[quote]Adamsson wrote:
The last powerlifting contest i was at was the norwegian nationals in January… And well, those lifts would never have been approved, period. One can say that DW has improved, but stating that this is good form is doing him a short-term service, like pissing in the pants to keep warm… it sucks when the pants freeze… No use telling the guy that he lifts good, when he obviously doesen’t. [/quote]
Nicca please, you’re just being hateful. He’s doing reps for christ’s sake and you wouldn’t know a hitch if a trailer attached itself to your ass. I already explained to you what a hitch is and isn’t. Those lifts get passed - period, even in Norway. And if you don’t like your piss when its cold out, stop pissing your pants and stop hating.
lol poor form. And your a pussy, needing a suit to deadlift 475lbs lol. I say you would be lucky to deadlift 400lbs raw.
Uh, I think if YOU actually lifted, you’d know that no one is getting 75lbs from a damn deadlift suit. I can’t believe the negativity - the dude has posted some funny shit in the past for sure, but this is MUCH improved and certainly nothing that deserves so much scorn- there aren’t many of you out there doing 405x4 or 5 PERIOD. And this guy can’t weigh 190. Give it a rest… “deadlift suit” is like “jumbo shrimp”…you’d know that if you lifted.
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I am honestly sick of seeing the lousy form. I think its sad to hear that some people think that how much you lift is whats important regardless of form. Instead of showing off get in the gym, and train right. Doing an exercise with more weight than you can handle just to say you can do 5 reps of 405 is just dumb, isnt worth anything. Why dont you show everyone 350 using excellent form? Than I will be impressed, but all the moving back and forth, come on dude. Comments from others like, " I dont see anyone else lifting that kind of weight," is an idiotic comment, people are trying to help by telling him to lift a bit less and use better form and he has been told that many times, but obviously he doesnt care, he wants his numbers to go up regardless of form. He can thank us when he severely damages his back. A bit less weight,& excellent form, and than I will believe the word improvement and DW in the same line.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Adamsson wrote:
The last powerlifting contest i was at was the norwegian nationals in January… And well, those lifts would never have been approved, period. One can say that DW has improved, but stating that this is good form is doing him a short-term service, like pissing in the pants to keep warm… it sucks when the pants freeze… No use telling the guy that he lifts good, when he obviously doesen’t.
Nicca please, you’re just being hateful. He’s doing reps for christ’s sake and you wouldn’t know a hitch if a trailer attached itself to your ass. I already explained to you what a hitch is and isn’t. Those lifts get passed - period, even in Norway. And if you don’t like your piss when its cold out, stop pissing your pants and stop hating.
And stop making me defend this guy.
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Hateful? I’m just stating that those wouldn’t get passed… I have gotten red lights on better lifts than that… And well, the language problems is not very relevant here, the point is that he drags the weights along his tighs… where i come from, that is not allowed, period. And the fact that you don’t know the piss-in-pants saying isn’t my problem now, is it?
Your lifts look much better to me also. He still has some form issues, but they look much better to me. How can a deadlift not touch the thighs? Why do we all use baby powder - to make it slide up your legs smoother.
new lifts: don’t think they would have passed, but much better.
I don’t see the problem here, I HAVE stated that the improvement is good, but I see no reason to say “hey, he is perfect”, since we infact CAN see the greys in between black and white…
[quote]mattwray wrote:
Your lifts look much better to me also. He still has some form issues, but they look much better to me. How can a deadlift not touch the thighs? Why do we all use baby powder - to make it slide up your legs smoother.
Your suit also looks way too big, grow into it…[/quote]
We use baby powder because in fucking Norway, the toilets flush the opposite direction, grits cook faster on thier stoves, and otherwise the law of physics do not apply (thanks My Cousin Vinny) when the IPF is in town - of course the fucking weight drags along your thighs. When he wants to really discuss it with me, he’ll at least go to the IFP website and download and post the damn infraction he thinks he sees.
[quote]mattwray wrote:
Your lifts look much better to me also. He still has some form issues, but they look much better to me. How can a deadlift not touch the thighs? Why do we all use baby powder - to make it slide up your legs smoother.
Your suit also looks way too big, grow into it…[/quote]
I don’t have a problem with it touching the thighs, but in the video it looks as if he is pulling the thighs under the bar - Ramping the weight - up his legs. And yes Baby powder might possibly correct this for him. But he still needs to lock out - his knees are not locked in any of them. I still suggest he drop the weight and work on form - go heavy, but light enough that he does not have these issues.
Never mind, I’ll do it for him. Relevant IPF deadlift rules:
Causes for Disqualification of a Dead Lift.
Any downward movement of the bar before it reaches the final position.
Failure to stand erect with the shoulders back.
Failure to lock the knees straight at the completion of the lift.
Supporting the bar on the thighs during the performance of the lift. If the bar edges up the thigh but is
not supported this is not reason for disqualification. The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt
made by the referee.
Stepping backward or forward, although lateral movement of the foot or rocking feet between ball and
heel is permitted.
Lowering the bar before receiving the Chief Referee?s signal.
Allowing the bar to return to the platform without maintaining control with both hands, i.e. : releasing
the bar from the palms of the hand.
Failure to comply with any of the items outlined under Rules of Performance.
On his first 4 lifts, I did not see him support the weight on his thighs…as you can see from the IPF rule book YOU ARE WRONG in your Norway interpretation of the rules…
I can’t even believe we are discussing his WEIGHT ROOM reps against the IPF rule book, but YOU did say they wouldn’t pass - and I call BULLSHIT.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And to Ms. “I’m a national ref and wouldn’t pass any - you didn’t lock out”…what a fucking joke. He’s doing reps not a contest single and I do believe he locked out the first few…please stick to reffing 8 year old soccer games please. I’m a national ref - “nicca please”.
