New to Gear & What I've Gained

I’m 6’0 & 235lbs. I have worked out in the gym for 18mo with no clear diet or supplement plan. I have worked on low carb with some success but not hard core. I still have a big spare tire and big belly. I look big when my shirt is not tucked in but very bad with my shirt off. I look like a fat football player in my eyes but people think I look good. I got em fooled. In high school I was 185-198lbs. I weighed 205lbs when I got out of the army 6years later. I shot up to 256 and looked bad @ 36years old and very poor health. BP was 250-260, Cholesterol was 244 and I would get chest pain. Many times outside the ER debating to go in.

After dropping down to 209 lbs in 46day (atkins) I started up in the gym a few mo later. Slowly crept up to 235lbs and still working out HARD 3x’s a week no cardio.

I bench & 355lbs2X. Curl 135lbs 5x’s, Big non defined chest and 16" small looking arms with a hint of delts. I’m strong! stronger then 90% of the people in my gym. I CANNOT UNDRESTAND why dudes that work out 50% less intense then I have bigger arms and are ripped?

Im not quite sure what the purpose of this post is. But, I would like the last 2 minutes of my life back please.

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
I’m 6’0 & 235lbs. I have worked out in the gym for 18mo with no clear diet or supplement plan. [/quote]

This first sentence says it all!

You have trained a whopping 1,5 year and don’t know what/how to eat!

You don’t need AAS, you need to educate yourself, have a solid diet and W/O plan, THEN in a few years time when results slow down can you start thinking about AAS.

Good luck

Claes

Ps. It’s NOT normal that the injection site is hot and swollen!

[quote]maxx power wrote:
Im not quite sure what the purpose of this post is. But, I would like the last 2 minutes of my life back please.
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LOL!!!

Dude! Your post seems genuine, but these guys are going to eat you alive. Let the games begin…

[quote]Coldiron wrote:
Dude! Your post seems genuine, but these guys are going to eat you alive. Let the games begin…

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Med Pro

I was not going to post my opinion because I am a newbie to T-Nation like yourself. I am not new to training/diet, but I no nothing about AAS.

I am however, looking to take my training/diet to the next level with AAS. I do know that my diet/training and body condition have to be perfect before I start a cycle. In my opinion the only thing you did right was in obtaining your AAS. Some will also be interested in the current AAS pricing in Mexico.

Things you did wrong:

  1. Going on an Atkins diet.
  2. Not cutting down to the correct BF level before starting your cycle. I have read that your BF should be 10%, but to me that seems somewhat low.
  3. No bloodwork done, even though you stated you experienced chest pains.
  4. Do you have a good workout plan and strategy?
  5. Your diet plan appears weak, with no direction.
  6. Protein consumption spaced to take advantage of absorption.
  7. You should have posted your AAS cycle plan with your PCT strategy. The experts could have critiqued it, and given you further advice. Take advantage of the knowledge base here. I am absolutely impressed by the members at T-Nation.

Like I stated earlier, I know nothing about AAS and you appear to know less than I do. I hope you get the help that you need, because you took a serious leap in your training. I just hope you will not suffer the consequences of your actions.

Just a layman’s opinion.

The girth of your arms isn’t nearly as important as the length of your arms or legs as far as pressing strength. I’ll bet a million dollars you do not have long arms or legs.

As a matter of fact, I’ll bet you have proportionately shorter arms and legs than average. If this is the case, thats why you’re stronger than the 90% of your gym like you said you were. It’s a mechanical advantage to press with shorter limbs. Extend your arms on a wall and measure from tip of middle finger to tip of middle finger. is the number of inches less than, equal to, or greater than your height?

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
I’m 6’0 & 235lbs. I have worked out in the gym for 18mo with no clear diet or supplement plan. I have worked on low carb with some success but not hard core. I still have a big spare tire and big belly. I look big when my shirt is not tucked in but very bad with my shirt off. I look like a fat football player in my eyes but people think I look good. I got em fooled. In high school I was 185-198lbs. I weighed 205lbs when I got out of the army 6years later. I shot up to 256 and looked bad @ 36years old and very poor health. BP was 250-260, Cholesterol was 244 and I would get chest pain. Many times outside the ER debating to go in.

After dropping down to 209 lbs in 46day (atkins) I started up in the gym a few mo later. Slowly crept up to 235lbs and still working out HARD 3x’s a week no cardio.

