Furious Log - 2nd Cycle

Pharma / TRT
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hey guys,

I wanted to start a log to track results from the 2nd cycle.

Here is the cocktail:

300mg/w TestE, 300mg/w EQ, 300mg/w MastE, 300mg/w Primo, 30mg/d OT

I am running this about 3-4 weeks until I am done the OT and primo I had left over and then kicking it up to 400mg each of Test, EQ, Mast. I am going to run that for between 8-14 weeks depending on how I feel my gains are coming along (I have read too many posts lately advising a longer cycle with EQ so I am thinking of 14+ weeks). Then finishing with a taper of test and masteron.

so far i am a full week in (just took my 3rd shot today). I started at 229lbs (about 20%bf), as of monday I was up to 235lbs (about 20%bf).

I have only been taking the OT for about 5 days and already I can feel it kicking in. Getting the same muscle pumps (and back pumps unfortunately) as last cycle but less stomach problems. Strength is up (not back to where it was last cycle but getting there quick).

Currently I am doing 2 days a week of sprints and cardio and 2-3 days a week of lifting. Diet will be fairly clean and only slightly above maintenance although it is getting hard to restrict myself (not sure if it is the EQ already but I am hungry as crap).

The goal of this cycle is to try to get lean and fit for the upcoming rugby season.

Will keep everyone posted on the results.

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are you using any clen or ECA to help w/leaning out?

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Wow. 14+ weeks for EQ. I read some articles a while back saying it is relatively safe and you can stay on it for long periods as long as you aren’t dosing super heavy. I’m anxious to see how this works for you. Good luck.

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Looks good and I like and endorse the length you’re EQ’ing it

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For fat burners I am going to throw in some HOT-ROX towards the end.

I have also thought about throwing in some winny for the last month or so if I make it a 14+ week cycle…then crusing into the test/mast taper to try to keep things the way they are.

I am not very good on ECA…they make me way too sketchy…I drop weight like crazy (I took Hydroxycut back when it was basically ECA, I went from 195 to 175 in under a month). I had a six pack for the first time ever but I can feel my heart beating at rest, don’t want to eat, and have a lot of trouble sleeping. Doesn’t seem healthy to me.

I am much too scared of Clen or any of the other fat burners to try them. I already abuse my heart enough with recreational drugs and alcohol so I don’t want to push my luck.

The goal was to drop fat from exercise and diet with the gear to maintain an anabolic environment even if I am calorie deficient. I will be eating a little above maintenance for the first portion of the cycle and then dropping the cals and upping the cardio as it gets towards the end.

I will take before, during and after pics and keep a log of progress on this thread.

That reminds me I was going to track measurements, better late than never:

Day 1
Weight 229lbs

Day 11
Weight 241 lbs
neck - 17.75"
shoulders - 54.5"
chest - 45"
biceps - 16.5"
waist - 40"
Hips - 45"
quads - 27"
calves - 15.5"

Although quite symetrical I realize from these measurements that I have gotten pretty bloated and fat. Def room for improvement…I hadn’t realized my waist had gotten that large. I guess my suits aren’t shrinking.

FG

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A lot of people experience decent fat loss on Tren. Maybe instead of or even in addition to the Winny throw that in the last month.

Also in my experience and I’d dare say most other people’s clen is easier on the body and specifically the cardiac tissue that ephedrine

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how u prevent them bitch tits?

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He should not need anything given the products and dosages he outlined in the OP.

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[quote]skinnybones wrote:
how u prevent them bitch tits?[/quote]

Masteron has antiestrogen effects because it has a stroger afinity for the aromatase enzyme than test or EQ. I also have nolva on hand just in case.

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[quote]sapasion wrote:
A lot of people experience decent fat loss on Tren. Maybe instead of or even in addition to the Winny throw that in the last month.

Also in my experience and I’d dare say most other people’s clen is easier on the body and specifically the cardiac tissue that ephedrine[/quote]

I have thought about tren (today actually)…the only thing that worries me is that it makes many people very lathargic and kills endurance…part of the purposed of this stack was to aid endurance (the EQ being able to increase EPO). I am going to be doing a lot of cardio to get ready for the upcoming rugby season. also I am using all long acting esters and don’t want to have to pin ED just one type of gear. I lose fat fast when I actually run and do the cardio so I will wait and see how it goes.

I will likely try a tren ace, NPP, and test prop cycle at some point in the next year or two. I was kinda saving it for later in my juicing career…sorta like a young starlet waiting until her 3rd or 4th film to do a DP scene.

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Decreased aerobic capacity is sort of like the night sweats different guys get them to different degrees. If you know your own body’s aerobic capacity decreases on tren then yes avoid it. Otherwise if you’re off-season give it a shot and see.

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You are such a schmuck! I hope your woman likes the effects you’re praying for. You see, because testosterone breaks down into estrogens, men’s voices may rise (totally cool) and their breasts get larger (every woman’s dream come true). In women, the extra testosterone can make the clitoris grow and the face sprout thick hair (for you roid retards who go both ways).

