Forgot the most important - if you beat him up, it should be in private so that nobody knows, that way he learns that he can’t actually beat you, and he doesn’t lose his reputation. Then you can hold that over him “don’t be a jerk or I’ll let everyone know”.
Alternatively, you can tell him in private, that if it comes to a fight, it will be in front of everyone and he’ll get the snot beaten out of him, and look like an idiot. If you tell him this in private then he doesn’t lose public face but he might realise he risks losing face.
This is just another approach. The key points being he wants public recognition of being a badass, and he sees fighting YOU as earning that. OR at least, picking on you. If he realises that instead it would result in everyone realising he was a whimp, then he wouldn’t be pursuing it. But of course he might turn on someone else.
Use your brain to defeat this problem. Fists are a last resort, and I see that many posters here talk a lot of immature shit, probably to be funny… which is good, but I have a feeling that you aren’t bullshitting us with this thread.
There are ways to avoid having to fuck this poor kid’s face up.
[quote]bigblue244 wrote:
your problem is very true and relevant. being in college now, like posted earlier, it only gets worse. everyone drinks and grows a set of beer balls and think they are tough shit. its awful too when you go to a rich school with all these popped collars running around talking shit and you can’t do anything because they’re daddy will sue you to death. growing up i was always the smallest kid and used to get bullied/picked on all the time. i started lifted when i was 14 and took fighting classes with my uncle (he’s a professional MMA fighter…could have been really really good but started way too late, he’s 45 http://www.usmma.org/fighters/joe_campanella.htm
he’s supposedly fighting in King of the Cage on June 17th on PPV, but his elbow has been bothering him).
anyways, when i was 4 years ago when i was 15 me and my buddies were fooling around in one of their backyards, like backyard boxing and shit. this douchebag that wanted to fight me shows up and says hes goin to whoop my ass (no gloves or head-gear). it wasn’t the first time someone tried to fight me or the first fight i had ever been in but i didn’t want to. he tried pushing me and shit and ripped the tank top i was wearing when trying to throw me on the ground. he wouldn’t get out of my face. finally i had enough and i sucker punched him and knocked him out (not with the punch, he fell and i kneed him in the head after).
it was all on video-taped but the whole fight was lost. my buddy had the last punch in a clip on his computer though because he was “making a stupid video at the time.” about 2 months ago he emails me this corny ass video that he edited as a highlight type thing and sent it into Break.com and won $100 (i didn’t see a penny from it…haha). anyways here is the corny ass video, it’s funny as hell though. but this is my recommendation for a punk like the kid you are talking about. i just loaded the clip on youtube for your enjoyment/laughter.
and yes i am half arab, hence the whole arab hulk thing. i am also half italian and look it thank God. i usually deny my arabness but will not in this case for the sake of clarity…
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I am curious, why do you deny your arabness? funny ass video btw haha :).
[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
I remember those days of high school and don’t miss them as all. The only thing I really have to tell you is to stay away from them and all their bs and continue to improve yourself. After high school I cut off almost everyone I knew who was toxic.
As far as the fight, simply refuse. If he hits first and you drop him oh well. Make sure others see him hit first, and your father can’t be angry at you for defending yourself. If you were to start the fight, you would be as bad as those you don’t wanna be. [/quote]
But if he has a bruise, he gets in trouble. If he lets the other kid throw first, he’ll probably get a bruise. However, if he hits first and fucks the kid up, he probably won’t get any bruises at all.
I saw, if he says he wants to fight, you say ‘come on’. If he comes on, you smack the crap out of him.
If you dad gives you grief and then beats you up (oh the irony) just ask him if he really wants you to stand there and take it and be embarassed in front of everyone who’s there. You have to stand up for yourself and not just in school, in life. You’re better off learning that now.
