From Fab to Flab... On Purpose!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.[/quote]

The guy isn’t in amazing shape, BUT I respect that he was willing to try being fat.

Its easy for skinny people to bulk, run, or train. Starting off fat and then training is totally different.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.

The guy isn’t in amazing shape, BUT I respect that he was willing to try being fat.

Its easy for skinny people to bulk, run, or train. Starting off fat and then training is totally different.
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Coming from the guy who doesn’t even train!

Fat people should be seeing faster progress (ie, weight loss) than anyone else training!

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?[/quote]

Where is the sauna dude? I’m down

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.

The guy isn’t in amazing shape, BUT I respect that he was willing to try being fat.

Its easy for skinny people to bulk, run, or train. Starting off fat and then training is totally different.

Coming from the guy who doesn’t even train!

Fat people should be seeing faster progress (ie, weight loss) than anyone else training! [/quote]

Ha!

The fat people are carrying 30 extra pounds on their body. Imagine doing sprints with 30lbs on your back. And you can never take it off.

And yes, fatties see results faster. But the results you see are “Hey bill, you slimmed down” or “Jim, your clothing don’t seem so snug”. 2 months of training just to get smaller. And then another 2 months to even see abs.

Skinny bastards can spend a month in the gym and see abs or see veins on their arms. Skinny people got it easy. Just lift weights and eat. You’ll be fine.

Fatties: Lose weight first, start lifting, and then start eating again.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.[/quote]

Again, it was not impressive to YOU. Many Many people would find his physique impressive, it’s why people like him sell underwear and not guys like Ronnie. I am not about to tell you that ronnies physique is unimpressive even though I would never in 1 million years ever want to be that big. It’s personal preference, you being derogatory towards him does not really say much about him, but it does say something about you.

I’m done arguing for the day. Nobody gives a shit what I think anyways.

V

Hey, he looks just like Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.

The guy isn’t in amazing shape, BUT I respect that he was willing to try being fat.

Its easy for skinny people to bulk, run, or train. Starting off fat and then training is totally different.

Coming from the guy who doesn’t even train!

Fat people should be seeing faster progress (ie, weight loss) than anyone else training!

Ha!

The fat people are carrying 30 extra pounds on their body. Imagine doing sprints with 30lbs on your back. And you can never take it off.

And yes, fatties see results faster. But the results you see are “Hey bill, you slimmed down” or “Jim, your clothing don’t seem so snug”. 2 months of training just to get smaller. And then another 2 months to even see abs.

Skinny bastards can spend a month in the gym and see abs or see veins on their arms. Skinny people got it easy. Just lift weights and eat. You’ll be fine.

Fatties: Lose weight first, start lifting, and then start eating again.[/quote]

So you sayin that it takes only 4 months to go from fat to ‘see teh 6 pack?’ Do you even know what being fat means brother?

[quote]Vegita wrote:

Again, it was not impressive to YOU.[/quote]

Gee, that’s the point. I could give a shit what sedentary people are impressed with.

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Many Many people would find his physique impressive, it’s why people like him sell underwear and not guys like Ronnie. I am not about to tell you that ronnies physique is unimpressive even though I would never in 1 million years ever want to be that big. It’s personal preference, you being derogatory towards him does not really say much about him, but it does say something about you.[/quote]

How was I derogatory towards him? Be specific.

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I’m done arguing for the day. Nobody gives a shit what I think anyways.

V[/quote]

Well, I do agree there.

[quote]Bicep_craze wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LankyMofo wrote:
Are you guys going to touch tips now?

…and here I thought today would be boring.

as far as their debate:
The guy WAS skinny. His physique was not that impressive in the first place but he fucked that up by becoming obese for no reason and building no new muscle to help out his metabolism. There isn’t shit anyone can “learn” from that other than how easy it is to fall into a lifestyle that involves eating and sitting on your ass all day.

No, everyone does not have the same goals, but this guy wasn’t exactly built like a running back. He was the typical skinny dude you see modeling clothes on runways, the type who only need visible abs and a coat hanger body. It is not wrong to point that out or to not be impressed by it.

The guy isn’t in amazing shape, BUT I respect that he was willing to try being fat.

Its easy for skinny people to bulk, run, or train. Starting off fat and then training is totally different.

Coming from the guy who doesn’t even train!

Fat people should be seeing faster progress (ie, weight loss) than anyone else training!

Ha!

The fat people are carrying 30 extra pounds on their body. Imagine doing sprints with 30lbs on your back. And you can never take it off.

And yes, fatties see results faster. But the results you see are “Hey bill, you slimmed down” or “Jim, your clothing don’t seem so snug”. 2 months of training just to get smaller. And then another 2 months to even see abs.

