[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.[/quote]
You’re not here to get help though =/[/quote]
Indeed.
But if he was here for help, this is the simplest advice he could get:
What you are doing currently has left you skinny fat and untrained.
Workout moar and eat less.
Tah-Dah!!!
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.[/quote]
You’re not here to get help though =/[/quote]
I guess that sucks for me. =(
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.[/quote]
You’re not here to get help though =/[/quote]
I guess that sucks for me. =([/quote]
And everyone in the thread who wasted their time actually taking you seriously and giving some time to a thought out response.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Well with CBL, when you train in the morning, you backload the PREVIOUS night to fuel that morning’s workout. It’s pretty simple, you just arrange your meals so you don’t have carbs until the evening. So just protein + fat meals until about 4-6pm, then after that protein + carb meals until bed. How many meals you have doesn’t matter. Whatever feels best you. And I’m not even saying that CBL is necessarily you’re best strategy. I personally had success with it, but your goals are different then mine. [/quote]
In a way I was carb backloading, just not with protein + fats throughout the day.
So would you say that a shake with 2 scoops of whey + EVOO would work as my P+F “meal”?
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Personally, I would up everything. My coach had me start off with 250g Carbs, 250g Protein, and 75g Fat, and we adjust macros based on if I lose/maintain/gain weight. Obviously 250g of Pro seems like a lot without meet, so I would put protein at 1g/BW (sorry not sure how much you weight, up fats a bit, and then add 50g of carbs this week, everyday (so 200g of carbs, up from the 150g you’re eating right now). Depending on whether you gain/lose weight next week, adjust. [/quote]
Current weight is 165lb, hence I was getting the 150 grams via whey (50 gram shakes) and the rest was just from beans and other incidentals.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Honestly I know you plan on ‘cutting’, but if you aren’t losing weight on 1650 calories while lifting and not being all too lean, you probably need to add some calories in, maybe get your metabolism back on track, and start from there. Maybe when you are taking in some more carbs, and such, some sprints or cardio would help your goals. But right now, I would think adding in some calories to fuel your workout may allow you to drop a bit of fat and add some muscle, which is in line with your goals. [/quote]
Thanks for that.
I guess I’ll just hit 200 grams of protein, 200 carbs, and 60 fats for starters.
Now my last question is can I consume the majority of this via shakes and does it have to be evenly distributed?
Thanks again for all your help.
[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
Have you tried Intermittent fasting? I’ve had some good results from that as well. The break-in period is the hardest, but many people have had excellent results from it once they adjust. Then you have to worry a whole lot less about meal-timing and such. It’s great for losing fat, even if it isn’t ideal for EVERYONE for gaining muscle and strength. Just another thought. I too appreciate how civil you’ve been this entire thread.[/quote]
Yes I have tried it, and have lifted on it too while being completely fasted. I enjoyed it a lot hell I would do it now if I could but its hard to consume all that protein in one sitting. Oh by the way I was on the 1 meal a day plan for a while.
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.[/quote]
You’re not here to get help though =/[/quote]
I guess that sucks for me. =([/quote]
And everyone in the thread who wasted their time actually taking you seriously and giving some time to a thought out response. [/quote]
I’m deeply sorry for that.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Indeed.
But if he was here for help, this is the simplest advice he could get:
What you are doing currently has left you skinny fat and untrained.
Workout moar and eat less.
Tah-Dah!!![/quote]
Hmmm interesting I was starting to get the impression that I might need to kick start my metabolism by increasing my calories, yet you say to eat less.
? =/
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Yup, could of believed the other lifts, but that 445 is a bit shall we say unbelievable. I’ve been wrong before though. [/quote]
It could be that I played competitive sports for a long time at a high level.
Would you believe the fact that I could get rim (not dunk) at 5’3" before I even started high school.[/quote]
No, I would need to see that.
Really guys? I was the only person who smelled troll at 5’3 touching the rim and squats make my legs grow so fast my pants are becoming skin tight?
[quote]Waittz wrote:
Really guys? I was the only person who smelled troll at 5’3 touching the rim and squats make my legs grow so fast my pants are becoming skin tight?
[/quote]
I’m not convinced he’s a troll, just delusional. Look at his training log, it’s like 2 years old, but with only a handful of posts. He’s constantly hurt, supposedly anyway.
I’m really trying not to be a dick OP, but if you can’t be honest with yourself, how can we help.
Post some more pictures and a video or two of you lifting, that will help us help you.
OP are you looking to be more like this:
*THIS IS NOT ME BRAGGING, I WAS TINY BACK THEN
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In the photo I was 153 lbs @ 5’9" and here’s how:
Mon/Wed/Fri - AM
AM 3-6 mile jog. Go with friends if possible, helps push you.
Tue/Thu/Sat - PM
Run a timed mile AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. I got down to 6:15.
Mon/Tue/Thu/Fri - lunch time
Upper, Lower, Upper, Lower
Diet:
Breakfast: 3 eggs with veggies
Snack 1: 3 clementines
Snack 2: Tuna fish
Lunch: Chow hall food (just use dinner left overs, no breads or pasta).
Dinner: Chow hall, no bread or pasta.
