a change day today.
Partial(stop at 3/4 of the way up)deficit (thighs to parallel)semi-sumo deads (while keeping bar in contact with legs at all times (dont know what else to call it)
40kgx5
50x5
55x5,5,5
it really hits the quads but looks funny
overhead press
40kgx3
45x3
50x3
55x3
60x3
65x3
dumbell split squat (2 dumbell total)
20kgx3/3
30x3/3
40x3/3
50x3/3
55x3/3
going down til back knee hits the floor
legs wobbly now
I bet your knees are wobbly, thats enough to drive a man to drink.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
I bet your knees are wobbly, thats enough to drive a man to drink.[/quote]
excellent, I’ll use that as my excuse to drink more in that case
Hi, Big Nurse. You’re 53 yrs old? Welcome to the old geezers’ home.
Brasil is right, no laughing here. We respect anyone who hits the iron and does his/her best. We’ve had our injuries, our down days, so we don’t judge.
The only time we laugh is when someone tells a joke. For example, when Brasil says he needs an excuse to drink, that’s a joke. 
BTW, nice lifting Brasil.
[quote]cavalier wrote:
Hi, Big Nurse. You’re 53 yrs old? Welcome to the old geezers’ home.
Brasil is right, no laughing here. We respect anyone who hits the iron and does his/her best. We’ve had our injuries, our down days, so we don’t judge.
The only time we laugh is when someone tells a joke. For example, when Brasil says he needs an excuse to drink, that’s a joke.
BTW, nice lifting Brasil.[/quote]
itsh aftah fow o’clock an I can shtill shee the shcreen.
I only dlink to get the revres, reserv, resverty, oh, to get shum good shtuff out of the red wine. Itsh good for the heart
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]big nurse wrote:
Mm, quite like squirrel dipped in some sort of marinade and roasted quickly over hot coals.
Did the occaisonal monroe but mainly with tools in winter …sun in scotland !!! must have been hallucinating !.
Actually more of an ex cragrat .last decent route was face route at gordale.
Err…53 and just getting into weights so no laughter now :
Deadlift 90kg
Squat 70kg
Bench 42.5
Lats around 65 kg
Press-ups --around 50 per session.
Cardio intervals about 2 1/2 miles in 2o minuyes.
Laughter may now subside !![/quote]
roast marinated squirrel- you must be from the Southern States of the USA!
you wont get any laughter in this forum, we even mention things like Alan Partridge and the Office. Absolutely no laughter there as far as I’m concerned.
what are your goals in the gym?
cheers
Sun in Scotland, ah yes, I remember that day, it was in the 80’s I think. [/quote]
Nope.
Southern (western) county of the U OF K, I.E Devon.
Squirrel reference is due to having eaten many of the little grey tree rats as a bushcraft instructor.
Gym goals are all based around ‘funtional’ strength and fitness rather than mass and appearnce.
First goal was getting to 1x body weight on deadlift which i have just achieved, next is to get a much stronger ‘lift’ ie pull-ups (ex climber)
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
So I’m really pleased that I can full-lift the same as I could doing power and hang versions. and no press-outs. They had always seemed easier to do.
Now I need to see if I can do better in the full lifts (albeit my split isnt full depth, so pedants may say I’m still power cleaning/snatching. but its much deeper than I used to, so I’m happy)
[/quote]
I’m not surprised you can already match your weights from the hang and the power versions with the full lifts because of the shorter distance the bar has to travel when you drop under.
Are you going to start doing any regular assistance work?
These lifts are very addictive aren’t they?
[/quote]
yup very addictive. As I appear to be in the opposite camp to you (weak) I’m not sure what assistance exercises would be of any assistance. I genuinely dont know how beneficial strength in the squat/dead/bench is. I just look at Carl’s squat and he’s not squatting much more than he cleans. So i dont know.
[/quote]
Carl would probably be the first to tell you that his strength is probably the limiting factor for his lifts now. He has an incredibly high skill level and that’s why his clean is so close to his squat. I on the other hand have a huge difference between what I can snatch and squat which means my technique is poor and my limiting factor right now.
I’m pretty sure your skill level must be pretty high as you’ve been doing the lifts a while so improving your squat strength will definitely help increase your lifts. I don’t think the bench would help much, but squats and deads, absolutely no question.
Well thanks peeps.
Ok then so today : pretty good session for me.
Back squat 5x5 at 70kg (not vey deep yet though0
Lat pull down 5x5 at 57kg
Deadlift 5x5 at 80-90
Bench 5x5 at 40kg
Cable row 5x5 at 28kg
Then :
Step-ups with 20kg vipr 50r
Floor to ceiling (thrusters from floor) 2x20
Press-ups 50
Then
2XDM
So Big Nurse, what’s the story? Do you have a thread elsewhere or is this your first posting? Did you just start lifting? What’s your goal - get strength, lose fat, etc? I’m guessing from your bodyweight that you’re a guy, correct?
