[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt.
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I call bullshit back.
When was this little portion added to IPF rules?
Hey DW, welcome back to the T-Nation circus. Your form does look considerably better, but it does still look like you’re starting with a considerably rounded back. I actually noticed the same thing happening with some of the lighter guys I worked with a little while back - the belt is what was causing the problems. You may try some heavy (85% maybe) singles without the belt to see if it doesn’t help, or maybe widen your stance just a little to make a little more room for the extra thickness from the belt. Helped them out a lot.
His lockouts looked fine for most strongman shows, btw, folks. Unless Dionne or Willie were judging, they’re almost IPF-strict.
-Dan
[quote]redsox348984 wrote:
he only hitched on the last rep of the 5. and he locked out his reps. are we not watching the same video???[/quote]
Guess not…
[quote]Adamsson wrote:
And well, if my 510 1RM excludes me from making comments, please, point me to that rule… 
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i wouldnt brag about deadlifting 510 in a suit, unless you weighed 140.
[quote]burt128 wrote:
Adamsson wrote:
Let me put this in understandable terms:
In my fed. (IPF) it is not allowed to pull the bar like he does up his tighs. Even if it is a smooth and slow movement, without hitching, it is not allowed as long as he drags the weights on his tighs.
Where does it say in the IPF rulebook that one cannot drag the bar up the thighs?
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I actually thought it was good form to do this. I even do this on my lightest lifts.
[quote]superscience wrote:
Adamsson wrote:
And well, if my 510 1RM excludes me from making comments, please, point me to that rule…
i wouldnt brag about deadlifting 510 in a suit, unless you weighed 140.[/quote]
why’s that?
[quote]wressler125 wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt.
I call bullshit back.
When was this little portion added to IPF rules? [/quote]
The lifter always gets the benefit of the doubt.
For as long as I’ve been lifting in the USAPL, part of the IPF, I’ve known about this rule.
[quote]firebug9 wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Never mind, I’ll do it for him. Relevant IPF deadlift rules:
Causes for Disqualification of a Dead Lift.
- Failure to stand erect with the shoulders back.
- Failure to lock the knees straight at the completion of the lift.
- Supporting the bar on the thighs during the performance of the lift. If the bar edges up the thigh but is
not supported this is not reason for disqualification. The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt
made by the referee.
On his first 4 lifts, I did not see him support the weight on his thighs…as you can see from the IPF rule book YOU ARE WRONG in your Norway interpretation of the rules…
I can’t even believe we are discussing his WEIGHT ROOM reps against the IPF rule book, but YOU did say they wouldn’t pass - and I call BULLSHIT.
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Next, the first four deadlifts would have passed in ANY federation. They were all good lifts.
I believe that the above comment is why the discussion of his lifts against the IPF rulebook began! And NO his first four lifts would not have passed in any Federation. As you do have to lock your knees and shoulders out for the lift to count. As you can also see by your post as well. So by your own admission the lifts would not have passed.
And to Ms. “I’m a national ref and wouldn’t pass any - you didn’t lock out”…what a fucking joke. He’s doing reps not a contest single and I do believe he locked out the first few…please stick to reffing 8 year old soccer games please. I’m a national ref - “nicca please”.
and as for this comment, if you train not locking out, when you go to a meet you will also not lock out! How many national, international or local meets have you competed in? What is your current World Ranking? Oh your not ranked…really, so many words from one who has not stepped on an international platform?
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Oh please stop your damn silliness; his knees now weren’t locked? Are we talking the damn 405x5 - are we watching the same damn video?
And finally, as a ref, you of all people should know you can’t make that kind of call from a damn video…just stop it cause its silly. its like the front ref trying to call depth on a squat - and to the other poster, defending you, i don’t care how much you helped other people, your position on this is just plain silly. the kid was repping a 5 rep max - his lifts were decent end of story.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
wressler125 wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt.
I call bullshit back.
When was this little portion added to IPF rules?
The lifter always gets the benefit of the doubt.
For as long as I’ve been lifting in the USAPL, part of the IPF, I’ve known about this rule. [/quote]
This jagoff doesn’t realize that I pulled those rules right from their rule book verbatim cut and paste.
I have only myself to blame b/c I always expect an intelligent informed dialogue and then after 3 pages of the thread I have to remember where I am and give up any hope of that dream.
