Flipcollar's Filosophies

I’ve decided to start a new thread outside of my log that outlines my history in the iron game, my competitive history in Strongman/powerlifting, my essential diet and training philosophies, and then open things up to questions from anyone about anything!

HISTORY/DEVELOPMENT:

I was 18 years old, and under 130 lbs at 5’11 when I started lifting weights. I had multiple teachers in high school who were concerned that I may have an eating disorder, because I was so thin. So when I finished high school, I decided I wanted to change that. I started working out with some friends at a local gym over the summer, but not regularly enough to make much progress. Then I got to college that fall, had access and time to go to the gym regularly, and I saw my first bit of progress. I had no idea what I was doing, but I stumbled on a few ‘right’ things that would shape how I approached the gym going forward. 1. I learned very quickly that eating enough would be my biggest hurdle. I ate pasta bowls and omelets at the school cafeteria constantly, and I tried to drink a gallon of milk a day. I managed over half a gallon pretty consistently for a long time. I also learned that pushing myself really, really hard in the gym was going to yield results. I had a training partner who did everything I did, but he just didn’t work as hard as I did, and the results spoke for themselves. In my first year of lifting, I put on a really solid 30 lbs. I went from shaking benching an empty bar my first time in the gym, to a 200 bench press in about a year. About a year into lifting, I discovered TNation, and that’s when I started running actual programs. CT was a big influence to start with. He was just arriving on the scene at that time, and I remember running one of his programs with my dad the summer between my first two years in college. Coaches like Jim Wendler, Dan John and John Meadows have also heavily influenced my training philosophies.

I was inconsistent over the next few years, but when I was 22-23, I began to really embrace the grind, and the pursuit of strength. Prior to this, I chased numbers on a few lifts, but it was really all driven by an aesthetic pursuit. In my early 20’s, I fell in love with the squat and the deadlift, and finally started making lower body progress. I loved the feeling of low-rep, heavy sets, the pressure of a squat that felt like it shouldn’t go up, and then does. It was incredibly satisfying.

I ran through a lot of different programs over the years, and eventually settled on 5/3/1 variations for awhile in my late 20’s. I believe this is when I really started making the progress I was looking for, and started putting up ‘respectable’ numbers. I really started to look like I lifted. My bodyweight continued to climb over the years, and I was approaching 200 lbs when I was 30.

30 is the year that changed things for me. My son was conceived, and I decided, on the very day I found out that I was going to have a child, that I would get into the best shape of my life, so that in a few years, he’d be able to tell his friends that he had a strong dad. This whole journey has been about him as much as myself.

A few months after this, I competed in my first strongman competition. I had NO idea what I was doing. I had to cut 10+ lbs of water weight to make weight at 175. So, I was a big lightweight. I was also very lean. I came in thinking that I HAD to be a force, based on my gym experiences. And I was crushed. I came in last place in 4/5 of the events. This experience led me to believe that strongman was clearly not for me. So, I moved on.

The next year, I got really damn strong. And I competed in my first and only powerlifting meet, where I hit an Elite raw total in sleeves. My squat was in the low 500’s, my bench was high 300’s, and my deadlift was just under 600. This was at a 181 bodyweight. But as cool as it was to have that immediate success, I didn’t feel that the sport was worth pursuing. I didn’t see anything to achieve between an elite total and a world record, and for me, I needed that tangible success. So, I gave strongman another shot.

My next show was better than the first. I found a strongman-oriented gym, and some awesome people to work with, and I learned a lot. I learned the concept that strength is a skill, something I didn’t previously understand. Later that year, I took 3rd place in Texas Strongest Man, as a middleweight. Things were improving quickly. 7 or 8 months later I won my first show. Then I won several more. This takes me to 2018, my best year competing. I believe I took 7th place at Strongman Nationals, which landed me an invite to a World Championship a few months later, where I took 4th. It was a whirlwind of success I never expected to have.

Since then, I’ve won a lot of shows, but have not been back on the biggest stages. In 2019 I was going to be competing in Australia in the Static monsters log press/deadlift championship, but I tore a pec muscle a month before the competition. I was back to full health and competing later that year. Then in April 2020, I was going to be competing for an Arnold invite… and we all know what happened that month. Fast forward, and I last competed this January. I took second to one of the best competitors in Lightweight strongmen in the country. The dude is amazing, and he narrowly edged me out. Currently I’m in rebuilding mode, trying to once again get in the best shape of my life, at 38, so I can hold my own with all the young blood in the sport.

My next post will address my current diet and training philosophies, what I feel are the universal truths in weightlifting.