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
So I’m really pleased that I can full-lift the same as I could doing power and hang versions. and no press-outs. They had always seemed easier to do.
Now I need to see if I can do better in the full lifts (albeit my split isnt full depth, so pedants may say I’m still power cleaning/snatching. but its much deeper than I used to, so I’m happy)
[/quote]
I’m not surprised you can already match your weights from the hang and the power versions with the full lifts because of the shorter distance the bar has to travel when you drop under.
Are you going to start doing any regular assistance work?
These lifts are very addictive aren’t they?
[/quote]
yup very addictive. As I appear to be in the opposite camp to you (weak) I’m not sure what assistance exercises would be of any assistance. I genuinely dont know how beneficial strength in the squat/dead/bench is. I just look at Carl’s squat and he’s not squatting much more than he cleans. So i dont know.
[/quote]
Carl would probably be the first to tell you that his strength is probably the limiting factor for his lifts now. He has an incredibly high skill level and that’s why his clean is so close to his squat. I on the other hand have a huge difference between what I can snatch and squat which means my technique is poor and my limiting factor right now.
I’m pretty sure your skill level must be pretty high as you’ve been doing the lifts a while so improving your squat strength will definitely help increase your lifts. I don’t think the bench would help much, but squats and deads, absolutely no question.[/quote]
Actually, it looks like I’ll be the second to tell you, but Brett is right. My lifts go up or down according to my squats. The relation seems to be: for people just learning the lifts, the ratio of lifts to squat increases while technique is being mastered, then begins to decrease after a certain level of strength and technical proficiency are reached. I am nowhere near that level yet, but am much closer technically than in strength. In other words, the quickest way to improve my lifts is to get a bigger squat. I’m just guessing based on your numbers and other comments you’ve made, but I think you are at a point where both technique and strength work will give equally good gains.
[quote]cavalier wrote:
So Big Nurse, what’s the story? Do you have a thread elsewhere or is this your first posting? Did you just start lifting? What’s your goal - get strength, lose fat, etc? I’m guessing from your bodyweight that you’re a guy, correct?[/quote]
Yes indeed, i have only just started lifting (10 weeks in), big nurse was my whitbread race name. Goals were initially to lose a load of weight (was just into tyhe obese category a year ago)…now its to get all round functionally fit across all dimensions : so speed, endurance,strength,stamina and balance.
So workouts are based on basic strength work, conditioning, cardio and balance at present based around 3 gym days a week and other cardio like ruck work and outdoor runs as well.
[quote]big nurse wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]big nurse wrote:
Mm, quite like squirrel dipped in some sort of marinade and roasted quickly over hot coals.
Did the occaisonal monroe but mainly with tools in winter …sun in scotland !!! must have been hallucinating !.
Actually more of an ex cragrat .last decent route was face route at gordale.
Err…53 and just getting into weights so no laughter now :
Deadlift 90kg
Squat 70kg
Bench 42.5
Lats around 65 kg
Press-ups --around 50 per session.
Cardio intervals about 2 1/2 miles in 2o minuyes.
Laughter may now subside !![/quote]
roast marinated squirrel- you must be from the Southern States of the USA!
you wont get any laughter in this forum, we even mention things like Alan Partridge and the Office. Absolutely no laughter there as far as I’m concerned.
what are your goals in the gym?
cheers
Sun in Scotland, ah yes, I remember that day, it was in the 80’s I think. [/quote]
Nope.
Southern (western) county of the U OF K, I.E Devon.
Squirrel reference is due to having eaten many of the little grey tree rats as a bushcraft instructor.
Gym goals are all based around ‘funtional’ strength and fitness rather than mass and appearnce.
First goal was getting to 1x body weight on deadlift which i have just achieved, next is to get a much stronger ‘lift’ ie pull-ups (ex climber)
[/quote]
I agree, we should eat all the Grey’s we can find and let the Red’s flourish
A tall, heavy (no offence) climber, thats not an easy combination. Are you a hill or a rock climber?
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
So I’m really pleased that I can full-lift the same as I could doing power and hang versions. and no press-outs. They had always seemed easier to do.
Now I need to see if I can do better in the full lifts (albeit my split isnt full depth, so pedants may say I’m still power cleaning/snatching. but its much deeper than I used to, so I’m happy)
[/quote]
I’m not surprised you can already match your weights from the hang and the power versions with the full lifts because of the shorter distance the bar has to travel when you drop under.
Are you going to start doing any regular assistance work?
These lifts are very addictive aren’t they?
[/quote]
yup very addictive. As I appear to be in the opposite camp to you (weak) I’m not sure what assistance exercises would be of any assistance. I genuinely dont know how beneficial strength in the squat/dead/bench is. I just look at Carl’s squat and he’s not squatting much more than he cleans. So i dont know.