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I believe she said that she’d give him a red light. Two white and one red, and your lift still counts.
I’m sure she’s more knowledgeable than you when it comes to powerlifting, not to mention that in all of the posts I’ve read of hers, she’s being helpful and honest.
She’s not only very successful in powerlifting, but very humble as well.
[quote]Adamsson wrote:
Let me put this in understandable terms:
In my fed. (IPF) it is not allowed to pull the bar like he does up his tighs. Even if it is a smooth and slow movement, without hitching, it is not allowed as long as he drags the weights on his tighs. [/quote]
Where does it say in the IPF rulebook that one cannot drag the bar up the thighs?
[quote]mike08042 wrote:
I am honestly sick of seeing the lousy form. I think its sad to hear that some people think that how much you lift is whats important regardless of form. Instead of showing off get in the gym, and train right. Doing an exercise with more weight than you can handle just to say you can do 5 reps of 405 is just dumb, isnt worth anything. Why dont you show everyone 350 using excellent form? Than I will be impressed, but all the moving back and forth, come on dude. Comments from others like, " I dont see anyone else lifting that kind of weight," is an idiotic comment, people are trying to help by telling him to lift a bit less and use better form and he has been told that many times, but obviously he doesnt care, he wants his numbers to go up regardless of form. He can thank us when he severely damages his back. A bit less weight,& excellent form, and than I will believe the word improvement and DW in the same line. [/quote]
Uh, point taken but form is sometimes sacraficed in pursuit of the big lift. Are you telling me all the PL and Strongmen in the world are using perfect form on thier max attempts? c’mon man, I understand your point - he needs, at his age and development, to use better form, but these last lifts are not exactly alarming in terms of form.
Improved? Perhaps. But that really isn’t saying much, in this case.
He isn’t strong enough to be pulling that weight properly. Period. He can’t even pull safely with the boost the gear gives him.
He’s fucked, if he keeps this shit up. That kind of abuse will have consequences. He’ll wake up one day, down the road, and realize it. Or in the middle of one of these displays. He has simply dodged a bullet, so far.
Deflate the ego a bit, make some room for some common sense…
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Never mind, I’ll do it for him. Relevant IPF deadlift rules:
Causes for Disqualification of a Dead Lift.
Failure to stand erect with the shoulders back.
Failure to lock the knees straight at the completion of the lift.
Supporting the bar on the thighs during the performance of the lift. If the bar edges up the thigh but is
not supported this is not reason for disqualification. The lifter should benefit in all decisions of doubt
made by the referee.
On his first 4 lifts, I did not see him support the weight on his thighs…as you can see from the IPF rule book YOU ARE WRONG in your Norway interpretation of the rules…
I can’t even believe we are discussing his WEIGHT ROOM reps against the IPF rule book, but YOU did say they wouldn’t pass - and I call BULLSHIT.
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Next, the first four deadlifts would have passed in ANY federation. They were all good lifts.
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I believe that the above comment is why the discussion of his lifts against the IPF rulebook began! And NO his first four lifts would not have passed in any Federation. As you do have to lock your knees and shoulders out for the lift to count. As you can also see by your post as well. So by your own admission the lifts would not have passed.
[quote]And to Ms. “I’m a national ref and wouldn’t pass any - you didn’t lock out”…what a fucking joke. He’s doing reps not a contest single and I do believe he locked out the first few…please stick to reffing 8 year old soccer games please. I’m a national ref - “nicca please”. [quote]
and as for this comment, if you train not locking out, when you go to a meet you will also not lock out! How many national, international or local meets have you competed in? What is your current World Ranking? Oh your not ranked…really, so many words from one who has not stepped on an international platform?
[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
And to Ms. “I’m a national ref and wouldn’t pass any - you didn’t lock out”…what a fucking joke. He’s doing reps not a contest single and I do believe he locked out the first few…please stick to reffing 8 year old soccer games please. I’m a national ref - “nicca please”.
I believe she said that she’d give him a red light. Two white and one red, and your lift still counts.
I’m sure she’s more knowledgeable than you when it comes to powerlifting, not to mention that in all of the posts I’ve read of hers, she’s being helpful and honest.
She’s not only very successful in powerlifting, but very humble as well.
Show some fucking respect![/quote]
Thanks for the kind comments – I truely just dont want the kid to get hurt and see him improve. Telling him that they are good will get him no where.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
just out of curiosity, what is your deadlift max? and post a vid too please so we can critique your form.[/quote]
I don’t know what my max is. I am not a power lifter. I don’t care about numbers, or how long my pecker is either.
But that is not the point, sparky. His form is horrible. Period. It has been horrible ever since the kid starting posting shit here. I don’t think he deserves any praise for posting yet another video pull of dangerously bad form. You seem to think he does.
What does my Max DL have to do with anything? About as much as your yammering, I suppose.
Start pulling sumo, DW. Back Rounding=solved, if your form is messed up you won’t get it off the ground and you can fix the issues before they’re dangerous.
And well, those lifts would never have been approved, period. One can say that DW has improved, but stating that this is good form is doing him a short-term service, like pissing in the pants to keep warm… it sucks when the pants freeze… 
I have gotten red lights on better lifts than that… And well, the language problems is not very relevant here, the point is that he drags the weights along his tighs… where i come from, that is not allowed, period. And the fact that you don’t know the piss-in-pants saying isn’t my problem now, is it?