I bench & 355lbs2X. Curl 135lbs 5x’s, Big non defined chest and 16" small looking arms with a hint of delts. I’m strong! stronger then 90% of the people in my gym. I CANNOT UNDRESTAND why dudes that work out 50% less intense then I have bigger arms and are ripped?

So I decided to get help. I researched many articles & settled on 500mg of Sustanon 250 (250 mg per ml) and 400mg of Deca Durabolin (50mg per 1ml) So I’m shooting 10ml/cc of oil based steroids. I went to Los Algodones Mexico just 10min SW of Yuma AZ. All their pharmacies require no prescription. However the Boarder check point guys will check bags. They do not check pockets. I took small sterile alcohol bottles and filled them up with the gear I bought. I bought Sustanon250 (250mg per ml @ $11.50 per amp) & Deca Durabolin (50mg per ml @ $22.00 per amp). Very expensive for 10 weeks but hope it’s worth it. Also got 40 taps of Novadex @ $10 per box & Clenbuterol 20tabs for $7.00. They have many types of steroids but be specific. They have dictionaries of drugs but be prepared. There are many names for the same Steroid. I printed a list of the stuff I wanted which helped!

I also wanted to add protein. I figure this is were I’ll gain bigger arms & legs. How the hell do I eat 470mg of protein!!! I ate 2 scoops of protein w 8oz of milk, 4eggs, 6oz of cheese =100gm of protein. Very full!!! 2 cans of tuna in a tuna melt & 8oz of cheese. 2scoops of protein. Very Full… Help! I’m also using liquid amino’s, Creatine, Liquid Centum, Yabomine, Meca, Zinc, etc.

DAY 1: I started Sunday Sept 03, 2006. Today Just to mess around I was able to press 380lbs 2x’s and cable curl went from 40lbs to 90lbs! I was Leg pressing 540lbs without any trouble. 4 sets of 5 until a huge cramp hit my hams! I should have stretched!

Initial assessment is VeRy Big Strength gains!!! No fatigue! It’s weird, I only notice failure do to my inability to lift max weight however no pain.

I got home and a 100 degree fever started. The area of injection is hot and mildly swollen however I understand this is normal. Took 2 Tylenol and fever is better. Legs were crampy for a few hrs but better now.

This stuff is very working well so far! My goal is to mass up my arms, chest legs, rip my abs and lose the spare tire.

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Shit, here goes another 2 minutes of my life i will never recover…
You dont even need to be a vet to see problems with this.

  • “Slowly crept up to 235lbs and still working out HARD 3x’s a week no cardio.”
  • “I’m strong! stronger then 90% of the people in my gym. I CANNOT UNDRESTAND why dudes that work out 50% less intense then I have bigger arms and are ripped?”
  • “I have worked out in the gym for 18mo with no clear diet or supplement plan.”
  • “I also wanted to add protein. I figure this is were I’ll gain bigger arms & legs.”
  • “I’m also using liquid amino’s, Creatine, Liquid Centum, Yabomine, Meca, Zinc, etc.”
  • “4 sets of 5 until a huge cramp hit my hams! I should have stretched”
  • “My goal is to mass up my arms, chest legs, rip my abs and lose the spare tire.”

Bro, you dont even have the basics of training down yet.
You dont have the basics of food, diet and nutrition right!

You need to realize that up to 60% of your results will be from proper nutrition, doesnt even matter what your doing in the gym or shooting into your system.
You are a disaster waiting to happen.

You havent even clearly stated WTF you are posting?
If its advice, you better stop your shit (youve been on for 2 days) and start over from the basics.
Im not even close to being qualified to offer advice about gear and I see major issues with your “plan”.

Welcome to T-Nation, there are a thousand basic training and nutrition threads here that you should read. Pretend you didnt goto Mexico and forget about the shit in your medicine cabinet until you have exhausted the basics.

DAY 4: Sept 07.2006

OK Things are better. I have been training twice a day very hard. My fear is over training… But for now I feel very good with little muscle soreness.

My diet is MEAT! MEAT! MEAT!
3 cans of tuna for Bfast, 3cans for lunch & 16oz of beef for Dinner. The protein powder after taste makes me a little sick so I’ve upped my meat intake. I eat some fruit but it’s limited. I take 2 multi’s, E, C, B complex, in the morning and liquid amino’s & creatine Pre and Post workouts.

