[quote]B.L.U. Ninja wrote:
Why not do a Upper/Lower/Upper then Lower/Upper/Lower?[/quote]
This right here is as straightforward a split as they come for a guy training 3 times a week.
[quote]w-a-t-p wrote:
Damm, it was meant to be 2x a week not 3. However, even at the that I don’t know what I was thinking with the demands of the workout, it’s extremely demanding and would only run anyone into the ground.
I’m looking for a full body work out 2x or 3x a week? any suggestions?
Doing the A on day 1, B on day 2, C on day 3, plus adding some accessory movements is a good shout indeed.
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What’s your reasoning behind the split?
[quote]w-a-t-p wrote:
Damm, it was meant to be 2x a week not 3. However, even at the that I don’t know what I was thinking with the demands of the workout, it’s extremely demanding and would only run anyone into the ground.
I’m looking for a full body work out 2x or 3x a week? any suggestions?
Doing the A on day 1, B on day 2, C on day 3, plus adding some accessory movements is a good shout indeed.
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Why are you looking for a workout that only takes up 2 days a week…on a bodybuilding forum?
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
w-a-t-p wrote:
Damm, it was meant to be 2x a week not 3. However, even at the that I don’t know what I was thinking with the demands of the workout, it’s extremely demanding and would only run anyone into the ground.
I’m looking for a full body work out 2x or 3x a week? any suggestions?
Doing the A on day 1, B on day 2, C on day 3, plus adding some accessory movements is a good shout indeed.
Why are you looking for a workout that only takes up 2 days a week…on a bodybuilding forum?
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Oh, you silly meathead. What do you expect, for him to actually make sacrifices for this?
They need a “bodybuilding light” forum…you know, just for people who think half assing it is a great idea.
For the OP, you should have time to work out more than two times a week. If you don’t, you should be posting elsewhere 'cause you’re gonna get nowhere training like that.
Here’s the problem with a workout such as this, and has been one of my main complaints about full body, other than the fact that it is not as good for gaining size as a split, long term.
If you pushed yourself on any of those six exercises on monday you shouldn’t be good to go on friday never mind wednesday. Next, you are using pretty low rep schemes for the pretty short rest period. In a way this almost seems more suited to conditioning than strength training. You are going to be pretty tired doing this workout, tired to the point that your fatigue is going to keep the weight down. Blending energy system work and strength training together is not a good idea at all because your not going to do either very well.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Oh, you silly meathead. What do you expect, for him to actually make sacrifices for this?
They need a “bodybuilding light” forum…you know, just for people who think half assing it is a great idea.[/quote]
That’s actually not a bad idea. Than this guy can post there too:
What’s going on here? CW come out with a new article or something?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
need a “bodybuilding light” forum…[/quote]
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAA!
Is there a reason you can only train twice a week? If your goal is bodybuilding, then I strongly advise you split things up. That routine is begging for a back injury, and I’m quite sure you don’t want that.
“TBT” is a great way to add muscle when done correctly. The OP has posted a crappy program that will probably only work for beginners. When intensity and volume are manipulated correctly, you can gain lots of mass squatting 3x a week. Both splits and “tbt” are proven methods for getting people big and one might work better than the other for certain individuals.
[quote]elano wrote:
“TBT” is a great way to add muscle when done correctly. The OP has posted a crappy program that will probably only work for beginners. When intensity and volume are manipulated correctly, you can gain lots of mass squatting 3x a week. Both splits and “tbt” are proven methods for getting people big and one might work better than the other for certain individuals.[/quote]
Dude, if you can squat 3 fucking times a week, I really question how “big” these people are actually getting.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
need a “bodybuilding light” forum…
HAHAHAHAHAAAAHAA!
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lol. I thought that was funny too.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
elano wrote:
“TBT” is a great way to add muscle when done correctly. The OP has posted a crappy program that will probably only work for beginners. When intensity and volume are manipulated correctly, you can gain lots of mass squatting 3x a week. Both splits and “tbt” are proven methods for getting people big and one might work better than the other for certain individuals.
Dude, if you can squat 3 fucking times a week, I really question how “big” these people are actually getting.[/quote]
The only lapse of time where I would squat 3xw would be on a leg specialization phase, neither that, 'cause I’d probably use different exercises in workout 1,2 and 3. I’ve done half body and half body, 2 workouts a week, only when my budget deficit was such that didn’t let me train more than twice a week.
My arms looked smaller, when I returned to my normal split my arms looked as swole as usual, period.
If half the body sucked, I can’t even imagine how TBT sucks.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
elano wrote:
“TBT” is a great way to add muscle when done correctly. The OP has posted a crappy program that will probably only work for beginners. When intensity and volume are manipulated correctly, you can gain lots of mass squatting 3x a week. Both splits and “tbt” are proven methods for getting people big and one might work better than the other for certain individuals.
Dude, if you can squat 3 fucking times a week, I really question how “big” these people are actually getting.[/quote]
In my post I said “when intensity and volume are manipulated correctly.” More specifically I am talking about periodization. I’m sure you already know how this works but for those who don’t, you manipulate the variables so that you have the right amount of stress needed to spur growth and enough recovery time to adapt to it. Splits and “TBT” are just 2 different ways to get to the same place. Both have their pros and cons.