Snack 3: 6 inch turkey Subway sub with oil on wheat. NOTHING ELSE (no veggies, no cheese, etc…)
I literally did the above for 6 months and that’s the result.
Edit: I was 176 at the start.
^That is such a stupid picture 
So I went to sleep and this is what I come back to.
OP has exaggerated they physicality of his work. No way someone like him is working the type of security described. He’s stated how severely limited he is in the gym. If all his injuries are legit, then he wouldn’t be capable of ‘taking people down’ on a regular basis. Especially at his size/strength.
OP, size and strength often go hand in hand. You can be strong at the height and weight that you’re at, I wouldn’t question that. 165 and lean at 5’6 can be very strong. But that’s not you. Which is fine, but you’re not doing anything that will produce that result. I have to assume strength is important to you based on your claimed line of work, as well as your outside grappling endeavors.
The reason I suggested not cutting right now is that it will be easier to cut if you become more muscular to start. It will help with your metabolism. It will also help with your job/grappling. Your leverages on your opponent are going to suck the way you’re built, and if you’re as serious about grappling as you claim, you already know this. I just don’t understand why you’re trying to make a weight class below what you’re at, when your job wouldn’t have a weight class. You said work comes first.
Why not work towards becoming a lean, strong 165 instead of a weak 150? This will benefit you aesthetically, and in the workplace. It seems like a win-win to me. I said in my first post here that your goals are your own, I’m just trying to be reasonable and help you along towards a bigger picture. fwiw, I don’t think you’re trolling, but I do think to an extent you’re delusional. Sorry if this hurts your feelings.
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]
Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]
Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]
It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.
It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?
Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Well with CBL, when you train in the morning, you backload the PREVIOUS night to fuel that morning’s workout. It’s pretty simple, you just arrange your meals so you don’t have carbs until the evening. So just protein + fat meals until about 4-6pm, then after that protein + carb meals until bed. How many meals you have doesn’t matter. Whatever feels best you. And I’m not even saying that CBL is necessarily you’re best strategy. I personally had success with it, but your goals are different then mine. [/quote]
In a way I was carb backloading, just not with protein + fats throughout the day.
So would you say that a shake with 2 scoops of whey + EVOO would work as my P+F “meal”?
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Personally, I would up everything. My coach had me start off with 250g Carbs, 250g Protein, and 75g Fat, and we adjust macros based on if I lose/maintain/gain weight. Obviously 250g of Pro seems like a lot without meet, so I would put protein at 1g/BW (sorry not sure how much you weight, up fats a bit, and then add 50g of carbs this week, everyday (so 200g of carbs, up from the 150g you’re eating right now). Depending on whether you gain/lose weight next week, adjust. [/quote]
Current weight is 165lb, hence I was getting the 150 grams via whey (50 gram shakes) and the rest was just from beans and other incidentals.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Honestly I know you plan on ‘cutting’, but if you aren’t losing weight on 1650 calories while lifting and not being all too lean, you probably need to add some calories in, maybe get your metabolism back on track, and start from there. Maybe when you are taking in some more carbs, and such, some sprints or cardio would help your goals. But right now, I would think adding in some calories to fuel your workout may allow you to drop a bit of fat and add some muscle, which is in line with your goals. [/quote]
Thanks for that.
I guess I’ll just hit 200 grams of protein, 200 carbs, and 60 fats for starters.
Now my last question is can I consume the majority of this via shakes and does it have to be evenly distributed?
Thanks again for all your help. [/quote]
Sorry I have shitty Quote-Fu, so I’ll just answer like this:
1: Yes, I think that would be good. If you drink Coffee, adding in some whey and VCO is tasty IMO
2: Ok, that’s solid. I would say eating a bit more then 1g/lb of BW would be good, because personally I don’t think whey + incidentals are probably the most efficient forms of protein, so just to be sure, 200g would be solid.
3: Yeah that’s a good starting point. And if you gain a bit of weight, don’t think that’s bad. Look at yourself in the mirror, make adjustments using scale weight, visual appearance, even measurements if you’d like. And getting these all in through shakes would be fine I suppose, no reason you CAN’T other then that would make me hungry lol.
And I think there is some benefit to breaking up protein, so I PERSONALLY would eat 4 meals of 50g of protein everyday, and adjust carbs/fats in those meals however you wish.
I’ll be honest, I’m giving you benefit of the doubt, thinking you’re being legit and not a troll. I do believe the numbers you posted, because they seem believable to me of if you have long arms and your form is shitty (no offense).
Earlier in a post, you did say that you felt your routine doesn’t matter. While it may be not as crucial as diet, it’s still quite important. If you don’t give your body a sufficient training stimulus, a diet isn’t going to be all too effective. Looking at your routine, I REALLY think you and your coach could use a lot of the same movements you’re using and fit it into a WS4SB template, and get a lot more out of it. I too have a shitty shoulder, and know you can use WS4SB with hat issue. And When I first started lifting, WS4SB definitely made me much more athletic (went from barely dunking to easily dunking very quickly), so it would really fit with your goals IMO.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]
Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]
It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.
It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?
Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]
I’m as confused as you.
Do you have any update pics?