In the long term steroids raise cholesterol level and blood pressure, creating the risk of heart attack and stroke. The liver can malfunction, so jaundice yellows the eyes and skin. Adolescents stop growing because the growth plates in the bones close prematurely. Yet you losers go for it as if you are without the ability to be harmed. Stupid!

Tell the truth you girlie men! The world of BB and PL if full of denials, lies and advice given with a wink and a nod. Here’s to you Mr. Bitch Tits with a 405 bench. I want to be just like you.

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So what’s your point again? Do you think the OP has a good cycle going?

[quote]JustDrag wrote:
You are such a schmuck! I hope your woman likes the effects you’re praying for. You see, because testosterone breaks down into estrogens, men’s voices may rise (totally cool) and their breasts get larger (every woman’s dream come true). In women, the extra testosterone can make the clitoris grow and the face sprout thick hair (for you roid retards who go both ways).

In the long term steroids raise cholesterol level and blood pressure, creating the risk of heart attack and stroke. The liver can malfunction, so jaundice yellows the eyes and skin. Adolescents stop growing because the growth plates in the bones close prematurely. Yet you losers go for it as if you are without the ability to be harmed. Stupid!

Tell the truth you girlie men! The world of BB and PL if full of denials, lies and advice given with a wink and a nod. Here’s to you Mr. Bitch Tits with a 405 bench. I want to be just like you.

[/quote]

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA… like the girl who knows she’s made it to the big time when she finally gets to be covered in a Peter North facial.

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[quote]JustDrag wrote:
You are such a schmuck! I hope your woman likes the effects you’re praying for. You see, because testosterone breaks down into estrogens, men’s voices may rise (totally cool) and their breasts get larger (every woman’s dream come true). In women, the extra testosterone can make the clitoris grow and the face sprout thick hair (for you roid retards who go both ways).

In the long term steroids raise cholesterol level and blood pressure, creating the risk of heart attack and stroke. The liver can malfunction, so jaundice yellows the eyes and skin. Adolescents stop growing because the growth plates in the bones close prematurely. Yet you losers go for it as if you are without the ability to be harmed. Stupid!

Tell the truth you girlie men! The world of BB and PL if full of denials, lies and advice given with a wink and a nod. Here’s to you Mr. Bitch Tits with a 405 bench. I want to be just like you.

[/quote]

I never understand these people. If you are that full of zealous energy why don’t you go volunteer for the peace corps or something. You remind me of a Jehova’s Witness. Find something to do to help people instead of being a douchebag on a website where people are trying to gain knowledge and improve themselves.

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I had no idea steroids could grow my clitoris!!!

I have changed my mind and am stopping my cycle today. Thanks JustDrag. Sorry guys this is the end of the log.

Fuckin idiot.

I’m glad to see that you joined the site as a member a whole 3 days ago, I guess you are an expert now. What’d you do read a local newspaper article about “the hidden dangers of steroid use in our teenage children” and decide that you were going on a crusade to save us. If you wanna see my “bich tits” you can check my profile. there are pictures there. I have nothing to hide or lie about.

You will notice I am not an adolecent or a woman.

I regularly check my BP (I have a home kit) and will periodically do blood panels.

FYI - you only get liver problems with heavy/prolonged use of oral steroids that are 17AA or using those steroids with drugs and alcohol which are also hard on your liver (if you don’t know that you maybe aren’t the best person to be dispensing advice). I am currently using only 20mg/d of a very mild oral for only 3 weeks to start this cycle off. If I was using anything stronger I would be taking a liver support supplement.

I am not sure where I claimed to bench 405?

I would be more than happy to have a look at any valid criticism you have of my cycle or steroids in general but I haven’t seen any in your post.

If you are going to call me a schmuck you should first get to know me or at least know what you are talking about.

[quote]JustDrag wrote:
You are such a schmuck! I hope your woman likes the effects you’re praying for. You see, because testosterone breaks down into estrogens, men’s voices may rise (totally cool) and their breasts get larger (every woman’s dream come true). In women, the extra testosterone can make the clitoris grow and the face sprout thick hair (for you roid retards who go both ways).

In the long term steroids raise cholesterol level and blood pressure, creating the risk of heart attack and stroke. The liver can malfunction, so jaundice yellows the eyes and skin. Adolescents stop growing because the growth plates in the bones close prematurely. Yet you losers go for it as if you are without the ability to be harmed. Stupid!

Tell the truth you girlie men! The world of BB and PL if full of denials, lies and advice given with a wink and a nod. Here’s to you Mr. Bitch Tits with a 405 bench. I want to be just like you.

[/quote]

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Exactly.

[quote]H-Train wrote:
I was kinda saving it for later in my juicing career…sorta like a young starlet waiting until her 3rd or 4th film to do a DP scene.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA… like the girl who knows she’s made it to the big time when she finally gets to be covered in a Peter North facial.

[/quote]

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Well now that the don’t do drugs hijack of this thread is done I will get back to it’s intended purpose. tracking results:

Day 14

Weight 240lbs

Neck 17.25"
Shoulders 55.5"
Chest 45.5"
Arms 16.5"
Waist 39"
Hips 45.5"
Leg 27"
Calf 16"