[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_480x1
Alright man, you’re now making me feel stupid for defending you with that last clip. First, I will say that you have big balls for staying with a lift like you do…but to what end? What benefit do you think you get by what you did with that last pull? There is a difference between learning to strain and straining and even missing and gaining a training effect and then there is risking injury…that last lift you were risking injury. I hope you don’t see the light AFTER an injury…dude, stop and think. I think you have alot of potential - you’re a strong dude for your size and the only way to keep making progress is to stay (relatively) injury free. This last attempt you posted was flirting more with injury than any training benefit. Learn to bail bro - doesn’t mean you can’t strain thru a lift but when you’re training and you feel that form start to give - let it go.
Believe it or not, that deadlift felt much better than some of my more notorious lifts from the past.
I -will- deadlift 495 this year. You can bank on it. It might not be powerlifter clean, but I never claimed to be a powerlfiter.
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I’ll be able to deadlift 495 this year. You, instead, will attempt to dry hump a barbell that happens to weigh 495 lbs. You can bank on it.
Don’t risk injury man, that’s a key point in any strength community, be it powerlifting or strongman.
And I know you’re wearing gear and it makes you feel safer, I abuse myself more when I’m wearing gear too.
It will not save you when a piece of your lumbar vertebrae shoots out your ass.
And hit the rack pulls harder, your lockout is awful.
People wouldn’t give you as much shit if your form got better once you got off the floor.
The floor’s a bitch for conventional lifters, I know, I’m one, I round a bit on max effort off the floor but I lock out solid.
Stay safe.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
480x1 Deadlift
http://media.putfile.com/max_deadlift_480x1
Alright man, you’re now making me feel stupid for defending you with that last clip. First, I will say that you have big balls for staying with a lift like you do…but to what end? What benefit do you think you get by what you did with that last pull? There is a difference between learning to strain and straining and even missing and gaining a training effect and then there is risking injury…that last lift you were risking injury. I hope you don’t see the light AFTER an injury…dude, stop and think. I think you have alot of potential - you’re a strong dude for your size and the only way to keep making progress is to stay (relatively) injury free. This last attempt you posted was flirting more with injury than any training benefit. Learn to bail bro - doesn’t mean you can’t strain thru a lift but when you’re training and you feel that form start to give - let it go.
Believe it or not, that deadlift felt much better than some of my more notorious lifts from the past.
I -will- deadlift 495 this year. You can bank on it. It might not be powerlifter clean, but I never claimed to be a powerlfiter.
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Well, to be honest, you’re just being silly now or you’re not comprehending the advice - to use a quote of yours - “I hate repeating myself”. Now I’m beginning to understand why alot of people have given up on you.
To be clear - my advice was not intended to a “powerlifter” but any lifter - injury is injury - I don’t care about the “technicality” of your lift - I was pointing out where you exhibit some mechanics that are crying for an injury. I guess you and everyone else here should have this conversation WHEN and AFTER you’re injured - keep it up and it will happen.
I don’t care what your sport is - you can’t make progress when hurt.
And one other thing - I’m sure you’ll deadlift your goal by the end of the year - no one is doubting that. The question now is when you’ll hurt yourself. Don’t get me wrong - I’m not suggesting you stop pulling heavy singles or anything of that sort - I’m telling you, for your own damn good, that you need to learn to perceive when your body is not in a good position and you need to learn to bail on a lift.
Try to understand a simple concept - RISK/BENEFIT. When you do what you did in this last clip - the RISK of injury is greater than the training BENEFIT of straining thru that lift…there is a benefit to learning to strain - but NOT when your mechanics are so far out of position. You need to learn to strain and fight a lift while in decent form - I didn’t say perfect - I said decent. And there was nothing “decent” about that last attempt, only “dangerous”.
Good luck to you.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
And hit the rack pulls harder, your lockout is awful.
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I agree. And position yourself correctly on your rack pulls. That means back arched, bent pimarily at the WAIST not at the KNEES
I just watched most of those deadlift videos and halfway through my back started spasming
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this 480 deadlift was scary… I don’t know why you do this to yourself DW, do heavy rackpulls instead of killing your spine.
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WTF is wrong with that barbell row-thing…? Why do you use your legs only…?
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Partial hammercurls with bodyswing? Is that a new aerobic-exercise or something?
Anyway, I think the syndrome you suffer from is: “I can’t lift lighter weights, no matter how unhealthy my form is”, and the reason for this is your pride…
[quote]Adamsson wrote:
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this 480 deadlift was scary… I don’t know why you do this to yourself DW, do heavy rackpulls instead of killing your spine.
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WTF is wrong with that barbell row-thing…? Why do you use your legs only…?
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Partial hammercurls with bodyswing? Is that a new aerobic-exercise or something?
Anyway, I think the syndrome you suffer from is: “I can’t lift lighter weights, no matter how unhealthy my form is”, and the reason for this is your pride… [/quote]
pretty much dead on. It seemed like you were making big progress in technique, then you followed it up with that gem.
It’s good that you haven’t been seriously injured yet (that I know of), but you are going to be if you keep lifting like that. Drop the weight and get the form in order, it will be safer and you are going to wind up being stronger in the end.
Agree there! I was a quarter-squat guy (even in smith machine) earlier (yes, I admit it), but as i started training with the powerlifters, i soon realized that i had to go DOWN DOWN DOWN on all my weights, to straighten up my form and stay injury free… I hope you realize this too! You are a very talented and strong lifter, but in the long run continuity is the most important thing, and form like that WILL break continuity in the long run (injurys and the likes). With proper form and a few years of training, you WILL break records, if not international, at least state-wise!
It is so funny. Everyone gives the same advice about DW changing his form, etc…and he has been posting vids for at least a couple of years and keeps doing the same things. He is hopeless.