Trick question, I’d rather have a gay son.
Not everyone will buy in to your belief system. And your values are only as valuable as you believe them to be. This can be a difficult lesson to learn, but your views on morality are subjective. It can be disappointing to learn the world is bigger than your scope, and maybe doesn’t agree with it though.
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Yes, just not for the same reasons.
I do believe a man needs to have enough experience with women to understand how to properly vet them for marriage. Most men are terrible at this.
Women are inherently good at vetting men for both mating and marriage, and I think it takes little experience for women to know this.
I do not think a high body count is desireable in either sex.
Women do, inherently, find men more attractive if they have other female mates (potential or actual) a la pre-selection bias. So it seems my opinion on male body count does not matter that much when the vast majority of women do not hold the same opinion.
Men, inherently, find women with few sexual partners more desirable for long-term mates. This stems from both evolutionary development (a la paternity) and often insecurity (as pointed out repeatedly in this thread). There’s more to that insecurity side that is actually fairly valid, but I’m pretty sure folks here would run me out of town for getting into it. I’ve been called an “incel” before for these views so 
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Aaand this is where you lost me.
If you think anyone’s daughter could be genuinely happy while living the life of a female pornstar, then I don’t think there’s anything to discuss here.
At least it wouldn’t bother you if your daughter was this girl. She seems happy.
Many women who have been sex workers report significant mental health crises (that’s plural, FYI) both during that lifestyle, and afterwards.
Reports of women who went on to life their Empowered™ lifestyle as the town bicycle are eerily similar to that of sex workers. They suffer much of the same damages.
Both situations are quite sad, truly.
Often times, the sex workers are coerced or otherwise put in positions where they had no choice but to do this.
The town bicycles chose to do this, under the guise of some clueless assholes (which includes both men and feminists) saying “bodycount doesn’t matter”.
I’ve noticed you get pretty testy when people strike a chord. For the record, my comments around insecurity were general in nature.
The porn thing has been discussed in the porn thread.
In context here, how many men is your daughter allowed to fuck? 1? 2? Can you be realistic and say 5-10? If she bangs 11 is she broken and sad?
What’s the right number and why?
The lowest number needed for her to find her life partner.
Ideally, that would be the first and only person she sleeps with. My job, as a father, is to model the kind of man that she can marry. If I do this right, that will be a low number.
I do see it as a failure on my part if she has many partners. I would take that sincerely as my fault for not helping her see her own value, as a father should.
I mean they seem to be living large with Onlyfans. They’re probably happy with all the money they make from an industry fueled by men.
Imagine finally working up the courage to start an onlyfans and start showing your naked body to the world, to only get a handful of subscribers. You violated your own personal beliefs/morals for a couple hundred bucks (that get taxed).
Imagine having a TON of subscribers, like $10,000/month volume, then watching them slowly disappear because you’re not new to them anymore. Being slowly rejected on a global scale.
I’m sure they’re all living it up!
Feel free to google “life after onlyfans” and see how happy these girls are. I’m sure some are okay. I bet the majority are not. Rejection hurts for everyone, but it hurts worse for women.
Is that another word for throw self-respect in the trash can?
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Nah no way, men are like dogs. They’ll keep shelling out big bucks to see even just a nipple.
Sure, but why spend your money to see that old nipple when you can spend money to see this new nipple?
With a global market, there is global competition.
Those numbers get pretty dismal considering these are only the most popular accounts. Hyperbolic trend gonna hyperbolic.
I think you don’t know your audience, or think you be smarter than you is.
Andrewgen: I was this many years old when I learned crises is plural for crisis, and now I think everyone else is dumb AF and so I will teach them about the plural of crisis.
TNation: Duh.
It was to emphasize a point, thanks for understanding.
It is also worth noting that the individual in which I was saying this to - has said he does not have a problem with his daughter becoming a pornstar. I imagined such an individual needing some additional definition.
I was this many years old when I realized I was not the smartest man in the room.
Aren’t you 50-something years old, talking meme-speak?
What are you trying to get out of these responses? Likes?
I saw the movie Grease as a tween. I had the album, and played it daily for like a year. My middle school best friend had the lyrics from some high school play of it, and we crooned it together into our hairbrushes for that year - maybe longer.
Many years later I was with a friend driving with our littles from Virginia to my grandmother’s house in PA, and she had it on CD. I was pregnant with #3, so my oldest must have been early 3 and my daughter 18 months or so. Her kids were 4 and 2. I swear I heard that music for the first time that day. It’s filthy.
I mean, this is life, no?
My daughter and I laugh about me tearing pages with sex scenes out of paperback books so she could read them as early as she wanted to. I stopped censoring her reading of adult books at 12-13.
As a reader, let me remind you that it’s in those books, too!
But I think that’s where I learned about the types of sex. Meaningless vs caring vs loving. And I taught that to my daughter. How sex should feel good to the body AND the heart and mind.
No one is saying that. They’re saying that dating and exploring are okay, that they have had casual sex positively and enjoyed it and expect their healthy daughters to be able to exercise discernment.
This is completely, utterly incorrect. I make a living in large part because people - nice people - make poor choices, often serially.
I know I’ve mentioned this before, but my fear that I would be that woman led to the weirdest internet thing ever, which started as my thread here about commitment-phobic men. I’ve never met one, and when I was dating felt constantly pressured to lock down with one or another. I started the thread after realizing that the first guy I dated was very, very like my ex. This board helped me sort out what indicated insecurity and what indicated positive stuff. We had MGTOW and jaded guys along with some of the posters still here, e.g. Skyz. At the time my work experience had been limited to kids.
I believe I got it all sorted through. I do not believe you have it all sorted through, @Andrewgen_Receptors.
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I read Andrews comment last night, then you quoted it, and it reminded me of this one cardiac therapist I interacted with a lot a few years ago, so I figured I’d add my 2 cents.
She was the cutest, sweetest, most adorable little thing in the world, but she had “beat me up and spend my paycheck on drugs” written in big neon letters flashing over her head like nobody else.
Part of me felt heart wrenchingly bad for her, and hopes to god she doesn’t find her Mr. Right.
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Are you not a dude contributing to this thread? I have a kettle you may want to talk to.
Interesting, that you judge them on their color and religion unlike me who judged them for what they’ve said and done. That’s treating them like any other member of Congress. Imagine that, treating everyone based on their actions and words.
Because there is no such thing as patriarchy anywhere else in the world. I’m also not white so check your privilege or any negative comment you make toward me I will label as racist. I mean, those are your rules, right?
Care to share any examples?
Here’s another question, what race is Rashida Tlaib?
Good old days? It’s still happening. But don’t judge those who do it; that would be racist. Here’s the difference between us, well, one of many. I look at stoning and honor killing and feel for the women, the victims. You look at who is doing it and only care about the color of their skin.
This would make for a very interesting model.
My prof has one on on search and network effects but it doesn’t consider heterogeneity in ability to extract information from noisy signals
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Why is it important that she gets married?
What if she’s aromantic? what if she doesn’t want to settle down? what if she feels that marriage isn’t worth it?
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