Skinny bastards can spend a month in the gym and see abs or see veins on their arms. Skinny people got it easy. Just lift weights and eat. You’ll be fine.

Fatties: Lose weight first, start lifting, and then start eating again.

So you sayin that it takes only 4 months to go from fat to ‘see teh 6 pack?’ Do you even know what being fat means brother?[/quote]

Well, I was being broad. It takes months for a fat(usually this means obese) person to drop their fat level to a good standard. Now you have the choice of bulking and adding muscle or cut to actually see more abs.

Either way, skinny people can do less work and get more benefits. For the personal trainer to gain weight and see what it feels like to be fat is cool. He’ll be able to empathize with his clients and know how to properly motivate them.

Up yours, Lanky. Suck it, Bicep Craze.( Just wanted to get that out of the way)

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
For the personal trainer to gain weight and see what it feels like to be fat is cool. He’ll be able to empathize with his clients and know how to properly motivate them.

[/quote]

Doubtful. All this will do is allow him to now say, “see, I was fat too!!”. I suggest all doctors get whatever random disease their patients have so they can better empathize with them. Same logic. If this truly changes his approach much at all, then he wasn’t that good to start with.

Also, he isn’t THAT fat for this to provide some revelation. It isn’t like he is going from bed ridden to fit and how much do you need to empathize to get the average pot bellied couch potato to start moving? Their lack of exercise is why they were that out of shape to start with.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
For the personal trainer to gain weight and see what it feels like to be fat is cool. He’ll be able to empathize with his clients and know how to properly motivate them.

Doubtful. All this will do is allow him to now say, “see, I was fat too!!”. I suggest all doctors get whatever random disease their patients have so they can better empathize with them. Same logic. If this truly changes his approach much at all, then he wasn’t that good to start with.

Also, he isn’t THAT fat for this to provide some revelation. It isn’t like he is going from bed ridden to fit and how much do you need to empathize to get the average pot bellied couch potato to start moving? Their lack of exercise is why they were that out of shape to start with.[/quote]

Damn it, I’ll reply later. I have to go.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:

Again, it was not impressive to YOU.

Gee, that’s the point. I could give a shit what sedentary people are impressed with.

Many Many people would find his physique impressive, it’s why people like him sell underwear and not guys like Ronnie. I am not about to tell you that ronnies physique is unimpressive even though I would never in 1 million years ever want to be that big. It’s personal preference, you being derogatory towards him does not really say much about him, but it does say something about you.

How was I derogatory towards him? Be specific.

I’m done arguing for the day. Nobody gives a shit what I think anyways.

V

Well, I do agree there.[/quote]

Ok I guess I can argue a little more. Only cause you don’t care.

To your first point, he is a personal trainer, I don’t see where it said he trains top athletes or strength competetors. It even said his reason for doing this was to better connect and understand his clients, so to him, he does care what sedentary people think. He didn’t do it for people like you, so for you to comment on how he looked prior doesn’t really make much sense. He most likley trains soccer moms and fat office workers, THEY would be impressed with his prior physique and probably even moreso if they see him get fat and then back to his old shape.

Imagine this scenario, you are at a lifting meet and a couple is sitting next to you, the guy is into it but the wife is not. A guy busts his ass and deadlifts 800 Lbs, the wife then leans over to the husband as says something like whats so great about that. You telling me you wouldn’t be put off by a comment like that? Well the guy may not have had your goals, but he most likley did put in a lot of hard work to get to his goals. So while I retract my statement about you being disrespectful, it’s not the best word to describe it, you were poo pooing him. Cant think of a better term so bear with me. I’m not saying you aren’t entitled to your opinion of the guy, or that it’s the wrong opinion, but it seems you are quick to discredit his achievements based on his goals and not based on how hard he worked to get there.

That is all, can we now also touch tips? I’ll be in the sauna with countingbeans.

V

[quote]Vegita wrote:

To your first point, he is a personal trainer, I don’t see where it said he trains top athletes or strength competetors. It even said his reason for doing this was to better connect and understand his clients, so to him, he does care what sedentary people think. [/quote]

Gee, I acknowledged that by saying the only people who will care are fat people. No one who actually built their body up will…so you are now agreeing me?

[quote]

He didn’t do it for people like you, so for you to comment on how he looked prior doesn’t really make much sense.[/quote]

It makes perfect sense considering someone brought the article HERE for discussion. That means opinions will be stated, even some you may not agree with. Go figure.

[quote]

He most likley trains soccer moms and fat office workers, THEY would be impressed with his prior physique and probably even moreso if they see him get fat and then back to his old shape.[/quote]

Gee, that’s why I wrote that the only way this makes sense is if it helps you make more money. For anyone not in the public eye like this to do the same would be highly retarded.