[/quote]
Carl would probably be the first to tell you that his strength is probably the limiting factor for his lifts now. He has an incredibly high skill level and that’s why his clean is so close to his squat. I on the other hand have a huge difference between what I can snatch and squat which means my technique is poor and my limiting factor right now.
I’m pretty sure your skill level must be pretty high as you’ve been doing the lifts a while so improving your squat strength will definitely help increase your lifts. I don’t think the bench would help much, but squats and deads, absolutely no question.[/quote]
thanks. sadly thats not the advice I wanted, I would have prefererred if you had said that there was no need to build a big squat, oh well.
no I dont think I 'm at a high skill level, when I can work out how to upload a mobile phone video of my lifts I’ll prove I’m like the Tin Man trying lifting for the first time, with a particlarly sore back.
squats will need to be added I guess, thanks
[quote]cavalier wrote:
So Big Nurse, what’s the story? Do you have a thread elsewhere or is this your first posting? Did you just start lifting? What’s your goal - get strength, lose fat, etc? I’m guessing from your bodyweight that you’re a guy, correct?[/quote]
you’d better be right or youve just insulted her
[quote]Carl Darby wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
So I’m really pleased that I can full-lift the same as I could doing power and hang versions. and no press-outs. They had always seemed easier to do.
Now I need to see if I can do better in the full lifts (albeit my split isnt full depth, so pedants may say I’m still power cleaning/snatching. but its much deeper than I used to, so I’m happy)
[/quote]
I’m not surprised you can already match your weights from the hang and the power versions with the full lifts because of the shorter distance the bar has to travel when you drop under.
Are you going to start doing any regular assistance work?
These lifts are very addictive aren’t they?
[/quote]
yup very addictive. As I appear to be in the opposite camp to you (weak) I’m not sure what assistance exercises would be of any assistance. I genuinely dont know how beneficial strength in the squat/dead/bench is. I just look at Carl’s squat and he’s not squatting much more than he cleans. So i dont know.
[/quote]
Carl would probably be the first to tell you that his strength is probably the limiting factor for his lifts now. He has an incredibly high skill level and that’s why his clean is so close to his squat. I on the other hand have a huge difference between what I can snatch and squat which means my technique is poor and my limiting factor right now.
I’m pretty sure your skill level must be pretty high as you’ve been doing the lifts a while so improving your squat strength will definitely help increase your lifts. I don’t think the bench would help much, but squats and deads, absolutely no question.[/quote]
Actually, it looks like I’ll be the second to tell you, but Brett is right. My lifts go up or down according to my squats. The relation seems to be: for people just learning the lifts, the ratio of lifts to squat increases while technique is being mastered, then begins to decrease after a certain level of strength and technical proficiency are reached. I am nowhere near that level yet, but am much closer technically than in strength. In other words, the quickest way to improve my lifts is to get a bigger squat. I’m just guessing based on your numbers and other comments you’ve made, but I think you are at a point where both technique and strength work will give equally good gains.[/quote]
thanks, I guess thats fairly conclusive then. I cant say im happy about it though, it means having to do something I dont enjoy and therefore am bad at. Ah, well its for the best.
cheers
I shouldnt have bothered going t’gym today, I blame yesterdays leg workout for the lack of snap. But I wanted to get another gym workout in before the long weekend (fri, sat sun, mon off work)
clean and jerk
40kgx2
50x2
60x2
70x2
80x1
85x1
87.5x0 nearly, very nearly, but locked out one elbow. so I stopped.
snatch
40kgx2
45x2
50x2
55x1
60x1,0 felt heavy, no snap. stopped.
pullovers
30kgx10,10
overhead squats
40kgx2,2,2
got a nice stretch
right, off to buy some Union Flag bunting to tie round the lampposts, and about to set up the tables and cook the food for The Street Party to celebrate the event of the Millenium so far!
then again, maybe not.
I’d feel a lot better about the royal wedding if only I could forget how the last one turned out…
[quote]cavalier wrote:
I’d feel a lot better about the royal wedding if only I could forget how the last one turned out…[/quote]
ah yes, the last big UK Royal wedding ended up with infidelity, divorce, and murd… , no it was an unfortunate accident in a French underpass
this one will be fine, fine I tell you
Bluebrasil. More of an ex cragrat (but was a lot lighter then) now more of a hiker but would like to climb again. Now i am back to a reasonable weight (85 kg) altough can go lighter yet i would like to get back on the rock again, doesnt have to be high standard.
Royal weddings = pants.
Eat more squirell and rabbit i say.
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]bluebrasil wrote:
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Wills looks like he’s ready to get shitfaced.[/quote]
my advice to Kate - ALWAYS WEAR YOUR SEATBELT![/quote]
ahahahahahahaha
[/quote]
thanks,
well, “accidents” do happen[/quote]
DAMN!!! I don’t know if I should cringe or laugh my ass off.