DW's Pull Progress

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
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The DL is pretty scary but, hey, it’s your lower back, not mine :slight_smile:

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
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Ouch…my back hurts for you…

What were you doing to those dumbbells?

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
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My god that was terrible

Why would you want to do that to yourself bro? Why not do 5 singles with 440? Why not do decent reps with 70lb dumbells?

dude. thats bloody awefull.

We’ve all talked about the back position before, it’s his choice and it has gotten better. Never thought I’d see someone who had problems at lockout involving their quads though - it looked like you could have had that locked out 4 seconds earlier.

Were your quads just really struggling, or did you find it difficult to get them to activate properly?

-Dan

[quote]aussie_jono wrote:
Yeah your bench should be a fair bit heavier, unless you have had proper olympic training/coaching. Guys who primarily o-lift will often (but not always) have a bigger clean than their bench.
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I am one of those guys with a clean that dwarfs my bench.

[quote]Krollmonster wrote:
aussie_jono wrote:
Yeah your bench should be a fair bit heavier, unless you have had proper olympic training/coaching. Guys who primarily o-lift will often (but not always) have a bigger clean than their bench.

I am one of those guys with a clean that dwarfs my bench.[/quote]

I was doing powercleans for the first time ever on Friday and I worked up to 95kg, I can only see this going above my bench (112.5kg) very soon with practice… That’s normal right?

[quote]Hanley wrote:
I was doing powercleans for the first time ever on Friday and I worked up to 95kg, I can only see this going above my bench (112.5kg) very soon with practice… That’s normal right?
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I think it depends at what you practice the most. Powerlifters know how to maximize leverage during the bench and minimize ROM to move the most weight. Oly lifters maximize leverage and strengthen themselves to lift the most weight for their sport.

If someone puts equal practice in both, I’d say they should have a larger squat clean, only because larger muscle groups are involved. But then again, there is a lot of technique in the full clean and requires lots of work in the front squat too. It is hard to say for sure…

Most OLers don’t bench so they naturally are gonna have cleans ahead of their bench.

I am very impressed with your strength, but watching your form made me hurt and not wanna work out anymore.

Your hammer curls were absolutely terrible. They couldnt really be called hammer curls because you weren’t curling.

You have insane amounts of potential. Live up to it.

Re: the hammer curls

I think DW was inspired by what this guy was doing.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1018064&pageNo=0

[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
Re: the hammer curls

I think DW was inspired by what this guy was doing.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1018064&pageNo=0[/quote]

The guy in the link wasn’t using solid form, that is a definite. However DW’s form was exponentially worse than the guy in the link. DW has the potential to be truly strong. There is a difference between looking strong, and being strong.

[quote]TrainerinDC wrote:
TeeVee69 wrote:
Re: the hammer curls

I think DW was inspired by what this guy was doing.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1018064&pageNo=0

The guy in the link wasn’t using solid form, that is a definite. However DW’s form was exponentially worse than the guy in the link. DW has the potential to be truly strong. There is a difference between looking strong, and being strong. [/quote]

Just to be clear: I’m not dissing either DW or the other guy. Both have very impressive grip strength for their size.

I’m the first to say DW is very strong. I’m simply saying he’s not at his potential for strength. Which could be derived from proper form.

[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
Re: the hammer curls

I think DW was inspired by what this guy was doing.

http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1018064&pageNo=0[/quote]

No, I actually did loose hammer curls like that for a while, since last year.

good ole’ queensboro. that gym was good fun back in the day.

[quote]beAman13 wrote:
good ole’ queensboro. that gym was good fun back in the day.[/quote]

Yeah, it’s not nearly as bad as most commercial gyms and it’s totally free for me even after I graduate at the end of this semester because I’m a combat veteran.

Has anyone actually used ‘power hammer curls’? As long as you use good form, I would liken it to doing clean pulls compared to deadlifts. Just wondering.

[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_480x1[/quote]

Alright man, you’re now making me feel stupid for defending you with that last clip. First, I will say that you have big balls for staying with a lift like you do…but to what end? What benefit do you think you get by what you did with that last pull? There is a difference between learning to strain and straining and even missing and gaining a training effect and then there is risking injury…that last lift you were risking injury. I hope you don’t see the light AFTER an injury…dude, stop and think. I think you have alot of potential - you’re a strong dude for your size and the only way to keep making progress is to stay (relatively) injury free. This last attempt you posted was flirting more with injury than any training benefit. Learn to bail bro - doesn’t mean you can’t strain thru a lift but when you’re training and you feel that form start to give - let it go.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_480x1

Alright man, you’re now making me feel stupid for defending you with that last clip. First, I will say that you have big balls for staying with a lift like you do…but to what end? What benefit do you think you get by what you did with that last pull? There is a difference between learning to strain and straining and even missing and gaining a training effect and then there is risking injury…that last lift you were risking injury. I hope you don’t see the light AFTER an injury…dude, stop and think. I think you have alot of potential - you’re a strong dude for your size and the only way to keep making progress is to stay (relatively) injury free. This last attempt you posted was flirting more with injury than any training benefit. Learn to bail bro - doesn’t mean you can’t strain thru a lift but when you’re training and you feel that form start to give - let it go.[/quote]

Believe it or not, that deadlift felt much better than some of my more notorious lifts from the past.

I -will- deadlift 495 this year. You can bank on it. It might not be powerlifter clean, but I never claimed to be a powerlfiter.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Gotta be honest with ya guys; I know he’s the site’s favorite whipping boy but all his front squats were decent form and his zerchers weren’t bad. You guys need to cut him some slack.[/quote]

You have got to be fucking kidding. The form is a joke, how his spine is still in one piece, I have no idea. Maybe he should try more gear, maybe a 300 or 400 lbs front squat is in the future.