Lots of good stuff in there, thanks guys. Eat tons and lots of gym time also i am pushing him hard for 3 weeks would you suggest half intensity on the last week, maybe to get some over growth?
Thanks i got some good advice, I think i will make sure he just eats a ton and and lifts like crazy. also would you suggest hitting the gym hard for the 3 weeks and then the 4 week going half intensity for some over growth.
just because prohormones are legal and can be bought over the counter does not make them safer than traditional aas. In fact most are less well understood and can have more negatative sides… I’d look over some of C_C’s posts and like the others said just have him eat like a maniac. Make sure his kitchen is well stocked and he is disciplined in the kitchen as well as the weight room.
What is the exact product you want this guy to take?
A prohormone is still a steroid. the only difference is that PH’s are not active in their current form and need to be converted in the body.
Are you saying that the name of a PH is ‘Testosterone’? Utah has some fucked up practices when it comes to supplement production. Your lobbyists suck balls.
What is the active chemical in the product?
this guy screams troll.
Is he going to be filmed with his shirt/clothes off, or mainly on. If he’s going to be fully clothed, it wont matter that much if he gains 10lbs of muscle and 10lbs of fat. In that case, he needs to be eating 5000 calories ASAP, and hitting the gym 3-4 times a week. Goal should be 3lbs of weight gain a week. If he has to remain lean, then this will be much harder if not impossible.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
What is the exact product you want this guy to take?
A prohormone is still a steroid. the only difference is that PH’s are not active in their current form and need to be converted in the body.
Are you saying that the name of a PH is ‘Testosterone’? Utah has some fucked up practices when it comes to supplement production. Your lobbyists suck balls.
What is the active chemical in the product? [/quote]
hahahah!
To be honest, I would be more comfortable if you had him take injectable testosterone than some piece of shit prohormone, but that doesn’t mean I like this idea at all.
If it actually works, I’m guessing he has no availability to an anti-estrogen or SERM to restart his own bodies test production when he comes off?
So…you probably just fucked your friend over.
Where’s I,Bodybuilder when you need it.
To summarize a few of the key points so far:
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The guy needs to eat like it’s his job… because it literally is.
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“Tons of reps maybe between 10 to 15 reps and lots of super sets” is not the best idea, at all. Keep it basic. You didn’t actually say whether or not he has any experience lifting.
If he’s never lifted before, keep things even more basic (that means well-designed, full body workouts). If he does have some experience, now would be the time to break out high intensity techniques (forced reps, rest-pause, etc.) to get the most benefit from heavy weights.
- If your first instinct to add size is to use Test (or a prohormone, or whatever it turns out you got him) before you even have a training or nutrition plan in place, you suck as a trainer and as a friend.
Seeing as how you’re a youth program supervisor, my fingers are crossed that none of your youngsters approach you and say they’re considering steroids. “Hey, hey, shoot up, Johnny!”
- The top priority, supplement-wise, that I’d go for in this situation (until the peri-workout plan is all sorted and available) would be a double-dose Surge plan.
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That’s in addition to fistfuls of food going down his gullet throughout the day.
give him some ANACONDA
Get him on the full protocol and when I BB comes out in a week or so force him to suffer through it so that once he gains the weight he’ll never touch a weight again. Remember Hugh Jackman at 205… work those shoulders, lats and traps…
Okay well i do have him on an anti estrogen and he will start 2 weeks before the cycle ends on a trubul to help his natural increase again as far as all that goes i have decent experience in it. However, i am just gonna not post any thing any more and just stick to articles for my own benefit and such.
I miss understood what this site was, which is totally my fault i thought it was an advice and tips kinda site and not a lets pick on people who cant defend them selves and assume things because they are states away. Also i did not know that utah was such a bad place and all mormons were skinny weak punks.
Anyway sorry i ruined your balance of all knowing members, who are on this site to give advice to other people who know everything. when i dont ever have a question about any thing maybe i can come back and participate in making fun of people who dont know as much as you guys.
I will do my best to learn and also learn some cool weight lifting jokes and Iron jargon so i can join your quest to keep small people small and big people big. Thanks for the help guys. I really value all of your opinion, and that is not sarcastic.
Fucking read this shit; Strength Training, Bodybuilding & Online Supplement Store - T NATION there’s a part about putting on muscle asap. disregard the parts about losing weight/cut, and just use the cardio sessions to eat more food.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
this guy screams troll. [/quote]
he looks like the guy from last night’s TUF, Justin Wren
[quote]sonnynlewis wrote:
Okay well i do have him on an anti estrogen and he will start 2 weeks before the cycle ends on a trubul to help his natural increase again as far as all that goes i have decent experience in it. However, i am just gonna not post any thing any more and just stick to articles for my own benefit and such.
I miss understood what this site was, which is totally my fault i thought it was an advice and tips kinda site and not a lets pick on people who cant defend them selves and assume things because they are states away. Also i did not know that utah was such a bad place and all mormons were skinny weak punks.
Anyway sorry i ruined your balance of all knowing members, who are on this site to give advice to other people who know everything. when i dont ever have a question about any thing maybe i can come back and participate in making fun of people who dont know as much as you guys.
I will do my best to learn and also learn some cool weight lifting jokes and Iron jargon so i can join your quest to keep small people small and big people big. Thanks for the help guys. I really value all of your opinion, and that is not sarcastic. [/quote]
You have to understand one thing, we get trolls coming in here of all shapes and sizes trying to start a ruckus. I honestly don’t know what possessed me to state that about Mormons, lol. I used to live in Utah, beautiful place. Miss the valley surrounded by mountains where I lived! Well anyways, good luck!
BulletproofTiger i was thinking the same thing…
[quote]sonnynlewis wrote:
Okay well i do have him on an anti estrogen and he will start 2 weeks before the cycle ends on a trubul to help his natural increase again as far as all that goes i have decent experience in it. However, i am just gonna not post any thing any more and just stick to articles for my own benefit and such.
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If you are indeed giving your friend a biologically active hormonal product than you are putting him at risk of side effects because of your lack of knowledge.
What the hell is an anti estrogen? Are you talking about a SERM or an AI? Does the prohormone even aromatize?
Tribulus useless for restarting natural T production after steroid use. A SERM is the proper drug to use.
I seriously hope you are confusing a regular BS supplement with a real pro-hormone or designer steroid.
[quote]sonnynlewis wrote:
Okay well i do have him on an anti estrogen and he will start 2 weeks before the cycle ends on a trubul to help his natural increase again as far as all that goes i have decent experience in it. However, i am just gonna not post any thing any more and just stick to articles for my own benefit and such.
I miss understood what this site was, which is totally my fault i thought it was an advice and tips kinda site and not a lets pick on people who cant defend them selves and assume things because they are states away. Also i did not know that utah was such a bad place and all mormons were skinny weak punks.
Anyway sorry i ruined your balance of all knowing members, who are on this site to give advice to other people who know everything. when i dont ever have a question about any thing maybe i can come back and participate in making fun of people who dont know as much as you guys.
I will do my best to learn and also learn some cool weight lifting jokes and Iron jargon so i can join your quest to keep small people small and big people big. Thanks for the help guys. I really value all of your opinion, and that is not sarcastic. [/quote]
So you have access to arimidex and nolvadex then? What I’m reading is you have him on some OTC anti estrogen and you plan on his PCT just being tribulus, which will not do a damn thing.
I’m giving you shit because you are messing with someone elses hormones and have no idea what you are doing, even though for some reason you do because you went to GNC and bought a bottle off the shelf.
Eat only 3 HUGE meals a day with copious amounts of ice cream before bed.
lol