[quote]BoxBabaX wrote:
bigblue244 wrote:
your problem is very true and relevant. being in college now, like posted earlier, it only gets worse. everyone drinks and grows a set of beer balls and think they are tough shit. its awful too when you go to a rich school with all these popped collars running around talking shit and you can’t do anything because they’re daddy will sue you to death. growing up i was always the smallest kid and used to get bullied/picked on all the time. i started lifted when i was 14 and took fighting classes with my uncle (he’s a professional MMA fighter…could have been really really good but started way too late, he’s 45 http://www.usmma.org/fighters/joe_campanella.htm
he’s supposedly fighting in King of the Cage on June 17th on PPV, but his elbow has been bothering him).
anyways, when i was 4 years ago when i was 15 me and my buddies were fooling around in one of their backyards, like backyard boxing and shit. this douchebag that wanted to fight me shows up and says hes goin to whoop my ass (no gloves or head-gear). it wasn’t the first time someone tried to fight me or the first fight i had ever been in but i didn’t want to. he tried pushing me and shit and ripped the tank top i was wearing when trying to throw me on the ground. he wouldn’t get out of my face. finally i had enough and i sucker punched him and knocked him out (not with the punch, he fell and i kneed him in the head after).
it was all on video-taped but the whole fight was lost. my buddy had the last punch in a clip on his computer though because he was “making a stupid video at the time.” about 2 months ago he emails me this corny ass video that he edited as a highlight type thing and sent it into Break.com and won $100 (i didn’t see a penny from it…haha). anyways here is the corny ass video, it’s funny as hell though. but this is my recommendation for a punk like the kid you are talking about. i just loaded the clip on youtube for your enjoyment/laughter.
and yes i am half arab, hence the whole arab hulk thing. i am also half italian and look it thank God. i usually deny my arabness but will not in this case for the sake of clarity…
I am curious, why do you deny your arabness? funny ass video btw haha :).[/quote]
haha thanks bro. it’s even funnier looking back on it how immature and ridiculous i was.
o yea and the whole arab thing is sort of a joke, too. my mom, who is the most beautiful woman i know, is arab and my dad is italian so i always tell her that i’m not arab to get her mad. plus after the whole 9/11 thing…
[quote]bigblue244 wrote:
my mom, who is the most beautiful woman i know…[/quote]
That is harsh; I don’t know how to interpret this. Aside from the obvious incestuous overtone, I am assuming you have never known Rockscar’s HOT WIFE then.
Ah, this brings back memories… Used to fight all the time in school and after school. Remember throwing his bike at some guy, heh
Anyhow, a lot depends on your experience with fighting. I have seen so many people fight in a stupid, inefficient way that probably hurts them more than the opponent. When in college I had kickboxing classes, never a bruise or anything and we had proper contact fights. Why? Because you block and evade and watch yourself. If you know how to fight you won’t have any bruises
Put your whole body in your hits, not just the arm or the leg. Aim where the opponent isn’t blocking, try to hurt areas that do hurt. I’d suggest watching some fight videos and learn from the pros
But all of that is for the fight itself, which you actually should avoid. Because it’s still easy to get some stupid injury that might stay for your entire life (like teeth)
Ok this is a tricky one b/c you could save yourself, but make yourself look like a bitch. Go to the principal and tell him what?s going on. Ask him not to confront the other kid. Just let him know what is going on, so if a fight does occur and you have to defend yourself you have kinda covered your ass. Like I said it?s tricky, but at least if a fight occurs the principal knows that you are not the one starting a fight.[/quote]
I second that - that’s what teachers and principals are there for. Keeping stumm makes bullies win - as you tacitly accept their rule. The “no ratting” policy is nothing but crap. If it all goes tits up and you end up being attacked, you’ll have some backing.
[quote]lothario1132 wrote:
Magarhe is wise. Listen.
Use your brain to defeat this problem. Fists are a last resort, and I see that many posters here talk a lot of immature shit, probably to be funny… which is good, but I have a feeling that you aren’t bullshitting us with this thread.
There are ways to avoid having to fuck this poor kid’s face up.[/quote]
haha thanks for that lothario wish I was wise when young though
Really, you gotta realise, this kid, HE IS A KID, a frikking’ kid, how old is he? what 15 or something? and little too. and he really prob. is pissed off that he is still little when everyone around him is bigger. god knows what else is going through his mind. you gotta work out what he wants, i reckon it is street cred, in fact he’d probably very unlikely start a fight with you.
in fact prob. just a nod at him that looks like you acknowledge him would do it
I mean, 15, 2 years ago he was 13, 5 years ago he was a ten year old.