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DIET/TRAINING:

I will start by saying I eat more carbs than you do. I believe very strongly in the benefits of being well-acclimated to a high carb diet. It may not be for everyone, but at my strongest and leanest, I was eating in excess of 700 carbs daily. Eating this way, I don’t have to eat a ton of protein. The gram-per-pound of bodyweight thing is probably the MOST protein I was eating in a day. Usually I would come up well short of this. And I don’t track fats. I still drink a lot of whole milk, and consume a decent amount of red meat. When I cook I am liberal with butter/oils.

I know a lot of people disagree with this, and thrive on high protein/low carb diets. I know that can work. But almost every elite strength athlete I’ve talked to has embraced a relatively high carb diet for performance.

To this end, I have been using Plazma to fuel all my workouts for quite a few years now. And I can say, without hesitation, it’s an amazing product. But after a long conversation with Tim Patterson yesterday, I’ll be switching to Surge Workout Fuel. Tim swears by the product, and I trust the science behind the formula.

As far as training goes, I have very few ‘things’ that I think are absolutely essential.

  1. Effort and consistency will take you further than anything else. I learned this when I looked back on my earliest training. My training templates were absolute garbage! I had no idea what I was doing in the gym. My exercise selections were ridiculous, I had no idea how to program sets/reps… and yet I made some of the best progress of my lifting career. This is why I’ll never say X Y or Z program is the best program to run. And when I see a young lifter struggling to make gains, I rarely believe it is a problem with programming. It usually comes down to diet, consistency, or effort.

  2. Pick a program/pursuit that mentally suits you. I learned early on that I would never be a competitive bodybuilder, even though genetically I may be more predisposed to that pursuit. The training just felt too tedious, and that wasn’t how I wanted to spend my time in the gym. I’ve always made the most progress when I’m doing things I enjoy doing. It keeps me coming to the gym regularly, working hard when I’m there, and eating to support growth. The grind is real, especially when you’ve been at it a long time and have lofty goals. If you don’t feel driven to get back to the gym over and over again, you won’t do it. Either the goal has to be worth the effort, or the effort has to be overwhelmingly enjoyable.

That’s really it for me in those two respects. Work had, work often, work towards a goal that’s meaningful to YOU, and eat to support your goals.

There are obviously more nuanced things that I have opinions on, such as injury avoidance, how to perform certain movements optimally, how often to train, how to periodize training, etc. But all of those things fall into the non-essential categories, and really apply more to advanced lifters. They are also questions that are individually answered, in context. I wanted to orient this posts towards newer lifters, in a very general way. So now, I will open up the thread to questions! Anything you want to know, feel free to ask.

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Interesting that our two member-coaches have come to opposite conclusions on this. All roads lead to Rome, I guess.

Great post, btw

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I think Flip and I are actually on the same page here. I constantly tell people that, if you CAN thrive on a high carb intake, you SHOULD make use of it. Some folks feel awesome high carb and lower fat, and others are the opposite.

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I appreciate you pointing this out. As pwn suggested, there is nuance here. I believe in the process and maintenance of acclimation to a high carb diet, but that’s not synonymous with ‘everyone should eat high carbs right now’. If your body is acclimated to low carbs and high protein, tripling your carb intake overnight will almost certainly lead to fat gain. It’s not a good idea. I was fortunate in that I grew up eating a ton of carbs, and my body has thus always responded well. Over time, as I increased calories overall, I continued to increase my carbs, and that’s why I can eat the way I do. I’ve always avoided low carb diets, even when trying to lose fat, because I don’t want to lose that tolerance I’ve built over decades. But as you point out, there is no 'one right answer ’ that fits everyone all the time.

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First of all, thanks for making this thread!

I find this idea of nutrient tolerance particularly interesting. Would you mind expanding more on that? How has it has played out in your experience? Was there ever a time when you tried low carb and found you had to regain your ability to handle your traditional high carb diet?

Also, long-time poster here who is timidly “returning” because I don’t feel like I’m on the same level as you or @T3hPwnisher. I was more at home on the Biotest forums and in past iterations of the Supplements & Nutrition forum, so that’s where I’ll be. Haha

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Super cool post!

When did we get member coaches? Is this new or I’m just late?

Yesterday! I got the call yesterday evening around 7pm. You’re definitely not late to the party.

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No, this really falls into the ‘if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it’ category. I recognized a long time ago that my metabolism and ability to stay very lean was extremely unusual, and I also recognized that my high carb low protein diet was the biggest thing that went against the grain of everything i was reading. So I’ve stayed committed to preserving that. I have certainly reduced carbs to shed additional bodyfat at times, but that’s mostly just been through eliminating junk food rather than ‘whole’ carbs. When I’ve been at my very leanest, I’ve done so by reducing my milk consumption, since milk has a lot of sugar, and eliminating pop tarts, haha. That’s usually sufficient to make the difference I’m looking for.

