rice and mixed vegetables or pasta and bread.

I have fajitas and chicken caesar wraps often (2 wraps per meal which contains about the same amount of meat as the first meals).

I will sometimes eat Pizza or Thai food (about once a week).

I have an average of about 2 alcoholic drinks (wine or beer) with or after dinner but I have cut down on this lately. I am down to an average of about 7 drinks a week which I will consume mostly on the weekend.

If I am smoking weed this is usually when it will happen. I have cut way back on that as well because I am trying to get my lungs ready for rugby and it really ups my BP.

Late night
Protein shake or another smaller portion of dinner

So as you can see I don’t eat very clean and I eat way too many high GI carbs.

You guys can be the judge as t whether this is enough cals and protien to grow.

I put on weight very fast when i am actually lifting. My problem is that I am sick and I haven’t been lifting.

As far as lowering my BF I realise my diet is to blame.

FG

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As far as lifting/training goes I think those guys are all great trainers and their routines are great.

I do cadio 2 days a week (sports usually) where there is a lot of sprinting.

I am currently doing full body training 3 x/w (Waterbury I guess is closest to what I do). Sometimes I will do a split of chest/tri, back/bi, and shoulders/legs but most often it is just full body training.

This is a typical session (4-6 sets of each)
Pull ups/dips
dumbell press/cable rows
dumbell chest flyes/reverse flyes
preacher curl/triceps pressdown
Dumbell dead lifts or leg press or single leg squats or lunges
quad ext/ham curl
calf raises
abs

I lift either the heaviest weights I can or the heaviest my gym has as many times as I can. No real attention to reps.

I tend to go back and forth between push/pull exercises when doing full body training with very little rest (about 30sec between sets).

I don’t have a whole lot of equipment in my gym so I bust my ass with what I have and improvise when needed.

I realise this like my diet aren’t ideal but again I don’t think this is the reason I am not making gains. It is because I am missing workouts and meals because I have been sick but you guys can be the judge.

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
My diet isn’t great actually. I am guilty of that. I believe I am eating enough though. You guys can be the judge though.

[quote]

A typical day of eating for me goes something like this

[quote]
Breakfast
2 eggs, 2 whites, 2 pieces brown toast, shredded cheddar cheese, and sliced ham.
or mixed berries, yogurt, granola.
With either breakfast I will take Fish oil, vitamins, Greens+, 20mg nolva with a large glass of orange or grapefruit juice.[quote]

1 regular egg and i cup egg whites. ditch the toast, ham (replace with chicken), cheese. ditch the juice and just eat an orange

[quote]
mid morning
protein shake (2 scoops whey, 1 cup frozen berries, 1/2 cup vanilla yogurt, 2 tbsp olive oil, and either water or milk) or a protein bar if on the road

[quote]

ditch the yogurt and no protein bars ever. don’t think scoop, think grams of protein, like 50grams. ditch the milk. Again, fruit or vegetables for fiber

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lunch
this depends on if I am on the road or not (I am in outside sales) but it is usually a footlong sub (chicken, turkey, or tuna) with a large iced tea or chocolate milk.

[quote]

ditch the processed meats, and no bread, and absolutely no mayo ever

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I will occasionally eat McDonalds, Wendy’s, or Harveys because I really like it but I try not to do it too often.

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get the grilled stuff or two if you must and toss the bun. I understand you need to work

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Today I am at home so I am having a large bowl of chili with mixed nuts and 2 pieces brown toast (buttered). If I am at home I have reg skim milk.

[quote]

no toast or milk

[quote]
Mid aft
Bagel, salad, or a wrap with chicken, ham, or turkey. Otherwise basically whatever I have around or left overs from last nights dinner.

Pre workout
1 serving Surge

Post workout
1 serving Surge or protein shake and a bagel or toast and fish oil

[quote]

Not bad, you can eat bread after a workout, but I would not exceed 30 grams of high gi carbs

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Dinner
Chicken (1 breast) or steak (8-10 oz) usually with salad or rice and mixed vegetables or pasta and bread.

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no rice, no pasta, no bread, meat good, but make sure it isn’t crazy fat. Flank Steaks, 96% lean ground beef.

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I have fajitas and chicken caesar wraps often (2 wraps per meal which contains about the same amount of meat as the first meals).

I will sometimes eat Pizza or Thai food (about once a week).

I have an average of about 2 alcoholic drinks (wine or beer) with or after dinner but I have cut down on this lately. I am down to an average of about 7 drinks a week which I will consume mostly on the weekend.

