150 protein, 150 carbs and 50 fat?
That is nothing.
Where did you start out at?
How long has it taken you to drop your calories this low?
Do you do cardio?
How long have you been working with your world renowned shoulder trainer specialist?
Sorry for the question bombardment.
Where in California are you?
Ok, I have gone back through this thread and several things are making me think some fishy is going on here:
- You were a 5’3" middle school kid who could grab the rim
- You have been working with a world renowned S&C coach who is a shoulder specialist for 7+ months (since last fall) and have the DYEL look (not intended to be an insult)
- You are 5’6 165 pound self proclaimed skinny fat bastard who works in a very secretive security position where you regularly are taking guys down and grappling.
- You said you were able to do multiple rep pull ups with 30% of your body weight added on and you pull nearly 3 times your body weight but look completely untrained (again, not attempting to insult you. I am just stating what your photo shows)
- You said you don’t hit your legs because they grow so fast that they make all your pants skin tight.
This all seems very fishy to me along with your complete dismissal of almost all advice and input given out when your original post even says “all advice or input is welcome.”
I am all for you reaching your goal of shedding body weight but there are too many red flags in this thread already.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ok, I have gone back through this thread and several things are making me think some fishy is going on here:
- You were a 5’3" middle school kid who could grab the rim
- You have been working with a world renowned S&C coach who is a shoulder specialist for 7+ months (since last fall) and have the DYEL look (not intended to be an insult)
- You are 5’6 165 pound self proclaimed skinny fat bastard who works in a very secretive security position where you regularly are taking guys down and grappling.
- You said you were able to do multiple rep pull ups with 30% of your body weight added on and you pull nearly 3 times your body weight but look completely untrained (again, not attempting to insult you. I am just stating what your photo shows)
- You said you don’t hit your legs because they grow so fast that they make all your pants skin tight.
This all seems very fishy to me along with your complete dismissal of almost all advice and input given out when your original post even says “all advice or input is welcome.”
I am all for you reaching your goal of shedding body weight but there are too many red flags in this thread already.[/quote]
NICE
to the OP… multiple people who lift (just look at their avi) have basically given you advice on what to do and you seem to come up with excuses on why you don’t wanna do that. I am still confused about your goals and everything because you’re being very VAGUE
So we know you have shoulder issues and that you have a coach, but we also know that whatever you have been doing has clearly not worked (judging on the picture you put up)… again, no disrespect, just point out what we see
So What exactly is your goal? Please be specific and tell us CLEARLY if you truly want to get help.
Do you want to lose weight for asthetic reason?
Are you competing in some sort of MMA and wanna lose weight to make a certain weight class?
Are you losing weight to be better at your job?
Just please give one clear sentence on what your goal is
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
NICE
to the OP… multiple people who lift (just look at their avi) have basically given you advice on what to do and you seem to come up with excuses on why you don’t wanna do that. I am still confused about your goals and everything because you’re being very VAGUE[/quote]
multiple people who lift have time and time again stated their opinions on whether my routine and or me gaining size and getting bigger. If seems as if I’m making excuses, then my apologizes. However I did not ask for whether I need to change my routine or whether I need to gain mass. I asked to lose fat, and I have gotten very few responses in regard to my diet.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
So we know you have shoulder issues and that you have a coach, but we also know that whatever you have been doing has clearly not worked (judging on the picture you put up)… again, no disrespect, just point out what we see
So What exactly is your goal? Please be specific and tell us CLEARLY if you truly want to get help. [/quote]
I want to lose fat.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
Do you want to lose weight for asthetic reason?
Are you competing in some sort of MMA and wanna lose weight to make a certain weight class?
Are you losing weight to be better at your job?
Just please give one clear sentence on what your goal is
[/quote]
I really don"t see the difference between those 3, I mean losing fat is losing fat.
But since I need to pick. I’ll pick for asthetic reasons.
Feel free to ask for anything else.
okay, so if you wanna lose fat for aesthetic reasons, im assuming you lift weights to look good?
I think what people are trying to tell you is that looking good and loosing fat are not necessarily the same thing. If you wanna lose fat to look good, you’re going to need to have muscle underneath that fat. Judging based on your pic, you don’t appear to have any muscle, so you loosing fat will just make you look skinnier. That’s why people are talking more about your routine.
And i want to repeat this, your attitude of “oh i didnt ask for help on my routine” needs to go. If you really wanna succeed in ANYTHING, you have to be open to what people have to say. If you were actually getting results on your routine, then you have every right to stay on that routine. But by the looks of it, you have made very little progress.
actually, i just read that you were in an accident. Sorry about that man. How long has it been since you’ve been lifting after the accident?
How long have you been following the routine that guy made for you?
