She plays some JV (doesn’t start) at medium size, state championship caliber HS. Nice story, I guess.
She’s 5’9" and 300. She won’t be growing much more. If you saw the special on her on ESPN, you’d see that she needs a lot of work. She will hit you though.
College football is highly unlikely for her, including JUCO
[quote]jjoseph_x wrote:
tpa wrote:
But what there are girls who are great at a given sport and the other girls in the highscool all suck and these girls as good as the boys or better?
For example there’s a woman who play college ball who’s 6’4" and can dunk pretty well (I think she even won the dunk competition at the McDonald’s All-American game… she shouldn’t have, but it was still a nice dunk). If she went to my highschool, she better than most of the guys on the Basketball team.
She’d probably want to play with the guys just for the sake of having a challenge.
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I’m pretty sure that all of the guys at the McDonald’s All-American Game were way better than the rest of the guys in their league as well.
So what do they do? They find better MALE players to play against. I’m sure there are plenty of women on NCAA teams and in the WNBA that are way better than this girl. Can’t she play on her high school team and play for a club team?
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Very true. But if any woman is capable of playing at that level, my bets are on this girl. Very tough. I wish her all the best.
Maybe it’s just me, but I would think that some female kicker out there has a much better shot at the NFL than this girl does. Whatever the case, this girl has ZERO shot, due to her position. A female will NEVER, EVER play in the NFL as an interior lineman.
Also, her views may be tinted a little bit since her brother is Nick Mangold, starting center for the New York Jets.
So to her, making the NFL might not be that big a deal since her brother made it. She may not realize just how incredible it is that her brother has made it, and thinks “he did it, so can I.”[/quote]
Probably. It sure as hell is damned unlikely if not impossible. But ‘impossble’ things have happened on occasion before.
Even if she somehow becomes good enough, she won’t get a shot. No team is going to want to deal with all the things that would come along with having her on the team: media, safety, lockerroom issues, team chemistry, etc.
[quote]BigHog wrote:
I wish my sport sociology class didn’t end a week ago. This article would have brought up so many arguments. I argued about guys competing in girl sports so much that I almost tried out for varisty women’s volleyball because our school doesn’t have a men’s team, just to make a point. I almsot wish I would have… would any of you guys support me if I did?[/quote]
Not me! I won’t be your athletic supporter!
Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see any part in there that said she thought she could play in the NFL. I just read that there is a girl that likes to play football.
shes hot
she runs a 5 flat 40… thats 5 min!
[quote]tpa wrote:
I’m not against allowing athletes to compete at a higher level. I’m saying they should find a higher level of competition within their own gender.
Like I said earlier. If a girl is a great soccer player, why does she have to play with boys? Why doesn’t she play against better girls? There are many club teams, women’s leagues, etc. that could provide a higher level of competition for gifted athletes.
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You make a good point about the idea of her finding a way to play on a better team with people with her own sex and that might be a good compromise. But since we are kind of debating hypotheticals anyway (since she isn’t playing in the NFL), what IF she was by far the best female football player out there, do you think she should be allowed to try out for the NFL?
I know there was a big issue when the best women’s golfer played on the male tour for a round or two, although I do think contact sports raise another level.
[quote]Bootsie wrote:
also, mert, where did you get those numbers on college and nfl squats. From what ive witnessed i would say most D1 college players squat over 500 raw?[/quote]
Just FYI the NSCA lists average squats of D1 football players in their textbook (pg 309). They are as follows
O line 531
D line 502
Linebacker 476
O Back 471
TE 464
DB 415
WR 390
QB 379
Another FYI the starters weights on most lifts were usually about 10% higher than the non-starters
Love to see her play High School ball down here in Dade County.
[quote]GaMeOvEr305 wrote:
Love to see her play High School ball down here in Dade County.[/quote]
She weighs in at 310lbs at 15 yrs old…I think she would do just fine against most boys of that age in DADE county , how many 15 yr old boys weigh 310lbs ? . No I doubt she will be going pro ,Or playing D-1 football in college …But neither is the vast majority of boys that play football. I would say that there has to be a few women out there that have the size and strength along with the athletic ability to play pro-ball with the men ,but just have not made football their chosen sport of pursuit…for instance I bet a woman like becca swanson is plenty strong enough in the upper body to compete with men in pro ball in-fact I bet she is stronger than than some of the men in pro-ball .
I think it is a smart move on her part, she’ll get some attention maybe some good scholarship out there and get free college by having so much ambition.
She however won’t be getting in the NFL.
Am I the only person who sees a grosly overweight girl who is chasing a bullshit dream? I don’t see why anyone would applaud her for it.
True but she’s a 15 year old girl, and also, smaller built players often have the best lifting numbers. I don’t know how big this girl is. Girls can be fast/agile, or big/strong, but finding one who is big and fast is unlikely.
[quote]jjoseph_x wrote:
mertdawg wrote:
You’d be suprised how few NFL players actually squat 525. Big college linebackers are often in the 450-475 range-granted raw.
I’ll take your word for it; but I’m sure that they all bench way more than 205 (heck Reggie Bush can do 25 reps of 225)… and that’s a little running back.
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I don’t understand why so many people have such a negative reaction to this. She said she HOPES to play in the NFL, not that she expects to. What’s wrong with having dreams?
I’d hit it.