Feeling Sick

So far this week I’ve only lifted on Monday. Now I feel sick (upper respiratory crud)and feel the best thing to do is to not lift until I feel better. If I’m not mistaken, lifting while you’re ill can make a person actually take steps backwards in progress. Please give opinions if you think this info is correct. BTW yesterday I did get a mini workout in, I have a 5 year old nephew I used for an impromptu w/o. What he lacks in weight he makes up for in instability. Great for various lifts plus, he thinks it’s fun. Steve.rt

[quote]steve.rt wrote:
So far this week I’ve only lifted on Monday. Now I feel sick (upper respiratory crud)and feel the best thing to do is to not lift until I feel better. If I’m not mistaken, lifting while you’re ill can make a person actually take steps backwards in progress. Please give opinions if you think this info is correct. BTW yesterday I did get a mini workout in, I have a 5 year old nephew I used for an impromptu w/o. What he lacks in weight he makes up for in instability. Great for various lifts plus, he thinks it’s fun. Steve.rt[/quote]

don’t lift, i took these last 3 days off, and i feel alot better. Drink grow, take some zinc, get you Vit C, plenty of water and sleep, and you’ll be as good as anything. Heck, you might even come back into the gym stronger with a refreshed CNS.

I know it goes against all the rules, but I’ve found that I’ve always gotten better faster if I exercised through the illness. Believe it or not, cardio work especially helped me through it. The only execption, I would not do anything but rest if I had a fever.

I’ve got a chest cold that’s killing me.

I’ve heard both claims: it’s good to workout, it’s bad to workout.

Yesterday I went to the gym and just did Squats and Glute-Ham raises, not pushing myself at all but doing the same weights I did when I was healthy.

I am not sure what to suggest about staying out of the gym or not, as I have heard both as well.

However, I do have some suggestions as to what to do to make colds go away faster.

First of all, keep your body in alkaline ph balance. Viruses require acidic enviroments to reproduce. Milk thistle will aide in this, as will supplemental glutamine, however, I find it also good to go on a fruit and veggie fast. I have not found issues with not having protein for one or two days, though if one must, take it in shakes with glutamine to neutralize the slight acidity.

Some extra zinc and magnesium will help with decongestion, while vitamin C should aide the cold fighting process. Taking alot of echinacea would be my suggestion as well.

I hope you guys feel better soon, I will be praying for you.

Moon Knight,

      Thanks for posting that advice. I didn't know that glutamine had that effect.

Nice advice moon. Astragulus (sp?) works fairly well to. Besides that I think that experience/common sense should help with your decision. Training is a form of stress and inducing that in an already taxed enviroment isn’t going to help any. At the same time if it’s just a little head cold I’d probably give it a go anyways. Just go about treating the cold in the same manner suggested. Melatonin might also help you to get a better night rest=improved recovery.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
I am not sure what to suggest about staying out of the gym or not, as I have heard both as well.

However, I do have some suggestions as to what to do to make colds go away faster.

First of all, keep your body in alkaline ph balance. Viruses require acidic enviroments to reproduce. Milk thistle will aide in this, as will supplemental glutamine, however, I find it also good to go on a fruit and veggie fast. I have not found issues with not having protein for one or two days, though if one must, take it in shakes with glutamine to neutralize the slight acidity.

Some extra zinc and magnesium will help with decongestion, while vitamin C should aide the cold fighting process. Taking alot of echinacea would be my suggestion as well.

I hope you guys feel better soon, I will be praying for you.[/quote]

Moon Knight:

How do you keep your body in an akaline state if you are taking large doeses of vitamin C to combat the virus?

I have heard about the akaline theory before. Just wanted your opinion.

I had not heard before now that vitamin c would cause a ph flux, but, a little research has revealed that you are quite correct about that ZEB.

Now, the question is, how acidic is it which is something I could not track down right away.

I suppose what “large doses” would entail makes a difference as well. I envision taking a multivitamin(most have a fair bit of vitamin c), along with one or two additional vitamin c capsules during the day, and the fair bit one would garner from the fruits and vegetables, to be quite enough.