This diet is very easy for me & I see no problems maintaining it. I also drink a hell of a lot of water!!! At least a gallon a day! It dose not seen however urination comes close to my intake however the flow is normal. Bowel movements have decreased though. Maybe from all the protein I eat?
I’m eating about 2300-2500 Cals per day.

I want bigger muscles but I do not want to get fat!

For the level of workouts I do I’m surprised at the lack of pain or fatigue! Very good recovery… This is why I worry about over training.

My blood labs Be for all this were normal. My Bp is 120-130/80-90.
Will recheck Labs to include Liver & Bili fuction as well as hormone levels and I will post them for all…

Just to let you know, I do urinalysis dips every other day as I’m in the Med Field. I do self ultrasound exams of my prostate size and shape and of my heart kenetics and ejection fraction.
I am a Ultrasound tech with specialty in cardiac, vascular and general. I am also a repiratory therapist and have indepth education in physiologic O2, No2, Co2, Bicarp, Vo2 Physiology pathophysiology of nuerologic and cardiac fuction. I consult MD’s often about High protein diet’s. Whats said by a Urology is fluid intake is important and try an avoid high sodium as this combo will lead to kidney stones.

I’m starting Cardio today and plan to do 15 min treadmill @ 5-7mph for 15-20 daily!

My arm length from
wrist to elbow:12in
elbow to shoulder:11in
total arm length: 23in
Bicep 16.25"
Chest 49.5"
foot to knee 22"
knee to groin 33"
foot to hip 44"
Height 6’0
weight 238lbs

I like the advice people have. I wish I had more time to research!
I’m sorry I waisted some peoples time with my post. Back off a little with the Roid Rage! I see there are some opinions that I need to stop what I’m doing. I’m no expert but I’m doing the best I can.

RoidEnthusiast…Got a million bucks?
THANKS FOR THE INFO!

I’m 72" tall
My middle finger to middle finger measures: 76"
I tell You bro… I’m very strong! But look shity!

Day 5:

Some Water Weight so I took some Lasix to help. Lasix made me have a little nausea upset stomache and little dizzy (not from volume loss) but works well. Been doing 30 min cardio at lunch with a sustained HR of 170+. BP still norm & Lasix should help drop it a little. No problem w/ potassium deficit.

Overall my enery level is good with little to no fatuige.

I’ve also added Andro-D Gel twice daily.
4-Androstenediol
Progesterone
Chrysin

Figure it couldn’t hurt.

Still eatting “3 lbs” of lean meat and lots of hot sause.

So far I don’t really see any trouble & BTW my urin still checks out well. I’m more concerned with hematuria.
Maybe just a tiny bit of acne however I’ve been sweeting alot more with cardio…

wow, this is one hell of a cycle log, keep it up. Half the stuff you talk about in medical terms is totally foreign to me but good luck.

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
Day 5:

Some Water Weight so I took some Lasix to help. Lasix made me have a little nausea upset stomache and little dizzy (not from volume loss) but works well. Been doing 30 min cardio at lunch with a sustained HR of 170+. BP still norm & Lasix should help drop it a little. No problem w/ potassium deficit.

Overall my enery level is good with little to no fatuige. 2 days before my second injections. This time I’m going to mix Deca & Sus250 in the same syringe and use a deeper needle like an 18 guage. Last time I use a 22 guage blue tipped needle.

I’ve also added Andro-D Gel twice daily.
4-Androstenediol
Progesterone
Chrysin

Figure it couldn’t hurt.

Still eatting “3 lbs” of lean meat and lots of hot sause.

So far I don’t really see any trouble & BTW my urin still checks out well. I’m more concerned with hematuria.
Maybe just a tiny bit of acne however I’ve been sweeting alot more with cardio…

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I did not realize you were in the medical profession. Hence, the name Med Pro. I did not pay much attention to your user name when I first replied to your thread. Your health monitoring appears more thorough then most cycles that I have read on this forum. Again, this is not from first hand experience, but from what I have researched:

  1. One gallon of water consumption appears normal. Is this for flushing the toxins from your liver during your cycle?

  2. 2300-2500 caloric intake a day appears to be somewhat low when your on a cycle, especially at your current size. What was your calorie intake before your cycle?

  3. Do you think you should mix your protein intake up a little, instead of eating 3 lbs. of meat a day? If this is all red meat, it seems to be alot.