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ok, I have gone back through this thread and several things are making me think some fishy is going on here:
- You were a 5’3" middle school kid who could grab the rim
- You have been working with a world renowned S&C coach who is a shoulder specialist for 7+ months (since last fall) and have the DYEL look (not intended to be an insult)
- You are 5’6 165 pound self proclaimed skinny fat bastard who works in a very secretive security position where you regularly are taking guys down and grappling.
- You said you were able to do multiple rep pull ups with 30% of your body weight added on and you pull nearly 3 times your body weight but look completely untrained (again, not attempting to insult you. I am just stating what your photo shows)
- You said you don’t hit your legs because they grow so fast that they make all your pants skin tight.
This all seems very fishy to me along with your complete dismissal of almost all advice and input given out when your original post even says “all advice or input is welcome.”
I am all for you reaching your goal of shedding body weight but there are too many red flags in this thread already.[/quote]
1.-5. seems the things not concerning my diet are of utmost importance in this thread.
And I’m sorry I’m not going to address each point, I feel as though that would further send this thread into tailspin about something other than diet. But if you want me to say that those statements are false then so be it. I came here for some diet advice, not to validate my myself, my “lifts” if I even have any worth crap, or my career.
But for point 5. I never said “I don’t hit my legs because they grow so fast” I’ve posted my routine for people to take jabs at along with the rest of the points that seem so fishy.
I honestly don’t understand how these points help with my fat loss, my routine may have a post exercise oxygen consumption or whatever that is called, but I highly doubt that is of that significant importance compared to what I’m putting into my mouth.
But as always thanks for . . . well at least posting.
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ok, I have gone back through this thread and several things are making me think some fishy is going on here:
- You were a 5’3" middle school kid who could grab the rim
- You have been working with a world renowned S&C coach who is a shoulder specialist for 7+ months (since last fall) and have the DYEL look (not intended to be an insult)
- You are 5’6 165 pound self proclaimed skinny fat bastard who works in a very secretive security position where you regularly are taking guys down and grappling.
- You said you were able to do multiple rep pull ups with 30% of your body weight added on and you pull nearly 3 times your body weight but look completely untrained (again, not attempting to insult you. I am just stating what your photo shows)
- You said you don’t hit your legs because they grow so fast that they make all your pants skin tight.
This all seems very fishy to me along with your complete dismissal of almost all advice and input given out when your original post even says “all advice or input is welcome.”
I am all for you reaching your goal of shedding body weight but there are too many red flags in this thread already.[/quote]
1.-5. seems the things not concerning my diet are of utmost importance in this thread.
And I’m sorry I’m not going to address each point, I feel as though that would further send this thread into tailspin about something other than diet. But if you want me to say that those statements are false then so be it. I came here for some diet advice, not to validate my myself, my “lifts” if I even have any worth crap, or my career.
But for point 5. I never said “I don’t hit my legs because they grow so fast” I’ve posted my routine for people to take jabs at along with the rest of the points that seem so fishy.
I honestly don’t understand how these points help with my fat loss, my routine may have a post exercise oxygen consumption or whatever that is called, but I highly doubt that is of that significant importance compared to what I’m putting into my mouth.
But as always thanks for . . . well at least posting.[/quote]
All of those points do actually matter because something doesn’t add up.
You supposedly work out hard for 2 hours 4 days a week.
You Deadlift nearly 3 times your body weight.
You do pull ups for reps with 30% of your body weighted added.
You work a very physically demanding job.
You are working with a world renown S&C coach.
You consume 1,650 calories a day from “clean” sources.
You are 15-20% bodyfat.
Those do not add up.
also young n are you indian? I am pakistani and i have this weird theory (it’s all broscience so please so attack on me lol) that a lot of south asian people are gluten intolerant and you could look fat cause of that. I cut out gluten earlier this year and I have made a lot of progress since then, so maybe give that a shot
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]KingKai25 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ok…without clear goals, no one can help.
The “I don’t lift for size but am trying to maintain weight for sports” thing is played out unless you really belong to a sports team. Judging your developmet, it does not look like you spend much time playing sports…but I could be wrong.
Without some more size on you, skinny fat will be some of the best you can do without really dropping weight quite a bit.[/quote]
I would have thought he might be a swimmer - that workout looks like the kind of garbage I’ve seen a lot of swimming coaches hand out - but whatever his athletic potential, he’s not really tall enough to be a professional swimmer.[/quote]
I would expect a workout like that for actors on Glee.
No offense, OP.[/quote]
What are you talking about? He probably selected it from one of the recent articles…have you been reading those programs lately?! Lol.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
1.150 protein, 150 carbs and 50 fat?
That is nothing.
2.Where did you start out at?
3.How long has it taken you to drop your calories this low?
