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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

I’m as confused as you.

Do you have any update pics?[/quote]

Nope. Probably won’t even worry about that until summer. I am just enjoying being able to move through a full range of motion again. Shit, it took over a year for my hand to heal so I could bend all fingers again like I used to.

I still have a torn triceps so some of my lockouts are limited on some movements.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

Haha that is the most apt description of this phenomenon I’ve heard. Exactly. If you don’t want to improve yourself, please don’t take up space in the gym.

Congrats on the recovery. I’m still chasing traps like yours. Did you build those entirely from shrugs? I have some bicep tendon issues, so I can’t do the olympic lifts.

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[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

Haha that is the most apt description of this phenomenon I’ve heard. Exactly. If you don’t want to improve yourself, please don’t take up space in the gym.

Congrats on the recovery. I’m still chasing traps like yours. Did you build those entirely from shrugs? I have some bicep tendon issues, so I can’t do the olympic lifts.[/quote]

Shrugs and rows is all I do. When I was riding my motorcycle I had to stop training them because I couldn’t keep my head up without it straining my neck over time.

I have body parts like that and shoulders that just blow up but then have to work my ass off for every centimeter on my calves.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

I’m as confused as you.

Do you have any update pics?[/quote]

Nope. Probably won’t even worry about that until summer. I am just enjoying being able to move through a full range of motion again. Shit, it took over a year for my hand to heal so I could bend all fingers again like I used to.

I still have a torn triceps so some of my lockouts are limited on some movements.[/quote]

Gotcha, well good luck on your continued rehab.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

Haha that is the most apt description of this phenomenon I’ve heard. Exactly. If you don’t want to improve yourself, please don’t take up space in the gym.

Congrats on the recovery. I’m still chasing traps like yours. Did you build those entirely from shrugs? I have some bicep tendon issues, so I can’t do the olympic lifts.[/quote]

Shrugs and rows is all I do. When I was riding my motorcycle I had to stop training them because I couldn’t keep my head up without it straining my neck over time.

I have body parts like that and shoulders that just blow up but then have to work my ass off for every centimeter on my calves.[/quote]

Haha ok awesome. Thanks! As problems go, that’s a great one to have. My triceps, lats, and quads are those “blow-up” body parts for me. I’ve heard you put up some HUGE poundages for the shrugs too; my goal for the next two months is to start putting up 315+ on the shrugs for solid reps.

Sorry about your triceps tear, by the way. That really freaking sucks.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

I’m as confused as you.

Do you have any update pics?[/quote]

Nope. Probably won’t even worry about that until summer. I am just enjoying being able to move through a full range of motion again. Shit, it took over a year for my hand to heal so I could bend all fingers again like I used to.

I still have a torn triceps so some of my lockouts are limited on some movements.[/quote]

This came up in another thread… was curious, when doing Incline movements (I’m mostly referring to BB or DB’s, which I know you use more machines for pressing now, but regardless), how low did you go? I notice I feel best, and many others, feel their pecs (and not their front delts) best not going all the way down and touching their chest, while others do. What worked best for you?

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[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

Haha that is the most apt description of this phenomenon I’ve heard. Exactly. If you don’t want to improve yourself, please don’t take up space in the gym.

Congrats on the recovery. I’m still chasing traps like yours. Did you build those entirely from shrugs? I have some bicep tendon issues, so I can’t do the olympic lifts.[/quote]

Shrugs and rows is all I do. When I was riding my motorcycle I had to stop training them because I couldn’t keep my head up without it straining my neck over time.

I have body parts like that and shoulders that just blow up but then have to work my ass off for every centimeter on my calves.[/quote]

Haha ok awesome. Thanks! As problems go, that’s a great one to have. My triceps, lats, and quads are those “blow-up” body parts for me. I’ve heard you put up some HUGE poundages for the shrugs too; my goal for the next two months is to start putting up 315+ on the shrugs for solid reps.

Sorry about your triceps tear, by the way. That really freaking sucks. [/quote]

I have gotten to the point on shrugs that the weight I used to need straps on just to heavethe weight is now what I can do for SLOW REPS with a hold at the top.

It took a while for me to get the strength back in my hand that was broken to do that, but that made a huge difference also.

Everyone just “heaves” the weight up when they first start. Once you start holding 4 platges a side for a peak contraction with no straps, those fuckers should be popping up way bigger than most.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
This came up in another thread… was curious, when doing Incline movements (I’m mostly referring to BB or DB’s, which I know you use more machines for pressing now, but regardless), how low did you go? I notice I feel best, and many others, feel their pecs (and not their front delts) best not going all the way down and touching their chest, while others do. What worked best for you?[/quote]

I used to stop just before touching the chest. I go for more of a stretch now… but that is because my whole way of trainiong has changed from trying to move more and more weight to really trying to control the weight I use.

Truth be told, I built most of my chest NOT going for that stretch much.

It helped me build strength to not worry about it as much before but it is helping me get bigger to worry about it now.

Hope that makes sense.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
This came up in another thread… was curious, when doing Incline movements (I’m mostly referring to BB or DB’s, which I know you use more machines for pressing now, but regardless), how low did you go? I notice I feel best, and many others, feel their pecs (and not their front delts) best not going all the way down and touching their chest, while others do. What worked best for you?[/quote]

I used to stop just before touching the chest. I go for more of a stretch now… but that is because my whole way of trainiong has changed from trying to move more and more weight to really trying to control the weight I use.

Truth be told, I built most of my chest NOT going for that stretch much.

It helped me build strength to not worry about it as much before but it is helping me get bigger to worry about it now.