  4. Are you sure you should be mixing two AASs’ in the same syringe? I never read about anyone doing this.

  5. You stated that you were going to use a deeper needle. I believe it was an 18 gauge instead of a 22 gauge. Correct me if I am wrong, but gauge is usually referred to in the diameter of a needle. From everything that I have researched, the depth of the needle is far more important then the gauge. I have read that a needle size of 1.5 in. long is optimum for AAS use. In fact, I have read this on T-Nation, I believe it was written by one of the vet’s.

Like I have stated before Med Pro, these are just my observations and not from experience, so take the info. with a grain of salt, so to speak. But, good luck on your cycle. Your posts do however, appear very thorough. Oh, one more thing. I have read where people were using Nizoral shampoo during there cycles. This might be something worth checking out if you are concerned with hair loss.
Just my 2 cents worth.

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Not sure how much research you have done. But you are in for a nice puncture when you goto shove that 18g pencil into your ass.

Such a newby mistake surely questions your medical background, but, again, that pencil sticking out your ass may make you go back and read up a bit.
For Coldiron, you can mix different steroids in the same syringe, provided that they have the same base. Deca/Sust are both oil based.

Stop. Stop now.
Put the gear aside and listen to me:

ALL THE GEAR IN THE WORLD WILL NOT HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOALS IF YOU DON’T KNOW HOW TO TRAIN AND EAT.

Gear is something to be considered once you’ve reached a point at which gains are no longer coming and progress seems to be stalling. Usually after one has been training for at least 5 or 10 years. Not 1.5 years. You don’t even know how to train yet, so how can your progress be stalling. So you are just wasting the gear and putting your health at risk with your shotgun approach.

Lets use an analogy, shall we?

It’s like putting a nitrous injection system on a Yugo while you are still learning to drive it. All you are gonna do is crash and burn.

Learn to drive the car first.

The secret is there is no secret…just a lot of hard work and a lot of hours spent under the bar.

One more thing, 2500 calories a day on gear is like bird food.
Ive stated at the beginning, you are going to get most of your gains from food, not gear. YOU MUST GET THE RIGHT DIET DOWN.

Again, take some time off, get the food and training right. Take this extra time to do more research.

DAY 6:

Off to work ony my muscle boat.

Max POWER your head looks like a lemon head! Perhaps based on what you have not understood about my body composition and weight, 2,500 cals are very adequate. Most guys looking to bulk up usually are very lean and underweight. And they require a greater caloric intake that includes carbohydrates to accommodate energy needs to sustain their work out intensity. In my case my energy levels have been excellent with the program I’m currently on! Muscle is built on protein and complex amino chains, not calories. I challenge you to show me evidence to this fact. My nutrition is supported with supplementation to include performance enhancing minerals, herbs, synthetics, liquid vitamins, liquid amino acids, and lots of fluids. It appears all you look to do is find holes or faults with what I’m doing, so be it. This should be of some education to those that disagree with your argument and advice. Nonetheless I enjoy your comments. Levity is a good thing!

Just to restate, I am 238 lbs. at 6 ft. 49 in chest, 16 1/2 inch arms, my wrist diameter as 7 1/4 inches, 38 to 40 inch waste, 17 and NECK, I’m estimating 22 to 25 percent body fat.

These are some Calorie figures I was able to find:

Weight Loss: 1300- 2100 Balanced ratios: 50% carbs, 35% proteins, 15% fats

Performance training: 1900- 3000 Balanced ratios:60%carbs,20%proteins, 20% fats

Lean Bodybuilder: 2200- 3200 Balanced ratios: 50% carbs , 35% proteins , 15 fats%

Mass Builder: 3200- 4000 Balanced ratios: 50% carbs, 30% proteins, 20% fats

I am in for the lean bodybuilder range. However my carbohydrate intake is more like 5 to 10%. I am not interested in becoming an a competition bodybuilder. Rather, I prefer to drop body fat while increasing my arm size, increased leg size, attempt to achieve a hint of abdominal tone and defined in my chest a bit. Decreased body fat and increased muscle mass and Definition is my goal.