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Awesome post, I hope to learn a lot from your experiences.

I was pretty much the same as you, it just took me a little longer to decide to really make a change. 125lb @ 5ft 10" in my late twenties was never a good look.

I just wanted to make a couple of comments on the points you made.

  1. Effort and consistency
    Even now in what you could call my infancy compared to you, the more books I absorb, the more mistakes I make, it’s crazy to think about the garbage I used to do. How I continued to turn up to the gym and not get seriously injured is a mystery to me. My drive to gain weight and get stronger back then has made discipline these days easy. But as you say, you still made gains, I still made gains. I like how Dan John says in Never Let Go probably a dozen times “everything works…for 6 weeks”. Even as a beginner I felt that - be it my joints wanting to ping off my body or my digestive system falling apart after my 10th tablespoon of peanut butter.

  2. Pick a program/pursuit that mentally suits you.
    Too many people at my local gym seem to change these things more than the British weather. Not just that but they will do the thing that their mate is wanting to do, or think they need to do as many days or exercises as that big dude over there. I hear “I hate leg day” at least once a week, usually from the same people… - stop having a ****ing leg day then. I learned very early on that doing things like pairing Squats with Bench Press was infinitely more suitable for me (and was stoked when I recently read about the Modified Hatfield Split here). Same with the people who say they hate deadlifts and do nothing but moan about them - get on with it, find a hip hinge you do enjoy or stop using a weight at an intensity that makes you want to kill yourself. I only wish I could’ve told myself that a bit earlier. These problems don’t bother me any more, if i’m not enjoying it then I have to question why the hell i’m even bothering at this point.

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Can’t argue with that, especially when Pop Tarts are involved.

Thanks!

I kind of wish this thread was titled “Flipcollar’s Fliposophies” but I am content with being able to read your training mentality and history regardless :upside_down_face:

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Interesting thread. Just curious, do all carbs treat you relatively the same or do you have some that you prefer or tolerate better than others?

Wonderful question!

So if I were ever to adhere strictly to a specific type of diet, it would be the vertical diet. It’s centered around a lot of white rice, red meat, and vegetables. When you need to eat more calories, eat more rice. Eat less rice to lean out. It’s so simple, and so effective. I think for athletes, it’s the best diet template out there. Especially as I get older, digestive health matters more and more. You can’t train when you’re sick. If all you eat are these things, you’ll generally feel pretty damn good, and your body will be able to absorb the nutrients well. I can get away with a fair bit of junk, but it’s really more out of convenience than believing it’s the ‘best’ way to do things.

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Thanks for that. I’ve flirted with the Vertical Diet approach - even bought Stan’s book - but never committed to it. I think I’ll give it another shot.

Fantastic idea for a thread. You’ve been a consistent poster since you started, and your efforts clearly paid off. Thanks for sharing and congrats on your “member coach” promotion.

PS: Awwww, I don’t have a fun title? Come on, mods, I’ve been on these forums for nearly 20 years. Haha

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Impressive you were able to see big results post-kids. My experience was the opposite. I’m also a big fan of carbs and get all the markers of low T without them, but low fat / low protein is not something you hear everyday. Have you experimented with ultra high protein diets to see how your body responds? I’m not sure why - the calorie density, the nutrients, etc - but red meat seems to give me gains that chicken does not.

I’ve said this before, but I really think there’s an absolute component to protein intake. We tend to only look at it relative to consumption, but that doesn’t make intellectual sense to me if we consider its functions. So you’re on a “low protein” diet relative to your size and muscle mass because you’re jacked, but in reality that’s maybe pretty close to optimal anyway because you weren’t trying to hypertrophy your spleen or fingernails.

The degrees by which something shows significance in literature is also impossible to see in real life, but that’s another point.

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I remember seeing Stan Efferding promote this. It seems pretty solid TBH. The price tag on following it is the big downside IMO. I think he was grinding up ribeye steaks in the video I watched. A lb of ribeye is like 15-$20 these days. That would get expensive fast haha.

I do think for serious athletes it is a good approach though.

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Where do you live? When we were in Ohio (and we’re about to head back!) there were a couple farms where you could buy half a pig or a quarter cow. It spread your price per lbs over the cuts while the cheaper pieces (bacon/ ground/ etc.) improved in nutritional profile (these were grass-fed animals); so you aren’t eating ribeye every meal, but your hamburger ends up having a closer Omega 3 profile. I can’t tell you my labs improved, because I didn’t control all my food well enough to see anything like that, but the meat definitely tasted better than store bought. Plus it was just awesome to have a whole carcass in the freezer.

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