Evans vs. Jackson

Training
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[quote]jtrinsey wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
Amir should make a more integrated approach to his training, or he’s gonna get cut…[/quote]

I think the chances of Amir getting cut in the next couples years is virtually none. He’s too popular, people love his personality, etc. He’s also a good fighter. He’s 3-2 in the UFC and he’s fought pretty good competition. Hendricks is probably the top prospect at 170, so no shame in that loss, and Kim is a very respected fighter. He did pick apart Baroni and Blackburn standing up too.

I like Sadalloh, I just don’t think he’s the same caliber of athlete as the guys at the top are. I think he’ll have a long-career as a mid-level guy though.

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fair enough…i agree with ya here.

i think one of the mistakes he makes in trying to be a striker is simply not having KO power…

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]rundymc wrote:
I think he’s on the smaller side myself. Griffin, Chuck, Tito, and Page are bigger. His legs obviously have some power in them, but they don’t look that big for his frame. The bench mark for huge in LHW is Griffin, a guy who starts his camp at 240 or so. Shad is significantly smaller than Forrest in their fight, until he was on top TKOing his ass.[/quote]

Rashad is just short…that’s it. He does have huge legs and long arms for his frame.

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yup…most of the LHW guys are around 6’2" to 6’4"…Rashad’s able to utilize his reach and quickness, but otherwise i don’t think he would be able to hang in that division. i’m curious as to what those guys’ rehyrdrated weight is…

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I have been wanting yellow cards for the ufc for the past year now… honestly I wanted them to adopt pride rules for scoring as well as… Soccer kicks, knees, and no elbows on the ground.

As far as rampage vs rashad I want to see another meeting because this one wasn’t a good showing for either imo… and I can’t stand the way rashad fights… crane style is strong in him… humph…

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[quote]Amiright wrote:
… honestly I wanted them to adopt pride rules for scoring as well as… Soccer kicks, knees, and no elbows on the ground.
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You think fighters play it safe now…

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Man…I misread that fight badly.

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I’m really surprised Diego looked the way he did. I think he either A) didn’t train hard for this fight (which I’m sure he did) or B) underestimated Hathaway.

Brilz got robbed, he won that fight (although I was pulling for Small Nog). Brilz should start getting some better opponents.

Russow, WOW what a comeback!!! Duffee looked really solid the whole fight, but Russow hit him on the button. Impressive. I’m glad Russow admitted he didn’t have a great fight and is going back to the gym to improve.

Bisping looked pretty good. Surprised Miller didn’t take it to the ground earlier.

Rashad looked pretty good, Page looked to have a little ring rust. He was gracious in defeat though, so that was cool.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
So does Todd Duffee also hold the record for fastest hype-train derail?? [/quote]

Kimbo?

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Don’t know why there’s so much hate for Rashad he’s a nice guy. All that booing and shit, please. And of course Rashad can hang in the LHW division…to my understanding the LHW champ right now (shogun) isn’t 6’2 or 6’4. If it mattered so much Forrest should be champ all the time.

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Don’t matter that much. Rashad is 5’11, far from being “short”.

If this was the HW division, with monsters like carwin and lesnar, yeah, he’d be overpowered, but in LHW, being a few inches shorter than the 6’4 guys probably works to his advantage as he gets in and out of the pocket easier.

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[quote]drewh wrote:
GSP just has great symmetry and has the illusion of size. Well balanced legs, Big round shoulders, good shape to biceps and lat width. Now a person with some big legs is Tyson Griffin as JOe Rogan said he has a badonkadonk.

On another note propr to Rashad, but does anyone else want Pride rules back? Title fights are losing their luster.

Shogun vs Rashad thoughts?[/quote]

Yellow cards won’t make a diff in title fights, unless your name is Anderson Silva (in which case you’ll do just enough to not get one, heh). But really, I can’t remember title fight that warranted a yellow card. GSP/Hardy was pretty active on the ground despite the lack of damage (it was like a high paced roll in a cage). Penn/Edgar were constantly engaging, albeit with little damage or heavy risk taking on both sides.
The guys who are most susceptible are the guys who clinch against the fence a lot, hunting for the TD or looking for openings to strike or throw. Couture comes to mind, but it’s an extreme example. His fight with Brandon was as boring as they come.

Rashad will probably get KO’ed against Shogun in a five round fight. I see him not engaging on the feet too much, timing the leg kick and shooting in. He’ll look to dominate position on the ground, and based on how good his BJJ is relative to Shogun, will either dominate or get reversed. This will continue until Evans gets hit with a good shot coming in.
Shogun is a very dynamic striker, with crappy takedown defense, great ground game, and knockout power. He’ll be hard to hold at the bottom and is dangerous on the top. It’s a tough fight for Evans, but I’ll be rooting for him.

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I think he would’ve gotten KO’d if this fight was 5 rounds.

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[quote]drewh wrote:
I think he would’ve gotten KO’d if this fight was 5 rounds.[/quote]

QFT I still don’t get why rampage didn’t finish… he just stopped punching… he didn’t look horribly gassed either. The only thing I could come up with his the way rashad was positions… holding rampages shorts etc… maybe rampage feared a sweep… but whatever.