[quote]

Imagine this scenario, you are at a lifting meet and a couple is sitting next to you, the guy is into it but the wife is not. A guy busts his ass and deadlifts 800 Lbs, the wife then leans over to the husband as says something like whats so great about that. You telling me you wouldn’t be put off by a comment like that? Well the guy may not have had your goals, but he most likley did put in a lot of hard work to get to his goals.[/quote]

Are we looking at the same pictures? He was SKINNY. It doesn’t take that much hard work to maintain muscles that size. Do you know what takes really hard work? maintaining muscles 3 times as big as that due to the sheer amount of scheduled feedings needed and the weight lifted. This guy doubtfully had to even bench much over 200lbs to look like that and staying lean simply meant avoiding food, not dieting like a bodybuilder.

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So while I retract my statement about you being disrespectful, it’s not the best word to describe it, you were poo pooing him.[/quote]

More like “foo fooing” him…because I find guys who want to actually look like those “heroin chic” models to be funny as hell…like poodles.

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Cant think of a better term so bear with me. I’m not saying you aren’t entitled to your opinion of the guy, or that it’s the wrong opinion, but it seems you are quick to discredit his achievements based on his goals and not based on how hard he worked to get there.

That is all, can we now also touch tips? I’ll be in the sauna with countingbeans.

V[/quote]

How hard did he work to maintain a body like that? He had to…with all of his might and all his inner being…put the burger down and avoid heavy weights? Yeah…sacrifice of the highest order.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:

To your first point, he is a personal trainer, I don’t see where it said he trains top athletes or strength competetors. It even said his reason for doing this was to better connect and understand his clients, so to him, he does care what sedentary people think.

Gee, I acknowledged that by saying the only people who will care are fat people. No one who actually built their body up will…so you are now agreeing me?

He didn’t do it for people like you, so for you to comment on how he looked prior doesn’t really make much sense.

It makes perfect sense considering someone brought the article HERE for discussion. That means opinions will be stated, even some you may not agree with. Go figure.

He most likley trains soccer moms and fat office workers, THEY would be impressed with his prior physique and probably even moreso if they see him get fat and then back to his old shape.

Gee, that’s why I wrote that the only way this makes sense is if it helps you make more money. For anyone not in the public eye like this to do the same would be highly retarded.

Imagine this scenario, you are at a lifting meet and a couple is sitting next to you, the guy is into it but the wife is not. A guy busts his ass and deadlifts 800 Lbs, the wife then leans over to the husband as says something like whats so great about that. You telling me you wouldn’t be put off by a comment like that? Well the guy may not have had your goals, but he most likley did put in a lot of hard work to get to his goals.

Are we looking at the same pictures? He was SKINNY. It doesn’t take that much hard work to maintain muscles that size. Do you know what takes really hard work? maintaining muscles 3 times as big as that due to the sheer amount of scheduled feedings needed and the weight lifted. This guy doubtfully had to even bench much over 200lbs to look like that and staying lean simply meant avoiding food, not dieting like a bodybuilder.

So while I retract my statement about you being disrespectful, it’s not the best word to describe it, you were poo pooing him.

More like “foo fooing” him…because I find guys who want to actually look like those “heroin chic” models to be funny as hell…like poodles.

Cant think of a better term so bear with me. I’m not saying you aren’t entitled to your opinion of the guy, or that it’s the wrong opinion, but it seems you are quick to discredit his achievements based on his goals and not based on how hard he worked to get there.

That is all, can we now also touch tips? I’ll be in the sauna with countingbeans.

V

How hard did he work to maintain a body like that? He had to…with all of his might and all his inner being…put the burger down and avoid heavy weights? Yeah…sacrifice of the highest order.[/quote]

Well seeing as how we are both assuming we know how hard he worked we are both talking out of our asses. I will try to find his workout logs or training routines or something to see how hard he worked. And you speak of avoiding a burger like it is easy. LOL discipline with your diet is a very big hurdle for most people weather it’s calorie restrictive or calorie excessive. Sticking to a set meal plan is no harder if you have to eat 6 meals at 6,000 calories than it is if you have to eat 6 meals at 2,500 calories. Of course I know you think and have stated before how much work it is to wipe your ass multiple times a day because of how much you shit on a big diet, so I guess technically it is harder, but not much.

Do I think he was skinny, yes of course he was, he was 2 inches taller than I am and 20lbs lighter. Sure it’s skinny, but do I care that he was skinny? no why the hell would I care? You care.

