First of all Fedor is amongst the best and always have been.
He’s right up there just behind rickson gracie, but if there’s one thing i’ve notices it’s that fedor always struggles against strong opponents, particularly those with a wrestling background.
And we all know that MMA isn’t exactly big money, at least for the fighters. So it is nothing short of insane for someone to turn down a contract worth millions, not to mention the additional publicity and commission he would receive in the US.
Styles make fights, but unfortunately lesnars is a nightmare matchup for him, and he knows it.
You can pull of a submission against an oaf like choi, but lesnars ground game combined with his strength would be too much. His best bet is striking, but lesnar isn’t a slow dude and his boxing only keeps getting better.
If fedor eventually decides to stop ducking and diving and finally faces his nemesis, he will not last the full duration. I predict lesnar by brutal ground and pound.
[quote]Im Yolked wrote:
First of all Fedor is amongst the best and always have been.
He’s right up there just behind rickson gracie, but if there’s one thing i’ve notices it’s that fedor always struggles against strong opponents, particularly those with a wrestling background.
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Ahem, he’s better than Rickson. Who of mention did Rickson ever beat in an MMA match? In straight up grappling, yeah he’s better, but not in MMA.
Also, he’s been in some tough spots against wrestlers, but he’s beaten all of them.
I heard lots of rumors about the supposed contract with the UFC that fell through. Everything from it being worth millions and basically only stipulating that Fedor wouldn’t fight in other organizations, to no actual contract having ever existed, to problems to do co-promotion.
Some of Fedor’s management team are deusches, which probably had something to do with the deal not going through. But I highly doubt that he would have turned down a legitimate contract worth that type of money (and definitely not because he was “scared” of Brock).
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Styles make fights, but unfortunately lesnars is a nightmare matchup for him, and he knows it.
You can pull of a submission against an oaf like choi, but lesnars ground game combined with his strength would be too much. His best bet is striking, but lesnar isn’t a slow dude and his boxing only keeps getting better.
If fedor eventually decides to stop ducking and diving and finally faces his nemesis, he will not last the full duration. I predict lesnar by brutal ground and pound.[/quote]
You have no idea what he can or can’t make outside of the UFC. You don’t know how much he gets from “co-promoting” with other organizations. You don’t know what his UFC contract might have been worth, because the rumors varied wildly from 2 mil a fight to a 30 million dollar contract. If Fedor was scared of big, athletic fighters, wouldn’t he have cut down to 205 or 185 a long time ago? The guy is 6ft, 220 lbs @ 18ish pct bodyfat and fights at heavyweight.
Lesnar has nothing Fedor hasn’t seen before. Randleman suplexed Fedor ON HIS HEAD, and not only did Fedor keep fighting, but he submitted Kevin at the end of the first round. Brock is bigger, that’s about it.
Speaking of which, Randleman v. Lesnar could be interesting. Or it could be extremely boring…
Lesnar has nothing Fedor hasn’t seen before. Randleman suplexed Fedor ON HIS HEAD, and not only did Fedor keep fighting, but he submitted Kevin at the end of the first round. Brock is bigger, that’s about it.
Speaking of which, Randleman v. Lesnar could be interesting. Or it could be extremely boring…[/quote]
Are you serious? Randlema, even in his prime was never in the same league as brock is.
Brock is much bigger, stronger, faster and technically superior. Now imagine if randleman was able to suplex fedor like that, brock will skool him. Everyone thinks he realies on his power alone, but that’s untrue. Re-watch his most recent fights and you’ll see he is very underrated technically.
Fedor has never fought anyone of lesnar’s calibre, and is frightened of losing his status as the no.1 fighter.
Fedor does not need to defend his number 1 heavyweight rank. He has beaten all top contenders. Neither you or i know why they are not fighting. Everything you know about why they are not fighting is all rumors. Just say you’re in love with Brock and i’m sure the admins will move this thread to SAMA.
this will be a never-ending arguement…who gives a fuck really. AND LISTEN
Most of these guys arent scared of eachothers. Hell when I was 18 years old I was 5’8 and fought in the 205 division muay thai…I fought a MUCH bigger guy, who was also 6’5.
I wasn’t scared.
Most of these guys who fight eachother…aren’t scared either…it’s just pressure.
[quote]Im Yolked wrote:
Are you serious? Randlema, even in his prime was never in the same league as brock is.
Brock is much bigger, stronger, faster and technically superior. Now imagine if randleman was able to suplex fedor like that, brock will skool him. Everyone thinks he realies on his power alone, but that’s untrue. Re-watch his most recent fights and you’ll see he is very underrated technically.
Fedor has never fought anyone of lesnar’s calibre, and is frightened of losing his status as the no.1 fighter. [/quote]
Fedor has fought much better fighters than Brock. Lesnar is still learning(he has said as much repeatedly), so we have yet to see his best. He may be a superior wrestler, and have a ton of athletic gifts, but to say he is of a higher caliber, and that Fedor is scared of him, is just absurd.
I like Brock, and I think he is going to be great as he improves. He learns fast, and he is able to impose his will on smaller fighters. If Fedor is scared of anything, it would be Brocks size.
First of all, those who hate Lesnar are letting their emotion cloud their judgement. Lesnar, while still learning, is certainly the real deal. He’s a world class wrestler and has great punching power as well, just ask Couture and Herring how hard he hits they’ve both hit the ground from a Lesnar punch. As far as his size and strength it is, so far, unparalleled, as Shane Carwin will soon find out.
With that said, I don’t think for a second that Fedor is afraid to fight him, give the man credit he’s beaten everyone they’ve put in front of him (losing only one mma fight in his career). While Fedor has had trouble with Wrestlers (one only need watch the Coleman fight to see it clearly) he’s a champion and I’m sure would gladly take the Lesnar challenge.
Why didn’t he sign with the UFC? This is only speculation but I’d say it has everything to do with money. The UFC will only pay so much to even their best fighters (300-K for a championship fight is not uncommon). The writing is on the wall and Fedor being not only a great fighter but great business man as well chose to control his own career and image (yes the UFC owns even your image when you sign with them). He probably put pencil to paper and realized that he’d make far more money in the long-term by steering clear of the UFC and controlling his own destiny.
Choi, Schilt, Zulu… fuck it you get the idea.
Of course Brock’s a different animal, but I think Fedor would be very competitive against him. He’d have to keep it standing no doubt, which will obviously be a problem.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
As far as his size and strength it is, so far, unparalleled, as Shane Carwin will soon find out.
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Well, technically his size has been paralleled. Sapp, Paul Varelans, The Giant Silva, and John Matua (I’m sure there have been more, but those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head) were all as big if not bigger than Lesnar. Strength wise, maybe. Though to tell really.
But being that size, and strength, with the speed, explosiveness, and wrestling skill that Lesnar has, no, Lesnar is alone in that category. Carwin has the better striking and more KO power though, so we’ll have to wait and see how that fight plays out.