Coldiron:
My caloric intake before SYNTHETIC hormone initiation was around 3000 calories per day. This was a mix of protein, fats, not so much fiber and carbohydrates. However currently the protein intake is considerably higher. Whether it makes a difference or not, the red meat is actually brown meat as I liked it well done or more accurately beef jerky. I also plan to eat a lot of very dried meat loaf. tuna has been my primary staple and despite the high sodium, tuna offers a lot of elements that are highly beneficial in helping me with my goal. I have stocked up on a lot of skinless breast of chicken and have many ways to prepare it. I have a scale I used to weigh portions. it is unrealistic to think that this type of diet is something I can live with. So I am always open to advice on a diet that will support long term goals.

Thanks for the shampoo information.
PROPECIA & Proscar blocks dihydrotestosterone, or DHT Men with male pattern hair loss have elevated levels of DHT in their balding scalp. DHT contributes to the progressive shrinking of hair follicles and a decrease in the number of visible hairs.

DHT is a the byproduct testosterone or 5?-dihydrotestosterone, (a form that binds with even more affinity to the testosterone receptor) and is why there is a direct correlation with testosterone hormone replacement and hair loss. DHT is a substance in the body that can shrink the hair follicle until it no longer produces visible hair. DHT also is responsible for benign prosatic hyperplasia (BPH). this is a symptom where the Prostate becomes enlarged and causes problems with urination and Bladder Obstruction and erectile dysfunction.

My explanation of liver function Evaluation

When the liver is insulted by factors that cause the Liver Stress, the liver as damage occurs releases an enzyme in the blood that can be measured. Just as a sub note the heart produces a similar enzyme. If someone suffers from Chest pain and thinks they might have had a cardiac attack, the best way to identify that injury indeed took place is by a drawing blood with then the first two hours of the attack. Lab results will show that the heart may have suffered from a lack of blood flow through the coronary arteries causing hypoxia/Ischemia to the heart which causes a release of an enzyme in the blood.
One of the primary reasons I see Elevated liver Enzyme is due to a Fatty liver. The liver is where cholesterol is formed. Excess of fat in the liver in the form of cholesterol causes stress on the liver therefore causing Enzyme release. If this is not treated over time the Liver will become inflamed or Enlarged which indicates pending Liver failure. And Enlarged Liver can also occur from chronic alcohol abuse and Hepatitis. Secondary to this is the use of cholesterol by drugs or other medications. Believe it or not, some of the most popular cholesterol lowering drugs cause elevated liver enzymes.

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
gojira
I played football all four years of high school and saw firsthand the profound benefits with steroid use in young athletes training less than a year. So please do not stand on your soapbox. By the way, I am closely monitoring my health and fully understand that what I am in doing has less effect than someone who drinks a six-pack of beer a day. I would like for you to identify to me if you can anyone that suffered medical consequences from my type of cycle! I personally can point out those who have abused synthetic hormones that mega dose ounces of this stuff. Believe it or not buddy, the medical community has identified that synthetic hormones have a great health benefits! www.cenegenics.com is one of ?MANY? AHA Medical Institute that specializes in anti aging THERAPY that includes considerable research in a hormone replacement therapy. Researchers found that giving steroids to the elderly and people with AIDS showed Positive weight gain and health benefits to include restoring of energy levels, youth and vigor. They also illustrated considerable fat loss. Research has shown that testosterone levels decrease in males at the age of 30 and causes our bodies to begin the aging process. By replacing hormones, research has shown considerable health benefits. I truly believe in the years to come you’ll start to see synthetics hormone replacement therapy for man used as common as hormone replacement therapy for women.
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You missed my point, bud. I’m on no soapbox. I have no issue with people using gear. That’s their personal choice. I believe it can be used safely and with great benefits.

My point is that you don’t know what the fuck you are doing. You just started training and have not learned how to train properly or how to eat. You have managed to buy gear in Mexico and get it back without getting popped and now you are just wasting it with this silly “cycle” you are doing.

Look pal, what I’m trying to tell you is that if you want to get the most out of using gear, you need to do some research, because you obviously are clueless.