V

[quote]Vegita wrote:

Well seeing as how we are both assuming we know how hard he worked we are both talking out of our asses. I will try to find his workout logs or training routines or something to see how hard he worked. And you speak of avoiding a burger like it is easy. LOL discipline with your diet is a very big hurdle for most people weather it’s calorie restrictive or calorie excessive. Sticking to a set meal plan is no harder if you have to eat 6 meals at 6,000 calories than it is if you have to eat 6 meals at 2,500 calories. Of course I know you think and have stated before how much work it is to wipe your ass multiple times a day because of how much you shit on a big diet, so I guess technically it is harder, but not much.

Do I think he was skinny, yes of course he was, he was 2 inches taller than I am and 20lbs lighter. Sure it’s skinny, but do I care that he was skinny? no why the hell would I care? You care.

V[/quote]

Brotha please, one thing I know for a fact that it is EASIER for someone to maintain a smaller physique (ripped or not) at well under 200lbs (shit, he’s probably under 170 in those pics) at average height than it is for someone to maintain a ripped physique carrying 30lbs or more than that.

There is no debate there. This guy never experienced needing POUNDS of meat everyday to maintain his body weight or to lose so why would you think it is comparable to someone much more muscular? It isn’t.

Also you didn’t say if we could touch tips or not? I really want to know. K Thanks,

V

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:

Well seeing as how we are both assuming we know how hard he worked we are both talking out of our asses. I will try to find his workout logs or training routines or something to see how hard he worked. And you speak of avoiding a burger like it is easy. LOL discipline with your diet is a very big hurdle for most people weather it’s calorie restrictive or calorie excessive. Sticking to a set meal plan is no harder if you have to eat 6 meals at 6,000 calories than it is if you have to eat 6 meals at 2,500 calories. Of course I know you think and have stated before how much work it is to wipe your ass multiple times a day because of how much you shit on a big diet, so I guess technically it is harder, but not much.

Do I think he was skinny, yes of course he was, he was 2 inches taller than I am and 20lbs lighter. Sure it’s skinny, but do I care that he was skinny? no why the hell would I care? You care.

V

Brotha please, one thing I know for a fact that it is EASIER for someone to maintain a smaller physique (ripped or not) at well under 200lbs (shit, he’s probably under 170 in those pics) at average height than it is for someone to maintain a ripped physique carrying 30lbs or more than that.

There is no debate there. This guy never experienced needing POUNDS of meat everyday to maintain his body weight or to lose so why would you think it is comparable to someone much more muscular? It isn’t.[/quote]

How much easier? 1% easier? 5% easier? 50% easier? I mean you used all caps on easier so I must assume at least 30% easier. (cue pink sarcasm font) In fact your use of caps has swayed my opinion over to your side. His prior physique is easy to get and a worthless chariacture of a skinny Metro fag who lives in his moms basement and doesn’t play sports because he might nick his manacure.

V

dude is tiny to begin with, i say getting fat is an improvement for him

[quote]Vegita wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Vegita wrote:

Well seeing as how we are both assuming we know how hard he worked we are both talking out of our asses. I will try to find his workout logs or training routines or something to see how hard he worked. And you speak of avoiding a burger like it is easy. LOL discipline with your diet is a very big hurdle for most people weather it’s calorie restrictive or calorie excessive. Sticking to a set meal plan is no harder if you have to eat 6 meals at 6,000 calories than it is if you have to eat 6 meals at 2,500 calories. Of course I know you think and have stated before how much work it is to wipe your ass multiple times a day because of how much you shit on a big diet, so I guess technically it is harder, but not much.

Do I think he was skinny, yes of course he was, he was 2 inches taller than I am and 20lbs lighter. Sure it’s skinny, but do I care that he was skinny? no why the hell would I care? You care.

V

Brotha please, one thing I know for a fact that it is EASIER for someone to maintain a smaller physique (ripped or not) at well under 200lbs (shit, he’s probably under 170 in those pics) at average height than it is for someone to maintain a ripped physique carrying 30lbs or more than that.

There is no debate there. This guy never experienced needing POUNDS of meat everyday to maintain his body weight or to lose so why would you think it is comparable to someone much more muscular? It isn’t.

How much easier? 1% easier? 5% easier? 50% easier? I mean you used all caps on easier so I must assume at least 30% easier. (cue pink sarcasm font) In fact your use of caps has swayed my opinion over to your side. His prior physique is easy to get and a worthless chariacture of a skinny Metro fag who lives in his moms basement and doesn’t play sports because he might nick his manacure.

V [/quote]

Glad we agree. Your arguments were pretty weak before your epiphany. Needing 3-5lbs of beef and fish to look like a pro when DIETING can not logically be easier than maintaining a smaller 165lbs physique on only 2,000cals a day. The effort in feeding alone makes it more difficult.

If you want to get into whether benching 400-500lbs is easier than “toning on a Bowflex”, start a new thread.

he didn’t even have a good body before just low body fat?