[quote]BlakedaMan wrote:
Ok, so I’m 15 years old and a sophmore in high school. Kid’s my age are so f*cking dumb. They are willing to fight you for looking at them wrong. They don’t give a shit about anyon or anything. They fail in every class. And don’t care enough even about themselves to do anything active or healthy, they just smoke fucking joints all day.
So to my story. This kid my age who is like 5’4" and like 110 pounds at most, thinks he can fucking kick my ass. I’m 5’10" and 150 Pounds. I am way more built then him and way stronger. The problem here is that my dad found out he wants to fight me and said if I come home with even a little bruise that shouldn’t be there, he’ll ground me for 6 months and personally beat my ass. Now, I can’t just say that to his face because everyone would laugh there asses off at me and I would be the biggest pussy ever to them. I don’t really care what people think, but kids at my school will seriously not talk to me and my friends will follow them. I’m not scared of him at all because I know he has no chance, but I can’t because my dad.
So what should I do? Please help.[/quote]
I had the same experience when I was in school. This kid was shorter than me and tried to act like a bully. I let it go the first year or so because I wanted to concentrate on playing football and not get in trouble. The second year he tried out for the football team and durring practice we had a drill and had to go up against on another. I had to run the ball and he was supposed to tackle me. I took out all my frustration on him, I lowered my helmet and planted him when he tried to tackle me. I walked away laughing while he laid there for a minute.
Then the coaches had us change positions, this time I had to tackle him. When he came at me with the ball I used all of my pent up frustration and drilled him as hard as I could and slammed him to the ground. When I slammed him he discolated his shoulder and wound up crying right there in the middle of the ball field.
I have never felt so much joy in my life and if I had the chance I would do it all over again.
After that I never had another problem out of him. He would literally walk on the other side of the hallway durring class changes.
[quote]jtrinsey wrote:
On a side note, am I the only one in the history of T-Nation that has gotten my ass beat in a fight? I’m beginning to think so…[/quote]
Nah. I got swarmed by a local Vietnamiese street gang once, when I was working as a bouncer. If the guys hadn’t been there to back me up, I’d have been clay on a slab. Took a good beating that day. The only thing that saved my ass was that after the first few shots and letting go of the kid I had a hold of, I ducked into a boxing crouch and stayed on my feet – if I’d let them take me down they’d have ground me to hamburger.
Still ended up with a concussion, a 1" strip of flesh peeled from my jaw, lumps and bruises all over, and a couple cracked ribs.
Here’s the deal - don’t start the fight but by all means finish it if need be.
I was talking to my son one day last year (he’s your age) and he mentioned that there were a couple of kids in his class picking on him but that he didn’t beat them up. The interesting thing is he’s a big kid for his age and he’s strong because he’s on a competitive swim team (works out 6 days a week). He held back because I don’t condone fights either. However, I told him that if someone is messing with you then you should do what you can to avoid a fight but (and this is a big but) don’t let it get out of hand. Either go to the teacher or beat the crap out of the kid. The thing is my son is a little bigger than you (6’ and 165 lbs) and the kids messing with him were about 125 lbs and probably don’t workout.
In the end he had to beat the crap out of one of them. I think what happens is that a lot of kids that are bullies in elementary school are not necessarily the biggest and/or strongest in high school. But they figure it out quickly.
I told my boy that I don’t want him to make fighting a habit. As it turns out everyone at the school knows about the fight and that won’t be a problem.
Just wear a Bruce Lee t-shirt. People don’t mess with Bruce Lee
SURGEON GENERAL’S WARNING:
Wearing a Bruce Lee T-shirt DOES NOT PREVENT Pregnancy, Heart Disease, Erectional Dysfuction, OR GETTING THE CRAP KICKED OUTTA YA!
As some other people here were saying, next time the emo kids get in your face, don’t back down. Stand tall, meet them eye to eye and appear like you geniunely are confident of the fact that you could layeth the smack down. Talk the talk and if he chooses to bite, walk the walk.
I doubt these idiot will actually pull knives but if they do, smash them with whatever means nessecary.