[quote]gojira wrote:
Med Pro wrote:
gojira
I played football all four years of high school and saw firsthand the profound benefits with steroid use in young athletes training less than a year. So please do not stand on your soapbox. By the way, I am closely monitoring my health and fully understand that what I am in doing has less effect than someone who drinks a six-pack of beer a day. I would like for you to identify to me if you can anyone that suffered medical consequences from my type of cycle! I personally can point out those who have abused synthetic hormones that mega dose ounces of this stuff. Believe it or not buddy, the medical community has identified that synthetic hormones have a great health benefits! www.cenegenics.com is one of ?MANY? AHA Medical Institute that specializes in anti aging THERAPY that includes considerable research in a hormone replacement therapy. Researchers found that giving steroids to the elderly and people with AIDS showed Positive weight gain and health benefits to include restoring of energy levels, youth and vigor. They also illustrated considerable fat loss. Research has shown that testosterone levels decrease in males at the age of 30 and causes our bodies to begin the aging process. By replacing hormones, research has shown considerable health benefits. I truly believe in the years to come you’ll start to see synthetics hormone replacement therapy for man used as common as hormone replacement therapy for women.

You missed my point, bud. I’m on no soapbox. I have no issue with people using gear. That’s their personal choice. I believe it can be used safely and with great benefits.

My point is that you don’t know what the fuck you are doing. You just started training and have not learned how to train properly or how to eat. You have managed to buy gear in Mexico and get it back without getting popped and now you are just wasting it with this silly “cycle” you are doing.

Look pal, what I’m trying to tell you is that if you want to get the most out of using gear, you need to do some research, because you obviously are clueless.

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I really should have stuck with my first post bitching about getting my two minutes back.

OP you obviously know everything there is to know about this, so why bother asking advice or posting for comments.

Enjoy your gear and be sure to post some performance photos when you have made some gains.

Regards,
mp

Wow…
ojira Total Posts:1214
maxx power Total Posts:351

Now I know what I’m up against!!!
A couple of forum whores that seek negitive attention.

BTW MAXX POWER is it??? I out perform your stats prior to steroids on my shity as diet “and” trained only 1.5 years… How long did you say you trained with your superstar methods!!! Like I thought… A couple of forum whores!!! ojira… sounds like you can use some estrogen!!! Seek help woman with that mouth of yours! Sounds like you C _ _ K envy!!!

Quit waisting my time and post somewhere else…

gojira
Quote ?Gear is something to be considered once you’ve reached a point at which gains are no longer coming and progress seems to be stalling. Usually after one has been training for at least 5 or 10 years. Not 1.5 years. You don’t even know how to train yet, so how can your progress be stalling. So you are just wasting the gear and putting your health at risk with your shotgun approach.

So the only reason someone should used to gear it is because they can only further with their training?

So you disagree with somewhat wanting to accelerate their gains in one to two years rather that 5 to 10 years?

Despite my increased performance and a gym, you believe I’m wasting gear and my health at Risk? Then you Quote "I believe it can be used safely and with great benefits??!?!?!?!

Which is it? Safe or unsafe?

Quote ?you don’t know what the fuck you are doing. You just started training and have not learned how to train properly or how to eat?

Previously I was I’m unmotivated to be diligent with my Diet as I’m sure most of us are. But rather than criticize that I don’t know how eat, advise me with what I’ve posted is wrong with my diet. In the military we had a saying, " Don?t complain unless you have a solution". So tell me, what is wrong with my diet? You also complained that I’m not training correctly. How would you know? When I first started in the gym and one-half years ago, I could hardly bench 185. I have come a long way and have gained considerable strength. In my eyes it?s genetic. In my eyes I have hit a wall with growth! This ?silly "cycle? is recommended by research averages proven successful. Do you think you have better cycle plan?

I don?t hate you man, but I deal with your kind in business and people like you always think you have to skate up hill to get anywhere!

LEMON HEAD
QUOTE? I really should have stuck with my first post bitching about getting my two minutes back.

OP you obviously know everything there is to know about this, so why bother asking advice or posting for comments?

I thought that?s all you ever did was Bitch??? I bet you bitch just to bitch! I bet if I look around your bitch lemon head is in another post bitching. So quit Bitching about you 2 min as I see your one of these forum whores that has no other reason for life than to waist your time bitching. I bet you would bitch even for one min. Why did you bother commenting anyhow? Oh I remember?. BITCH! LEMON HEAD I NEVER ASKED ANYONE FOR ANY DAMM ADVICE YOU IDIOT! DAMMMM! READ THE TITLE OF THE DAMMM THREAD!!! I am posting
?MY? experience, again slower so you can understand

? M Y E X P E R I E N C E? of what I am doing?

Oh and yes, just for you LEMON HEAD pictures will be posted Pre & Post. You?re funny mannn?..

Day 7:

I’m expecting a fever and soreness again