[quote]Zell959 wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_325x15_60seconds
What the Hell? That entire video wasn’t bad at all. Awww man, I think it’s over. I think he’s learned. I mean good for him and all, but, who will take his place. Theres that clip of the guy floating in the air doing cable crossovers, but thats it.[/quote]
dude, direct me to this clip you talk of? the crossover clip? i gotta see it
Ah, I see. That makes sense. Thanks.
This video of the 15 reps highlights some of your problems. You can see as you do more reps you use less leg and more back. Also, you are bouncing your reps. This is probably desired for a strongman comp. however it won’t help your strength as much as letting the weight fully stop on the floor. Usually the weight will hit the floor twice between each rep. The weight initially hits the floor rebounds slights and hits again. If you here it hit the floor twice it makes the next rep harder.
You need to work on involving your legs more like my previous comment below.
[quote]Seattle_lifter wrote:
DW,
Nice work on improving your form and gaining strength. A couple things I saw that might help. Your feet on the 405x5 look like they are too far apart. It seems like your knees we coming together.
Second, for the start of the lift it looks like you are jerking it off the floor causing you legs to straighten to fast relative to your hips. Try getting very tight and squeezing the bar off the floor. This should help you get in a better anatomical position for the top portion. At this point I don’t think rack lock outs will help since your are able to get yourself into a different anatomical position that your full range pulls.
Another training option would be with chains or reverse band deadlift. Then you would have full range of motion but be able to get the benefit of the greater weight at the top.[/quote]
A deadlift suit mostly just shoves your balls up your arse and makes you never want to wear it again. And I can tell from that crappy video that DW’s suit is fitted poorly and he is probably getting jack out of it.[/quote]
im sure a poorly fitted suit would have to give you something, ive never worn one i assumed all suits give enormous amounts of weight to ur lifts.
i get 5kg (10lbs) out of a belt if i use one, rarly do.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_325x15_60seconds[/quote]
Take the half second to reset properly between reps. By that I mean focus on sticking your chest out so that your hips get all the way down. Your first rep has you in a decent position but then it turns into more of an RDL as the reps increase. If you partially sit into the position on the descent, then it will take only a fraction of a second to reset. Moreover, you will get at least a little bit of that pop out of the hole from the stretch reflex in the hips.
Guys, I bounce and do the reps fast because that’s how people compete in strongman shows when doing that event.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
Guys, I bounce and do the reps fast because that’s how people compete in strongman shows when doing that event.[/quote]
That’s true, and that will work your lockout because you get a little bounce but at some point your strength off the floor will start to suffer. I suggest doing it both ways.
Are they also allowed to do a double knee bend?
beef
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
Guys, I bounce and do the reps fast because that’s how people compete in strongman shows when doing that event.[/quote]
DW,
It is actually best to save the bouncing for the actual competition. Well, it isn’t a bad idea to do it once in a while for practice of the motion but generally try to set yourself for each rep to help strengthen yourself through the entire movement. I bounce the bar like Tigger bouncing around the 100-acre woods at a competition, but for training it just isn’t ideal.
Regards,
Sensless
[quote]fatguy99 wrote:
Well it would make sense that since it’s so tight that when you bend down it gets even tighter, then as you go to stand up (getting the weight off the floor) it will help “shoot you up” the way a squat suit helps shoot you up out of the hole, and a bench shirt helps you shoot the weight up off your chest. Does that make sense? [/quote]
In theory maybe but not in practice - its just too damn difficult to get in position and what you’re describing in a sense is a rebound effect - and there is no true rebound because the DL is a bottom up lift. Your forcing yourself into position - if you can get there - is not enough to generate any appreciable rebound force; it is far more likely to put you in a disadvantaged position to pull.
[quote]TTewell342 wrote:
fatguy99 wrote:
Well it would make sense that since it’s so tight that when you bend down it gets even tighter, then as you go to stand up (getting the weight off the floor) it will help “shoot you up” the way a squat suit helps shoot you up out of the hole, and a bench shirt helps you shoot the weight up off your chest. Does that make sense?
The reason it doesn’t give you a great carryover is because you don’t get an actual “rebound” from the suit because there is no negative to the lift. It only gives you support at the bottom and makes it nearly impossible to get in proper position. If the deadlift started from the top then was lowered and brought back up then you may start seeing actual carryover’s from DL suits.[/quote]
LOL JUST WHAT HE SAID! I posted mine before I read yours - but you said it better and you’re right - if the lift started at the top, the suit would work! Nice post.
