[quote]WolBarret wrote:
So you really think that there is no difference between his constant training and one on one coaching compared to the 2 hour dvd regular people may buy and learn from. [quote]
His constant one on one coaching? First of all, who says its one on one? Martin Rooney and Joe DeFranco, both of whom work with NFL athletes and prospects, dont do 1 on 1 training, they do group training. Second of all, what do you mean by constant? This kid isnt working out 24/7; I wont pretend to know his workout schedule but I WILL bet that he’s spending WAY more time outside of the weightroom than I am in the weightroom.
Is there a difference between the dvd and a coach? Only the ability to tweak the template to the individual. But if youre consistent and you work hard and you listen to your body you will find what works for you. Dont make this stuff into rocket science, it’s not.
When you say that youre getting tips from gym rats, it makes me think of the old saying about giving a fish vs teaching to fish. If you get in with a good crew of lifters, they dont “give you tips” they teach you how to think for yourself, the million minutely different forms of squatting … to even begin to describe it would do it an injustice, but it goes well beyond “tips”
Second of all, and more importantly, what the heck makes you think that these trainers are anything more than gym rats? Honestly, Ikei could be awesome for all I know. He could also suck. I’ve never heard of him or his system, so I have no desire to bash it. But again, when you have MAJOR college s&c guys advocating HIT, when another combine trainer’s biggest credential is that he was top 20 in the olympia one year, you simply cannot assume, “well, theyre the experts, they MUST know what theyre talking about.”
I suspect that the job of getting athletes ready for a combine is A LOT harder than any of us think, but I also suspect that there are a lot more shitty trainers than we would think as well. this ties in with their argument that its their job to make you better - well, not everyone is all that great at their job.
As for their certification? Well, I might be impressed if I had any idea what goes into it. You can get certified in ACE. the NASMs cert is a joke - all it means is that you cna pass a test, nothing more, nothing less.
the same as gym rats getting him ready for the draft? Well, that depends on your definition of gym rats. Cris Carter was a workout freak when he was in the nfl (after he cleaned up his act) and during his career and currently he runs a speed camp (i use that phrase for lack of a better word.) He doesnt have any fancy credentials, but he does have a LOT of experience - “gym rat” experience and know s what works, thats why NFL players go there.
Ask yourself, why do the miami hurricane alumni - edgerrin, shockey, moss, LOTS of others - continually return to the campus year after year, EVEN THO ITS A DIFFERENT STRENGTH COACH FROM WHEN THEY WERE THERE? It’s the environment and being around others who are going to push you.
I’ve never seen letters after Louies name, but westside has produced some of the best powerlifters in the world. I would argue that it is environment and the shared knowledge of the scores of guys who have said “try this exercise it worked for me” or “dont waste your time with that periodization scheme, it doesnt work”
It makes good sense for these guys to hire a combine trainer because you are paying for that knowledge and experience that you dont have time to acquire. If you’re NOT training for the combine tho, then theres no time frame on your development, and if you’re willing to put the effort in you’ll acqure that experience.