If I am smoking weed this is usually when it will happen. I have cut way back on that as well because I am trying to get my lungs ready for rugby and it really ups my BP.

Late night
Protein shake or another smaller portion of dinner

So as you can see I don’t eat very clean and I eat way too many high GI carbs.

You guys can be the judge as t whether this is enough cals and protien to grow.

I put on weight very fast when i am actually lifting. My problem is that I am sick and I haven’t been lifting.

As far as lowering my BF I realise my diet is to blame.

FG[/quote]

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
As far as lifting/training goes I think those guys are all great trainers and their routines are great.

I do cadio 2 days a week (sports usually) where there is a lot of sprinting.

I am currently doing full body training 3 x/w (Waterbury I guess is closest to what I do). Sometimes I will do a split of chest/tri, back/bi, and shoulders/legs but most often it is just full body training.

This is a typical session (4-6 sets of each)
Pull ups/dips
dumbell press/cable rows
dumbell chest flyes/reverse flyes
preacher curl/triceps pressdown
Dumbell dead lifts or leg press or single leg squats or lunges
quad ext/ham curl
calf raises
abs

I lift either the heaviest weights I can or the heaviest my gym has as many times as I can. No real attention to reps.

I tend to go back and forth between push/pull exercises when doing full body training with very little rest (about 30sec between sets).

I don’t have a whole lot of equipment in my gym so I bust my ass with what I have and improvise when needed.

I realise this like my diet aren’t ideal but again I don’t think this is the reason I am not making gains. It is because I am missing workouts and meals because I have been sick but you guys can be the judge.[/quote]

fix the diet, and I think you will start seeing amazing results

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OK - I was just kidding.

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I am not sure why you are telling me this. I know how to eat to get lean. I am well aware that I eat a lot of crap.

I simply don’t feel like eating that way. I have done it in the past and was happy with my BF but I really enjoy eating crap.

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[quote]JustDrag wrote:
OK - I was just kidding.

[/quote]

? Dude did you wake up from your troll cave ? where did this comment come from.

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Kinda surprised this thing is approaching 2000 views.

I hope some of the young guys are getting something out of this thread. It has helped me a lot so far. I have realised

  1. I don’t diet well
  2. I really like drinking and drugs
  3. If you don’t eat enough on cycle and don’t lift you lose weight
  4. If you stay focused on your goals they come a lot easier with gear but they don’t come free.

This has been a pretty good learning experience for me so far. The first cycle was a massive fuck up because I had no idea what I was doing but I got pretty good results. This cycle has produced decent but not amazing results but it has been for a totally different set of problems. I guess at the end of the day with or without gear you aren’t going to make any progress unless you commit to it.

From here I am going to keep running the same doses and try to put back the pounds I lost (back to 245lbs) and then start leaning out. This means cleaning up the diet. I would like to end at about 240lbs but leaner and faster than I am now. If I can walk into rugby season at a fit 240 or even 235lbs I would be happy.

So far I am still seeing changes each day in how dense my muscles are (my legs are getting difficult to inject now because the needle is having a tough time going through). I am starting to lean out a bit but still looking pretty puffy. I have increased my workout load and so far it has been a breeze. I can work out for 2 hours with no problems. An hour of cardio followed by weights is actually enjoyable.

I am going to have to clean up the diet soon and prob should have done it already.

I am adding adex to the cycle because I am still having some estrogen issues. I really don’t need a set of boobs so I don’t wanna fuck around. The nolva is good but it is time for a 2 pronged approach.

Thats all for now

FG

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Ok update time

Day 63

Weight 239lbs

neck - 17.25"
shoulders - 56.5"
chest - 44"
arm - 16.75"
waist - 38"
hips - 44"
leg - 26.5"
calf - 16.5"

Well things are going back in a positive direction. Workout session have been good. I am loving the new dumbells (so overdue…now I want bigger ones).

I am still not over my cold but I have been able to lift and eat so things are cool.

I am finally starting to lean out. The vascularity in my arms is really starting to show and my abs are starting to make an appearance (just starting)…if I can see them at 38" then I should have a ripping 6 pack if I can get it down to 34".

There has definitely been a shift in weight from fat/water to muscle in the last few weeks. I fel much more solid. I am not nearly as puffy in the face and I can see my jawbone again.

This seemed to happen about the same time in the first cycle as well (week 9).