And I need to find this Superscience dude so I can get me one of those deadlift suits that adds so much weight to my DL. LMFAO - where do they get these guys?
And one last shot to Ms. Ref - my point was never to tell him he was doing good or whatever the hell you posted - my point was that the negativity of the posting was why out of proportion to what I witnessed in those videos. Read my posts - I reluctantly defended him and admitted he has weaknesses and isn’t developed enought to make those attempts.
If only more people could read AND comprehend.
Wow, this thread really has turned into a shitstorm…
Since DW competes in STRONGMAN all of the crap about IPF rules is moot. Every one of his pulls would count in STRONGMAN.
Good job DW, 405x5 at 155lbs is pretty damn good. Also, taking your 1RM and turning it into a 5RM is some good improvement. Is Marunde still giving you advice and/or helping you out?
Regards,
Sensless
[quote]sensless wrote:
Since DW competes in STRONGMAN all of the crap about IPF rules is moot. Every one of his pulls would count in STRONGMAN.
Good job DW, 405x5 at 155lbs is pretty damn good. Also, taking your 1RM and turning it into a 5RM is some good improvement. Is Marunde still giving you advice and/or helping you out?
Regards,
Sensless[/quote]
I maintain a training journal in his message board, but he only made one post in it. However, I receive help from a bunch of strongman competitors on that board.
[quote]sensless wrote:
Since DW competes in STRONGMAN all of the crap about IPF rules is moot. Every one of his pulls would count in STRONGMAN.
Good job DW, 405x5 at 155lbs is pretty damn good. Also, taking your 1RM and turning it into a 5RM is some good improvement. Is Marunde still giving you advice and/or helping you out?
Regards,
Sensless[/quote]
I have to agree with this. 405x5 at 150 is pretty strong.
I too think the kid is nutty, but there is some definite attempt going on here to fix horrible form.
[quote]JD430 wrote:
sensless wrote:
Since DW competes in STRONGMAN all of the crap about IPF rules is moot. Every one of his pulls would count in STRONGMAN.
Good job DW, 405x5 at 155lbs is pretty damn good. Also, taking your 1RM and turning it into a 5RM is some good improvement. Is Marunde still giving you advice and/or helping you out?
Regards,
Sensless
I have to agree with this. 405x5 at 150 is pretty strong.
I too think the kid is nutty, but there is some definite attempt going on here to fix horrible form. [/quote]
475x1 aint too shabby either.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
475x1 aint too shabby either. ;)[/quote]
Yea, I bet you can’t wait to be able to deadlift it.
Sorry, that was just too easy.
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
475x1 aint too shabby either.
Yea, I bet you can’t wait to be able to deadlift it.
Sorry, that was just too easy.[/quote]
I already did. Watch the pull progress video. It’s at the end.
Here is a video from earlier today:
http://media.putfile.com/max_cleanpress_185x1
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Gotta be honest with ya guys; I know he’s the site’s favorite whipping boy but all his front squats were decent form and his zerchers weren’t bad. You guys need to cut him some slack.[/quote]
His front squats were no were near decent, nor was his zerchers
At first I thought this was a joke. You are the perfect example of why many commercial gyms don’t allow deadlifting, let alone olympic lifts. What the hell were you thinking with the clean and press. It looked like your back was about break.
[quote]superscience wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
http://media.putfile.com/max_pull_progress
lol poor form. And your a pussy, needing a suit to deadlift 475lbs lol. I say you would be lucky to deadlift 400lbs raw. [/quote]
Wow that made you sound really fucking stupid. That comment made you look like as much of an ass as DW. No one is getting 75 lbs out of a DL suit. Yes, i said NO ONE. I’m talking about DL suits here so if I got technical and got into pulling sumo and actually getting a carryover, you would surely be lost as you are now.
[quote]superscience wrote:
Adamsson wrote:
And well, if my 510 1RM excludes me from making comments, please, point me to that rule…
i wouldnt brag about deadlifting 510 in a suit, unless you weighed 140.[/quote]
WHAT THE FUCK? Do you realize what you are saying? Getting TWENTY POUNDS out of a DL suit is pretty good! Whatever you are smoking, pass me some!!!
BTW, DW’s form has improved. Still sloppy but he’s still pretty strong for his weight. If anyone deserves to be flamed in this thread then it’s that superscience dickhead!