Hope that makes sense.[/quote]

Yeah that makes sense completely. I know at one point you focused on your upper chest, was a big part of that learning to take your delts out of pressing movements?

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X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]KingKai25 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This shit is old. I guess it’s fun to play on the internet like this lately.[/quote]

Come on X this has been happening for a long time, just usually in RMP. At least he didn’t post a pic of a shoe…[/quote]

It just makes me wonder what people like that come here for.

It is like those guys who stay in the men’s locker room just a tad too long who you never actually see working out. They really come here for this?

Either way, my upper chest is back now that my shoulder has healed up.[/quote]

Haha that is the most apt description of this phenomenon I’ve heard. Exactly. If you don’t want to improve yourself, please don’t take up space in the gym.

Congrats on the recovery. I’m still chasing traps like yours. Did you build those entirely from shrugs? I have some bicep tendon issues, so I can’t do the olympic lifts.[/quote]

Shrugs and rows is all I do. When I was riding my motorcycle I had to stop training them because I couldn’t keep my head up without it straining my neck over time.

I have body parts like that and shoulders that just blow up but then have to work my ass off for every centimeter on my calves.[/quote]

Haha ok awesome. Thanks! As problems go, that’s a great one to have. My triceps, lats, and quads are those “blow-up” body parts for me. I’ve heard you put up some HUGE poundages for the shrugs too; my goal for the next two months is to start putting up 315+ on the shrugs for solid reps.

Sorry about your triceps tear, by the way. That really freaking sucks. [/quote]

I have gotten to the point on shrugs that the weight I used to need straps on just to heavethe weight is now what I can do for SLOW REPS with a hold at the top.

It took a while for me to get the strength back in my hand that was broken to do that, but that made a huge difference also.

Everyone just “heaves” the weight up when they first start. Once you start holding 4 platges a side for a peak contraction with no straps, those fuckers should be popping up way bigger than most.[/quote]

Awesome; that makes sense. Thanks a lot, X.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
This came up in another thread… was curious, when doing Incline movements (I’m mostly referring to BB or DB’s, which I know you use more machines for pressing now, but regardless), how low did you go? I notice I feel best, and many others, feel their pecs (and not their front delts) best not going all the way down and touching their chest, while others do. What worked best for you?[/quote]

I used to stop just before touching the chest. I go for more of a stretch now… but that is because my whole way of trainiong has changed from trying to move more and more weight to really trying to control the weight I use.

Truth be told, I built most of my chest NOT going for that stretch much.

It helped me build strength to not worry about it as much before but it is helping me get bigger to worry about it now.

Hope that makes sense.[/quote]

Yeah that makes sense completely. I know at one point you focused on your upper chest, was a big part of that learning to take your delts out of pressing movements?
[/quote]

No, I never had that problem. I used to train upper chest one day and then lower chest a couple of days later.

My upper chest sticks out at least 2" from my collar bone when flexed now and a lot of that has to do with me training like that back then.

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Chest being my weakest body part, I actually just started splitting it up into 2 separate days. Hoping to see some results.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.[/quote]
Same here, I always used to hit forearms but here lately my forearms get hit hard just with my rows and shrugs…

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I stopped reading about 3 pages in, so if you already have your answer, I apologize.

A remember a few years back I read an article by Dr. Berardi. He experimented with a vegetarian diet.

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[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.[/quote]
Same here, I always used to hit forearms but here lately my forearms get hit hard just with my rows and shrugs…[/quote]

I get a ton of forearm work from deadlifting 4+ plates every week, along with heavy db rows and meadows rows. that’s why I started strapping on the shrugs. sometimes i just use chalk, but since shrugs are coming late in my back workout, my hands are pretty fried by that point, and I consider my grip strength to be superior to my trap development.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.[/quote]
Same here, I always used to hit forearms but here lately my forearms get hit hard just with my rows and shrugs…[/quote]

I get a ton of forearm work from deadlifting 4+ plates every week, along with heavy db rows and meadows rows. that’s why I started strapping on the shrugs. sometimes i just use chalk, but since shrugs are coming late in my back workout, my hands are pretty fried by that point, and I consider my grip strength to be superior to my trap development.[/quote]

In that case, strap up like you are about to get laid by Madonna.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.[/quote]
Same here, I always used to hit forearms but here lately my forearms get hit hard just with my rows and shrugs…[/quote]

I get a ton of forearm work from deadlifting 4+ plates every week, along with heavy db rows and meadows rows. that’s why I started strapping on the shrugs. sometimes i just use chalk, but since shrugs are coming late in my back workout, my hands are pretty fried by that point, and I consider my grip strength to be superior to my trap development.[/quote]

In that case, strap up like you are about to get laid by Madonna.[/quote]

‘Body of Evidence’ Madonna? Or Skeletor 2.0 Madonna?

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]krummdiddy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
X, I recently started using straps on my higher rep shrugs to save my grip strength for DL’s. If you still hold the contraction and control the weight, do you think it matters if you’re using straps or not?[/quote]

It does for your forearms.

That is the main reason I don’t use straps. My forearms get no other training but are pretty big.[/quote]
Same here, I always used to hit forearms but here lately my forearms get hit hard just with my rows and shrugs…[/quote]

I get a ton of forearm work from deadlifting 4+ plates every week, along with heavy db rows and meadows rows. that’s why I started strapping on the shrugs. sometimes i just use chalk, but since shrugs are coming late in my back workout, my hands are pretty fried by that point, and I consider my grip strength to be superior to my trap development.[/quote]

For forearm & grip strength try throwing in towl pull ups on your back days… We used to do these in my Judo days great for grip strength… Also pinch grip plates & hold till failure do this with rubber plates over a good mat :slight_smile: Your forearms will be on fire