There are also different variations of vitamin c, some of which are low or non-acidic. Calcium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, and sodium ascorbate, as well as a product I’ve just read about called C-salt all fit that descriptions.

I was taking only about 300 mg of extra vitamin C, on top of the 300 in my multivitamin, and the fruits and veggies. The one time dose, and the relatively small amount seems insignificant to me, stacked against the many alkalinizing factors. However, if one is taking a great deal more then that, I would recommend taking the vitamin C with some glutamine, and/or make sure that the vitamin C is coming from a low-acidic source. I think the extra glutamine would be a good idea anyway, both to help alkalinize the body more quickly, and to retain muscle.

Doing exercise that causes you to breath deeply (like cardio) helps the lungs out. You also release endorphins when you exercise. The exercising will also get blood flowing and raise your body temp.

Depending on what you have, these may help you recover faster.

I remember reading somewhere that Russians used to infect their sprinters with a macrobe that would cause a fever at just the right time for the fever to be at its peak on the hour of the competition.

On a less ‘Soviet Secrets’ note, I have noticed on two or three occasions that I can squat 5-10% more when I’m running a fever. Of course I wouldn’t reccomend this because my CNS usually really crashes afterwards and I need a couple days or a week to recover.

Has anyone else ever experienced that CNS performance boost from a fever?

depending on the illness,I have experienced both. With a bad flu that realy drained me I wouldn’t touch the weights, but an irritating cold usualy pisses me off enough to get an extra ten pounds on a lift.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
I had not heard before now that vitamin c would cause a ph flux, but, a little research has revealed that you are quite correct about that ZEB.

Now, the question is, how acidic is it which is something I could not track down right away.

I suppose what “large doses” would entail makes a difference as well. I envision taking a multivitamin(most have a fair bit of vitamin c), along with one or two additional vitamin c capsules during the day, and the fair bit one would garner from the fruits and vegetables, to be quite enough.

There are also different variations of vitamin c, some of which are low or non-acidic. Calcium ascorbate, potassium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate, and sodium ascorbate, as well as a product I’ve just read about called C-salt all fit that descriptions.

I was taking only about 300 mg of extra vitamin C, on top of the 300 in my multivitamin, and the fruits and veggies. The one time dose, and the relatively small amount seems insignificant to me, stacked against the many alkalinizing factors. However, if one is taking a great deal more then that, I would recommend taking the vitamin C with some glutamine, and/or make sure that the vitamin C is coming from a low-acidic source. I think the extra glutamine would be a good idea anyway, both to help alkalinize the body more quickly, and to retain muscle.[/quote]

Moon Knight:

Thanks for taking the time. Once again, I have learned something on this fantastic site!

Heh, saw this thread a few days ago and now I’m sick! I think one of you bastards infected me via internet. I don’t know what it is. Coughs, fever, watry eyes, nose has all kinds of stuff pouring out of it, sore throat. Havn’t eaten much the last few days either. I’m keeping up on my fluid intake, and try to knock back a few GROW! shakes a day. Being sick sucks! Best of all, I just took a week off, so I’ve had two workouts in the last 2 weeks.

On what analog_kid wrote:

Tell me about it…I was 222lbs and now 208, and I have been eating. I guess the fever has quite a thermogenic effect, I just hope it was mostly water/fat and not the hard-earned LBM

I have always heard that if the symptoms are from the neck and up working out is ok and may be beneficial.

If the symptoms are below the neckline then it is best to take time off.

I"m sick of not getting laid…Going to the gym definetly helps me!

[quote]Proteinpowda wrote:
I"m sick of not getting laid…Going to the gym definetly helps me![/quote]

Come on man! You just gotta send the ladies some of the “softer side” pics and they will be knocking down your door!

Moon Knight,

I'm just wondering how exactly the whole acidic/base thing works. The thing that puzzles me is that the body constantly works towards equilibrium, so by taking in large amounts of base, wouldn't you drive the body to create an acidic nature to bring it back to balance?  Maybe I'm over-thinking the whole thing.  Just something that sprung my curiosity and wondering if you could answer it.