[quote]superscience wrote:
A deadlift suit mostly just shoves your balls up your arse and makes you never want to wear it again. And I can tell from that crappy video that DW’s suit is fitted poorly and he is probably getting jack out of it.
im sure a poorly suit would have to give you something, ive never worn one i assumed all suits give enormous amounts of weight to ur lifts.
i get 5kg (10lbs) out of a belt if i use one, rarly do. [/quote]
I haven’t worn a DL suit in years and I don’t know if they changed much but they didn’t fit like a typical squat suit - in other words, they were tight in the crotch, not so tight thru the hips and the straps were kinda tight; in other words, if you viewed one in comparison to what you expect of a squat suit fit wise, you’d conclude that it was ill fitting when in fact it was designed to fit that way. Again, I think they’re worthless.
I have the same Metal Deadlifter that he wears, and I can tell from where it comes down on his thighs it is WAY too big to give anything to his lifts.
His came practically down to his knees and he can put the straps up and down with ease. Mine is a bit too small now, but when it fit right it came down maybe 3 inches from the crease of my hip and it took my training partner practically picking me up off the ground to get the straps up all the way.
[quote]mattwray wrote:
I have the same Metal Deadlifter that he wears, and I can tell from where it comes down on his thighs it is WAY too big to give anything to his lifts.
His came practically down to his knees and he can put the straps up and down with ease. Mine is a bit too small now, but when it fit right it came down maybe 3 inches from the crease of my hip and it took my training partner practically picking me up off the ground to get the straps up all the way.
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I use a Metal Squatter, not Metal Deadlifter and in the videos, you saw my compression shorts on my lower thighs, not the suit.
[quote]doogie wrote:
I didn’t want to start another thread, so I’m hijacking this one.
I almost had to hit a kid in the gym today. He wanted to spot me on my deadlifts. I’m pulling and he comes up behind me, reaches around and puts one hand on my chest and one on my lower back. I dropped the weight, turned around and shoved him back about 10 feet. I swear to god, he looks at me and says, “yea bro! you almost had it!”
I cooled off and explained to the idiot that he is an idiot and that he will eventually get killed touching people who don’t want to be touched.[/quote]
Did you key his car? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
doogie wrote:
I didn’t want to start another thread, so I’m hijacking this one.
I almost had to hit a kid in the gym today. He wanted to spot me on my deadlifts. I’m pulling and he comes up behind me, reaches around and puts one hand on my chest and one on my lower back. I dropped the weight, turned around and shoved him back about 10 feet. I swear to god, he looks at me and says, “yea bro! you almost had it!”
I cooled off and explained to the idiot that he is an idiot and that he will eventually get killed touching people who don’t want to be touched.
Did you key his car? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
DB[/quote]
Possibly. I have no way of knowing for sure.
[quote]beefcakemdphd wrote:
Are they also allowed to do a double knee bend?
beef[/quote]
Yes.
-Dan
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
mattwray wrote:
I have the same Metal Deadlifter that he wears, and I can tell from where it comes down on his thighs it is WAY too big to give anything to his lifts.
His came practically down to his knees and he can put the straps up and down with ease. Mine is a bit too small now, but when it fit right it came down maybe 3 inches from the crease of my hip and it took my training partner practically picking me up off the ground to get the straps up all the way.
I use a Metal Squatter, not Metal Deadlifter and in the videos, you saw my compression shorts on my lower thighs, not the suit.[/quote]
I doubt a metal squatter gives you anything unless you pull sumo.
Wow, I watched the vid.
Max, dude, I have one piece of guidance for you. You need to learn to respect the weight you are lifting. You are a light weight gu and are moving some heavy weights even for a lot of guys who outweigh you considerably. Treat the weight and the lift with more respect. Focus hard on getting 300lb pull that is perfect. Work on some Oly lifts.
respect man, you gots to have some respect to get some respect.
Other than that, I have no intention of commenting on the current video for review.
Oh, someone did mention a cover of ‘Have a Drink on Me’. Did we ever resolve who did that?
In a way, I miss the more spastic lifts DW used to post. But in earnest, I disagree with the haters this time- those are alright gym lifts. Personally, if I cannot finish a deadlift in the gym, I usually let it go so I have something left in me. Meet day is a different story of course. Yup- some were hitched- DW seems to know which ones weren’t kosher. Unlike some commentators, I don’t see anything that’s going to get him hurt- just some long ugly grinds at the top.
DW has the same pull as most tall, skinny conventional pullers- a fast rip from the floor, slowing at the knees, to a struggle for lock out. I know- I am the same way. Three ideas for DW- basically the same ones I am using now to address my deficits: He should try dipping his hips more and arching hard at the start so that he is sitting back into the pull- thereby using more leg drive and keeping the weight from drifting forward later ion the pull.
Train the top-end- do pulls with chains or bands, heavy RDLs, GMs and pull-throughs. Also, even though he is strong off the floor, if he were stronger off the floor, he could get over his knees easier- maybe do pulls for reps standing on 2 or 3 plates.