[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You accept compensation. And would not do what you do without such compensation.[/quote]
So the men and women in uniform don’t “help people” since they are compensated for their efforts? Man, it would really suck to be a National Guardsman around your area if everyone holds the same thought you do during natural disasters. That Tennessee River doesn’t ever overflow and require sandbagging? Do you just tell them to go home and “you got this”?
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Never asserted any such thing. You revel in forcing a burden on others, then claim credit for the product of that burden. I never mentioned the good or bad of any act.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You revel in forcing a burden on others[/quote]
Not “others” in a general sense, but more specifically, people that I regard as “whiny toolbags”, like Zeb. Man that guy sucks.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
What would qualify as a good deed under your conveniently narrow definition?[/quote]
Something that I would not do under normal circumstances. All I know is you have a decent paying government job, as far as I know I would do that. So what is it about your job that I would dislike?
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Something that I would not do under normal circumstances. [/quote]
Surely you have examples, right? Share the knowledge.
I get paid to force abortions on unsuspecting women and convene death panels for the senior citizens
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You revel in forcing a burden on others[/quote]
Not “others” in a general sense, but more specifically, people that I regard as “whiny toolbags”, like Zeb. Man that guy sucks. [/quote]
Whiny toolbags = people who actually voice their disapproval of your thievery ?
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You revel in forcing a burden on others[/quote]
Not “others” in a general sense, but more specifically, people that I regard as “whiny toolbags”, like Zeb. Man that guy sucks. [/quote]
If he is honest in all he does and talks about, he’s as much action as anyone. Though I’m not in his fan club.
I’d never wish coercion on anyone (unless to prevent coercion).
And you cannot think he sucks, and take pride in him paying your salary, unless of course you think you suck.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Something that I would not do under normal circumstances. [/quote]
Surely you have examples, right? Share the knowledge.
I get paid to force abortions on unsuspecting women and convene death panels for the senior citizens[/quote]
An example? Something if you remove the good deed aspect it would have a negative impact on your life. If you did this with your job you would still be working for money which is a positive aspect. If you did this at a soup kitchen you would be doing unnecessary work for nothing which is negative.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You revel in forcing a burden on others[/quote]
Not “others” in a general sense, but more specifically, people that I regard as “whiny toolbags”, like Zeb. Man that guy sucks. [/quote]
Whiny toolbags = people who actually voice their disapproval of your thievery ?[/quote]
This is a rather stupid post, since ZEB has not yet expressed disapproval of my thievery.
Though I would expect nothing less from you Maximillian 
The same guy that has stated that “nobody is making more in 2012 than they were in 2008” lol
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And you cannot think he sucks, and take pride in him paying your salary, unless of course you think you suck. [/quote]
I can always count on you to present unique thoughts on a matter.
So by that token are all the “worthless scum of the earth freeloading lazy welfare queens” that shop at business entrepreneurs responsible for making those job creators “worthless scum of the earth freeloading lazy welfare queens”? This game is fun!
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
An example? Something if you remove the good deed aspect it would have a negative impact on your life. [/quote]
You have spent 3 posts now providing general pie in the sky descriptions of what a good deed may or may not be. Surely you can provide at least one concrete example of a deed that meets your definition?
Or are you saying that if I did my job for free, it would be a good deed? Ok, cool. I don’t know many people doing their jobs for free though. Do good deeds not exist outside of someone’s profession?
One specific example of a good deed is all I’m asking for sufi. Preferably something you yourself have done since you are so willing to judge the help others offer.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And you cannot think he sucks, and take pride in him paying your salary, unless of course you think you suck. [/quote]
I can always count on you to present unique thoughts on a matter.
So by that token are all the “worthless scum of the earth freeloading lazy welfare queens” that shop at business entrepreneurs responsible for making those job creators “worthless scum of the earth freeloading lazy welfare queens”? This game is fun![/quote]
If they were to coerce the welfare folks to get the money, then correct, it wouldn’t be the entrepreneurs creating the jobs. Like the mafia.
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
An example? Something if you remove the good deed aspect it would have a negative impact on your life. [/quote]
You have spent 3 posts now providing general pie in the sky descriptions of what a good deed may or may not be. Surely you can provide at least one concrete example of a deed that meets your definition?
