^That is so true i should do that more lol, i get to caught up trying to up the weight instead of reps.
The whole interview is great actually.
Cheers Mr. Popular.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
red04 wrote:
iwong wrote:
mr popular wrote:
browndisaster wrote:
Professor X wrote:
browndisaster wrote:
wow, before now I saw only a few pictures of Flex and was not impressed at all, to me he looked big/pumped
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Please explain this statement. I am confused.
Actually this was the one picture I saw; I thought he was a mass monster but didn’t think his physique was aesthetic at all. Pumped is a bad adjective, I meant to say I thought he lacked separation.
Flex Wheeler lacking separation = laughable
That is probably the worst picture I’ve ever seen of him. lol
Here he is in '99 in a lineup with Levrone and Ronnie (flex in the middle obviously).
Still gotta give it to Coleman in that pic. His chest is so damn big it eclipses the Ronnie gut. Sure, lighting and angles plays a part in that, but still.
Ronnie didn’t have a gut in 99, not even close.
Also, when someone weighs damn near 300lbs in contest shape, I am not sure it is even fair to claim they have a fucking GUT. Someone that big is not going to have a tiny waist of 30". Something like that wouldn’t even look right. I would be surprised someone weighing that much wouldn’t break in half if they didn’t have a thicker waist.
He had to eat small children to get that big yet people wanted his waist to look like it belonged on someone 100lbs less?
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Well he is standing next to flex who had an amazingly small waist. Yes flex is smaller overall, but its not a 100 pound difference.
[quote]iwong wrote:
Well he is standing next to flex who had an amazingly small waist. Yes flex is smaller overall, but its not a 100 pound difference.[/quote]
At most, Flex competed around 220-230lbs. Ronnie damn near broke the scale at his peak by hitting over 290lbs on stage. They aren’t even in the same area code. Coleman was a fucking brick wall with legs. Expecting that much mass to sit atop a tiny wasp waist is ridiculous. That’s like holding up the Titanic with two very well made toothpicks.
People were screaming for mass monsters…so he gave it to them…then they criticize the fact that mass monsters aren’t cute. Well shit, what did people expect 300lbs of muscle on a 5’11" frame to look like?
No one expects Silverback Gorillas to look like poodles.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
iwong wrote:
Well he is standing next to flex who had an amazingly small waist. Yes flex is smaller overall, but its not a 100 pound difference.
At most, Flex competed around 220-230lbs. Ronnie damn near broke the scale at his peak by hitting over 290lbs on stage. They aren’t even in the same area code. Coleman was a fucking brick wall with legs. Expecting that much mass to sit atop a tiny wasp waist is ridiculous. That’s like holding up the Titanic with two very well made toothpicks.
People were screaming for mass monsters…so he gave it to them…then they criticize the fact that mass monsters aren’t cute. Well shit, what did people expect 300lbs of muscle on a 5’11" frame to look like?
No one expects Silverback Gorillas to look like poodles.[/quote]
In the picture above Ronnie is what, 250-260ish? I think people forget that he actually had as small of a waist as the other guys when he was around the same weight as them. It would nice if there was a front lat spread or double bi of the three of them from the same night to see how tapered Ronnie’s frame actually was. Flex may have had a more dramatic taper but it was no fluke that Ron won that night, or any of the other nights save for a few extremely close calls.
Ron, Flex, Kevin comparison:
[quote]mr popular wrote:
Ron, Flex, Kevin comparison:
Judging BB comps are subjective and I disagreed with the judges on that one, Flex has a great physique with a balance of shape and mass. Flex looks like a super action hero from a cartoon.
Anyone know which year that video is from?
'99
Ronnie looks bigger in that video with about the same waist size, I think the difference in back size is the most noticable, though he’s a bit bigger everywhere.
Whatever happened to his brother, Robert Gibbs? In one of the videos from 1997, he claimed to have been bodybuilding since he was 12, claimed to weigh 220 and Flex said he was all natural. Appeared to be about 20 years old or maybe younger.