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Evans looked like a one trick pony the whole fight and I agree with the yellow card for excessive clinch, Rampage appeared to be playing it safe as Amiright said, he had great potential to finish the fight but he just stopped punching

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[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]jtrinsey wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
Amir should make a more integrated approach to his training, or he’s gonna get cut…[/quote]

I think the chances of Amir getting cut in the next couples years is virtually none. He’s too popular, people love his personality, etc. He’s also a good fighter. He’s 3-2 in the UFC and he’s fought pretty good competition. Hendricks is probably the top prospect at 170, so no shame in that loss, and Kim is a very respected fighter. He did pick apart Baroni and Blackburn standing up too.

I like Sadalloh, I just don’t think he’s the same caliber of athlete as the guys at the top are. I think he’ll have a long-career as a mid-level guy though.

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fair enough…i agree with ya here.

i think one of the mistakes he makes in trying to be a striker is simply not having KO power…[/quote]

maybe you should tell that to Diaz

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
I think Sanchez moves back down he looked small and weak.[/quote]

He needs a kick in the ass and somebody to tell him his striking(and footwork) is in the stone ages…AND he needs to move back down. He’s gonna get murdered at 170,imo. [/quote]

He had a good stroll through 170, he wasn’t able to put his gameplan(if you ask me stupid as fuck, nobody comes from a loss and still don’t train), as for his shape, of course he is going to came less ripped than when he was at 155lbs

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Rampage wouldn’t have made it through 5 rounds…he would have continued to get taken down and smashed. He stopped punching because he was tired…not because he was playing it safe. When has Rampage ever “played it safe” in a dominant position with a dazed opponent?

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
I think Sanchez moves back down he looked small and weak.[/quote]

He needs a kick in the ass and somebody to tell him his striking(and footwork) is in the stone ages…AND he needs to move back down. He’s gonna get murdered at 170,imo. [/quote]

He had a good stroll through 170, he wasn’t able to put his gameplan(if you ask me stupid as fuck, nobody comes from a loss and still don’t train), as for his shape, of course he is going to came less ripped than when he was at 155lbs[/quote]

I’m talking about skills…not being “ripped” or whatever you meant…I’m not quite sure to what your point is with that…lol.

Anyways,yeah…he had a good “stroll” through 170. BUT like I touched on…he’s in the stone ages in comparison to Florian,Fitch,Koscheck,etc. Which is retarded…because he has the ability to be on their level. Whoever is training him…has to be failing him somehow,imo…OR maybe it’s just his arrogance(and weirdness) catching up with him. I don’t get it.

He should have never left Greg Jackson’s camp,imo.

In a interview before UFC 114:

I asked myself, “what got me there, what got me in the UFC, what got me to The Ultimate Fighter, what got me through The Ultimate Fighter, and what got me to the top of the UFC 170-pound division?” It was just that hard working energy of Albuquerque and having my mom and my dad, and having that love around me all the time."

No,it was Greg Jackson. I can understand having the energy of being home and all,but how can you disregard the biggest part of what got you to the top…?? People can criticize Jackson and all,but he would get more out of Diego than whomever he’s currently training with.

He better figure his shit out if he plans on competing again at 170. He’s not ready for Alves,Koscheck,Fitch…and definitely not GSP. Hathaway was no slouch(13-0…right?)…but Diego didn’t show anything that could give him a chance against the current top guys at 170.

Hell,would he even beat Anthony Johnson,Kevin Burns,Daley…??? Think about it.

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[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
Don’t matter that much. Rashad is 5’11, far from being “short”.

If this was the HW division, with monsters like carwin and lesnar, yeah, he’d be overpowered, but in LHW, being a few inches shorter than the 6’4 guys probably works to his advantage as he gets in and out of the pocket easier.[/quote]

I doubt Rashad is even 5’11…maybe 5’9…and weighs around 220…but it’s not that big of a deal as you say.

BUT I do have a feeling that wrestling/takedowns against bigger LHW guys wears him down. But that’s only my conclusion after his fights with Tito…and with Thiago Silva…who are “bigger” LHWs.

I think he would have gassed a bit trying to take Rampage down if it had been 5 rounds…BUT Rampage would have gassed even more.

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[quote]kaisermetal wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]drewh wrote:
I think Sanchez moves back down he looked small and weak.[/quote]

He needs a kick in the ass and somebody to tell him his striking(and footwork) is in the stone ages…AND he needs to move back down. He’s gonna get murdered at 170,imo. [/quote]

He had a good stroll through 170, he wasn’t able to put his gameplan(if you ask me stupid as fuck, nobody comes from a loss and still don’t train), as for his shape, of course he is going to came less ripped than when he was at 155lbs[/quote]

Not sure what you mean with that ‘come from a loss’ comment, but I agree.
Deigo is undersized for WW. He’s not an elite wrestler and his striking isn’t good. These weaknesses are like a triumvirate of doom in the WW division (huge guys, great strikers, elite wrestlers).

You can’t be an undersized ground specialist anymore. He needs to move down to LW and focus on his boxing, which has always been stiff, jerky and unnatural. If he does this he will be able to make an impact in that division.

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Either way I’m happy Rashad won, Rampage stole 10 bucks from me when I was 16…but I guess he made up for it when he threw a t-shirt at me. But he was very normal to talk to without the antics and just chilled out for a good half hour if not more. maybe even an hour…i can’t remember lol

Rampage: I’ll give ya 10 bucks if you get this right…What is Bruce Lee’s favourite drink?
Me: Ummm…
My friend: I dunno…water?
Rampage: No it’s…WATA!!! You lose

lol this is all completely irrelevant.