I will def be running this cycle to at least week 12 and more likely week 16 depending on how things progress.

On a side note I really don’t mind the ball shrinkage all that much anymore. They are usually too big and getting in the way, getting squashed constantly when I sit, and just generally flopping around. Shrinking balls is something that used to terrify me and now I am actually happy for a little shrinkage cause they are a lot more comfortable. It does kinda make me feel weird when the girlfriend grabs them though.

FG

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Day 68

Weight 236lbs

Neck - 17"
Shoulders - 56.5"
Chest - 44.5"
Arm - 17"
Waist - 37.5"
Hips - 44"
Leg - 27"
Calf - 16.5"

I added in 50mg/d of proviron 3 days ago and so far I am loving it. To say it has increased libido is an understatement, I have a chubby at all times and feel like a loaded weapon.

My weight has been a little wacky, it was 241lbs day 65, I am hoping it is water/fat loss.

Diet has been ok but not great. I have had some very good workouts though.

I am continuing to see progress in my stats. Leaning out mostly but I have added back some of the size lost when I first got sick. More vascularity showing up in the arms. Glutes are getting very hard from the added weight to squats, deads, and lunges since I got the new dumbells. My back is looking great, I just need to keep leaning out and it will look jacked.

This cold has still been hanging on. It has been about 4 weeks now and although I am making my way through it I have to be sacrificing gains because I feel so crappy and I am having trouble breathing while I sleep. I have been advised that it is likely a sinus infection I am suffering from which will require antibiotics which I normally avoid at all costs.

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On a side note I might be in love with Michelle Cogger (featured figure competitor).

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I don’t have a whole lot in my gym unfortunately (def no calf raise machine). I guess I can use the leg press machine for heavy loads.[/quote]

i do them inside powerrack… load the bar and lift it :slight_smile:

it works… my calves are 16.4 (and i’m 170cm tall)

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I don’t have a power rack cadav…that’s part of the problem.

I was using the leg press until I broke it (cable snapped) and they still haven’t fixed it over a month later.

I have been doing calf raises with 80lbs dumbells (the most I have at the gym) and single leg calf raises unweighted on a raised surface so I can go lower than 90 degrees but it still isn’t enough weight.

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do you have a smith machine? it can be used to do standing calf raise.

tray one leg calf raise with dumbells

Also i like “waling on toes” with barebell

or donkey raise, or again you can “play” with extra slow TUT (ie something like 10-0-10)

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[quote]cadav wrote:
do you have a smith machine? it can be used to do standing calf raise.

tray one leg calf raise with dumbells

Also i like “waling on toes” with barebell

or donkey raise, or again you can “play” with extra slow TUT (ie something like 10-0-10)[/quote]

My gym has no smith machine either and no barbells. It is a gym in my condo. It is a very nice condo gym but not as good as a real gym.

I tried the single leg calf raises with dumbells today. It seemed to work well.

I will try the walking on toes and the extreme slow rep ideas.

Thanks for your help.

FG

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Weight is back up to 239lbs.

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[quote]FuriousGeorge wrote:
I tried the single leg calf raises with dumbells today. It seemed to work well.

I will try the walking on toes and the extreme slow rep ideas.

Thanks for your help.

[/quote]

I’m happy to be helpful :wink:

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FG - Calves need more weight to grow. Park your car on a slight incline and have it in neutral. Doing make shift raises that way. Feet on ground, lean/lay onto hood and go to town.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
FG - Calves need more weight to grow. Park your car on a slight incline and have it in neutral. Doing make shift raises that way. Feet on ground, lean/lay onto hood and go to town.[/quote]

Haha, i hadn’t thought about using my car.

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Day 78

Weight - 237lbs

Neck - 17"
Shoulders - 56"
Chest - 45"
Arm - 16.5"
Waist - 37.5"
Hips - 44"
Leg - 27"
Calf - 16"

Well after another week of sickness, missed workouts, and poor eating I have taken a step back (again). Lost some muscle and gained back a bit of fat. I should bounce back fairly quick as long as I take care of myself and finally get over this cold (it has been about 6 weeks now of getting better and then getting sick again). Fuck my immune system must be fucked.

I started taking arimidex the last week, I am hoping to get the estrogen levels down so that I can cut out the nolva.

Current cycle doses are as follows

TestE 600mg/w
MastE 300mg/w
EQ 450mg/w
Proviron 50mg/d
Adex 0.5mg/d
Nolva 20mg/d

FG