Besides the video I haven’t been able to find anything else about his brother. I guess he never went competitive?
I really like this posing routine, looks damn good.
A more complete video for comparison:
And I thought this was very sweet lol:
On a sidenote, all the 130lb synthol experts on the internet annoy me to no end.
He simply MUST have used synthol on his delts, biceps, and … glutes, apparently?
And because he is a BLACK GUY, he simply MUST have gotten calf implants.
People truly love to tear down anyone who they see as mocking them simply by the merit of their own success.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
iwong wrote:
Well he is standing next to flex who had an amazingly small waist. Yes flex is smaller overall, but its not a 100 pound difference.
At most, Flex competed around 220-230lbs. Ronnie damn near broke the scale at his peak by hitting over 290lbs on stage. They aren’t even in the same area code. Coleman was a fucking brick wall with legs. Expecting that much mass to sit atop a tiny wasp waist is ridiculous. That’s like holding up the Titanic with two very well made toothpicks.
People were screaming for mass monsters…so he gave it to them…then they criticize the fact that mass monsters aren’t cute. Well shit, what did people expect 300lbs of muscle on a 5’11" frame to look like?
No one expects Silverback Gorillas to look like poodles.[/quote]
LOL! True, but I don’t think it was Ronnie’s gut SIZE that was the issue as much as it was his seemingly apparent lack of control of his gut on stage. Often he appeared to let his gut relax, while someone like Flex seemed to be in control of his at all times.
An aside: Barring the trends in bodybuilding criteria over he last 3 decades, while assuming we’re presently in a more classic (and sane) standard, I’d venture to say that if Flex Wheeler took the Olympia stage this year in the condition he was in at his prime, he’d win… IMHO.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Professor X wrote:
iwong wrote:
Well he is standing next to flex who had an amazingly small waist. Yes flex is smaller overall, but its not a 100 pound difference.
At most, Flex competed around 220-230lbs. Ronnie damn near broke the scale at his peak by hitting over 290lbs on stage. They aren’t even in the same area code. Coleman was a fucking brick wall with legs. Expecting that much mass to sit atop a tiny wasp waist is ridiculous. That’s like holding up the Titanic with two very well made toothpicks.
People were screaming for mass monsters…so he gave it to them…then they criticize the fact that mass monsters aren’t cute. Well shit, what did people expect 300lbs of muscle on a 5’11" frame to look like?
No one expects Silverback Gorillas to look like poodles.
LOL! True, but I don’t think it was Ronnie’s gut SIZE that was the issue as much as it was his seemingly apparent lack of control of his gut on stage. Often he appeared to let his gut relax, while someone like Flex seemed to be in control of his at all times.
An aside: Barring the trends in bodybuilding criteria over he last 3 decades, while assuming we’re presently in a more classic (and sane) standard, I’d venture to say that if Flex Wheeler took the Olympia stage this year in the condition he was in at his prime, he’d win… IMHO.
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I agree. I also think we needed to go through that period of “mass monsters” because people needed to see what the upper limits are. Sure, there may one day be someone who can compete around 350lbs, but the truth is, unless they were like 6’5", they wouldn’t be very aesthetic simply because your waist has to grow to some degree to maintain that level of weight and size. We hit an “aesthetic wall” to some degree.
However, I doubt we will ever go back to “200lbs Olympia winners”. I personally don’t even want to see that.
Flex and Kevin were awesome!
My goal is to look like Flex and/or Kevin when they were De-trained. It would be a vast improvement from where I am now.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
… Sure, there may one day be someone who can compete around 350lbs,
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But do you realize how un-functional they would be?? It’s maddening!!
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
My goal is to look like Flex and/or Kevin when they were De-trained. It would be a vast improvement from where I am now.
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Ah now i’m sure you can do better… at least 1/10 of the way trained 