Or are you saying that if I did my job for free, it would be a good deed? Ok, cool. I don’t know many people doing their jobs for free though. Do good deeds not exist outside of someone’s profession?
One specific example of a good deed is all I’m asking for sufi. Preferably something you yourself have done since you are so willing to judge the help others offer.
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Working at a soup kitchen, I implied this on my last post.
I don’t know many people doing their jobs for free either which is why I am having a hard time understanding why you are so proud of your job when 100m+ people do their job for pay too. What makes you stand out from them?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
D:
I’ll let Pat speak for himself…but what I am agreeing with are the underlying PRINCIPALS of debate and compromise…as opposed to dictatorial edicts…
Believe me…I wouldn’t consider our current lawmakers worthy of changing a Founders bed pan. But those Founders knew that we would not always have people in Office whom were always looking out for what’s better for the Nation. That’s why they set things up the way they did.
Mufasa
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Mufasa - Understood. The country was founded on compromise. Unfortunately, the outcome of compromise is at the detriment of someone (think slavery at the time of the signing of the Constitution).
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
You revel in forcing a burden on others[/quote]
Not “others” in a general sense, but more specifically, people that I regard as “whiny toolbags”, like Zeb. Man that guy sucks. [/quote]
Whiny toolbags = people who actually voice their disapproval of your thievery ?[/quote]
This is a rather stupid post, since ZEB has not yet expressed disapproval of my thievery.
Though I would expect nothing less from you Maximillian
The same guy that has stated that “nobody is making more in 2012 than they were in 2008” lol
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Now I know why you’re making more, you’re a government leech. Did you vote for Obama with both hands out ?
[quote]pat wrote:
The legislative process worked as designed.
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No doubt.
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I think a lot of people put the early Americans on a pedestal. There was bad legislation in the olden days to, Alien and Sedition act anyone? [/quote]
I can’t help but to think they actually read legislation before they voted on it
They got a bunch of stuff wrong (see: slavery) but in the end, the US was created and rolls on. Did the ends justify the means (compromise and legislative process)? I guess that depends on who you ask…
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Do you help these people on your free time, or is it part of a job you are paid for? It only counts a good deed if it would not be done by someone else.[/quote]
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Soup kitchens turn volunteers away all the time–they literally have people lining up to help at certain times of the year.
Surely you can provide at least one concrete example of a deed that meets your definition?[/quote]
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Working at a soup kitchen, I implied this on my last post.
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You and I obviously have different interpretations of what “if it would not be done by someone else” actually means.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Now I know why you’re making more, you’re a government leech. Did you vote for Obama with both hands out ?[/quote]
LOLOL I would be making more regardless of who signed my fucking paychecks, because unlike you Maxi-pad, I have an iota of talent and drive and don’t just sit around sulking about how unfair life is.
The real question is that since you obviously aren’t a job creator, and you certainly aren’t making more than $400k/year, why on Earth are you so adamantly against the Democratic party? It’s not YOUR money they are taking and handing out LOL
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Do you help these people on your free time, or is it part of a job you are paid for? It only counts a good deed if it would not be done by someone else.[/quote]
[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Soup kitchens turn volunteers away all the time–they literally have people lining up to help at certain times of the year.
Surely you can provide at least one concrete example of a deed that meets your definition?[/quote]
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Working at a soup kitchen, I implied this on my last post.
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You and I obviously have different interpretations of what “if it would not be done by someone else” actually means.
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Could you please explain why your job is such a good deed? Using my definition below.
“Something if you remove the good deed aspect it would have a negative impact on your life.”
Quoting anything else I said is simply avoiding the question.
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Could you please explain why your job is such a good deed? [/quote]
No
[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Could you please explain why your job is such a good deed? [/quote]
Why would I be expected to do that since I never referred to my line of work as doing a good deed?
To that point:
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…Using my definition below.
“Something if you remove the good deed aspect it would have a negative impact on your life.”
Quoting anything else I said is simply avoiding the question.[/quote]
Why would you expect someone to keep trying to provide an example of something, when the definition of that “something” changes with each post? You have gone from “nobody else will do it” to “it would have a negative impact on your life”.
You know what they call that sufi? Moving the goalposts. It is a little game I’m not too enthusiastic about playing with you. You keep asking me to kick the football, then moving the football as I’m about ready to deliver a swift firm kick to its previous location. Sorry Lucy, that ain’t for me.