4.Do you do cardio?
5.How long have you been working with your world renowned shoulder trainer specialist?
Sorry for the question bombardment.
6.Where in California are you?[/quote]
2.I can’t really recall where I started at, I’ve been doing this (150/150/50) since I started pretty much, which was in late January. Before that I was not tracking anything.
3. I pretty much started out here and have been here since.
4. Yes I do 2 energy systems days consisting/consisted of interval bike, interval rowing, 300 yd shuttle runs, and the elliptical.
5. Since last fall.
6. Nor cal
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
okay, so if you wanna lose fat for aesthetic reasons, im assuming you lift weights to look good?[/quote]
I lift weights to become strong(er) , I know I will get more shit for this.
But no, I’m not lifting weights to look “gud nekid”
Maybe at the time I had started lifting that was the reason. But not now. My training is based around my work. Me and my coach have well defined goals and I trust what he is giving me.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
I think what people are trying to tell you is that looking good and loosing fat are not necessarily the same thing. If you wanna lose fat to look good, you’re going to need to have muscle underneath that fat. Judging based on your pic, you don’t appear to have any muscle, so you loosing fat will just make you look skinnier. That’s why people are talking more about your routine. [/quote]
Yes I understand, and I have said that if I look as if I don’t lift then so be it. I just want to lose fat. If I look like I’m starving after leaning up then that is fine with me. I know I said earlier that I wanted to compete in a certain weight class, but Let me just take that back, it seems the more I try to share my thoughts the more discombobulated this thread gets.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
And i want to repeat this, your attitude of “oh i didnt ask for help on my routine” needs to go. If you really wanna succeed in ANYTHING, you have to be open to what people have to say. If you were actually getting results on your routine, then you have every right to stay on that routine. But by the looks of it, you have made very little progress.
[/quote]
My apologizes, but I don’t understand why
I’m having to “defend” my routine.
People seem to pushing mass upon me, is it wrong for me to say that that isn’t what I asked for.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
All of those points do actually matter because something doesn’t add up.
You supposedly work out hard for 2 hours 4 days a week.
You Deadlift nearly 3 times your body weight.
You do pull ups for reps with 30% of your body weighted added.
You work a very physically demanding job.
You are working with a world renown S&C coach.
You consume 1,650 calories a day from “clean” sources.
You are 15-20% bodyfat.
Those do not add up. [/quote]
Thanks I see that myself.
I really don’t know how to answer or reply to that.
What kind of answer are you looking for?
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Yep.
Definite troll job.
It was good while it lasted though.
Way better than USAWCHAMP’s hair loss thread.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
actually, i just read that you were in an accident. Sorry about that man. How long has it been since you’ve been lifting after the accident?
How long have you been following the routine that guy made for you?
[/quote]
The accident screwed up my left shoulder further. accident was april of last year, went to rehab for a while, and has cleared to go to the weight room and “test” out grappling. I tried it out and didn’t feel comfortable enough to resume my grappling. Shoulder felt loose while grappling. So decided to “strength” it up. And now that I have returned to grappling my shoulder feels better (I feel more confident knowing that I won’t hurt myself.)
Since I returned to grappling I want to enter a tournament/ compete. Its not a necessity, but I thought it would be fun to get back into the swing of things. Hence I also want to lose fat so maybe I might be able to compete in a lower weight class. But the competing and everything is just a fun goal. That is not my main priority. My first priority is being healthy enough for my line of work.
That is just a routine for 1 month. I get a new one every 4 weeks. I’ve been with this coach since last fall. And my goal wasn’t to get big. It is to “strength my shoulders” to the point where I can return to grappling. which has obvious been working.
I hope I made sense with the above post.
Thanks
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Yep.
Definite troll job.
It was good while it lasted though.
Way better than USAWCHAMP’s hair loss thread.[/quote]
Glad I could be of entertainment.
[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
also young n are you indian? I am pakistani and i have this weird theory (it’s all broscience so please so attack on me lol) that a lot of south asian people are gluten intolerant and you could look fat cause of that. I cut out gluten earlier this year and I have made a lot of progress since then, so maybe give that a shot [/quote]
No not indian. As far as the gluten thing is involved I think I actually strive for it.
I know being on a keto diet (I’ve tried it) eliminates gluten mostly but I’ve noticed when I don’t eat gluten I feel like shit, the same with carbs, I once tried an elimination diet a good few years back, because I was having some GI distress, so that is what I base my previous statement off of.
[quote]young n wrote:
[quote]jskrabac wrote:
I think y’all stuck in a troll thread guys…
[/quote]
Was hoping you could help with the diet part.
But oh well
Thanks anyway for stopping by.[/quote]
You’re not here to get help though =/