[quote]elano wrote:
Professor X wrote:
elano wrote:
“TBT” is a great way to add muscle when done correctly. The OP has posted a crappy program that will probably only work for beginners. When intensity and volume are manipulated correctly, you can gain lots of mass squatting 3x a week. Both splits and “tbt” are proven methods for getting people big and one might work better than the other for certain individuals.
Dude, if you can squat 3 fucking times a week, I really question how “big” these people are actually getting.
In my post I said “when intensity and volume are manipulated correctly.” More specifically I am talking about periodization. I’m sure you already know how this works but for those who don’t, you manipulate the variables so that you have the right amount of stress needed to spur growth and enough recovery time to adapt to it. Splits and “TBT” are just 2 different ways to get to the same place. Both have their pros and cons. [/quote]
Please name all these “pros” for TBT. Throw in some pics of guys who got really big by using TBT while you’re at it.
[copy and paste answer from Waterbury article HERE]
Full body workouts did a great job for my legs… I like squatting. But for my upper body not so much.
Just go for a good split.
[quote]The Austrian Oak wrote:
Please name all these “pros” for TBT. Throw in some pics of guys who got really big by using TBT while you’re at it.
[copy and paste answer from Waterbury article HERE][/quote]
Mike Menzter, a lot of college football and other collegiate athletes and lifters from East Europe who could basically eat you in two servings.
DeFranco’s training?
Seriously though I think squatting 3x a week when done right and other full body workouts are the optimal way for beginners especially to put on a significant amount of mass. The hormonal effects of demanding full body workouts produce very good anabolic responses.
I think lifters who workout in splits would greatly benefit from changing things up every once and a while and trying a full body template for a short period of time.
If you’re new to training, want to get stronger and add serious mass in a short period of time then full body workouts like squatting 3 times a week are unmatched.
[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
The Austrian Oak wrote:
Please name all these “pros” for TBT. Throw in some pics of guys who got really big by using TBT while you’re at it.
[copy and paste answer from Waterbury article HERE]
Mike Menzter, a lot of college football and other collegiate athletes and lifters from East Europe who could basically eat you in two servings.
DeFranco’s training?
Seriously though I think squatting 3x a week when done right and other full body workouts are the optimal way for beginners especially to put on a significant amount of mass. The hormonal effects of demanding full body workouts produce very good anabolic responses.
I think lifters who workout in splits would greatly benefit from changing things up every once and a while and trying a full body template for a short period of time.
If you’re new to training, want to get stronger and add serious mass in a short period of time then full body workouts like squatting 3 times a week are unmatched.[/quote]
Mike Mentzer built that physique training like every other bodybuilder back then, not by doing TBT or even his own HIT training that he LATER developed. Further, he asks for PICTURES of people who got extremely big by training that way exclusively. No one has ever fucking said that you can not gain muscle at all that way. We just know for a fact that most people who actually got really big and proportioned didn’t do it training TBT 3 times a week.
It also makes little sense to make statements about how beginners should train as if training splits somehow decreases the gains made as a newbie. That’s retarded.
Didn’t MODOK state that for a while he was training bodyparts up to 3x a week and making good gains? (I may be remembering incorrectly so excuse me).
And while he did, that doesn’t mean everyone can do that. I think we should allow room for personal differences. I think it’s widely accepted that beginners should train their muscles more frquently than an advanced or intermdiate lifter (because the weights and intensity they exert are a lot less), but I think 3x a week is really pushing it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Gettnitdone wrote:
The Austrian Oak wrote:
Please name all these “pros” for TBT. Throw in some pics of guys who got really big by using TBT while you’re at it.
[copy and paste answer from Waterbury article HERE]
Mike Menzter, a lot of college football and other collegiate athletes and lifters from East Europe who could basically eat you in two servings.
DeFranco’s training?
Seriously though I think squatting 3x a week when done right and other full body workouts are the optimal way for beginners especially to put on a significant amount of mass. The hormonal effects of demanding full body workouts produce very good anabolic responses.
I think lifters who workout in splits would greatly benefit from changing things up every once and a while and trying a full body template for a short period of time.
If you’re new to training, want to get stronger and add serious mass in a short period of time then full body workouts like squatting 3 times a week are unmatched.
Mike Mentzer built that physique training like every other bodybuilder back then, not by doing TBT or even his own HIT training that he LATER developed. Further, he asks for PICTURES of people who got extremely big by training that way exclusively. No one has ever fucking said that you can not gain muscle at all that way. We just know for a fact that most people who actually got really big and proportioned didn’t do it training TBT 3 times a week.
It also makes little sense to make statements about how beginners should train as if training splits somehow decreases the gains made as a newbie. That’s retarded.[/quote]
What is your opinion on beginners making more progress doing the basic lifts more frequently? As in, if a beginner squats 2x a week instead of once a week he makes progress twice as fast? or do you think that a newbie training his muscles once a week will potentially make just as fast progress as if he was training his muscles 2x a week?
I am completely neutral on this issue and interested in what an advanced liftersuch as yourself thinks.