It also makes it less likely you will be the worst.
I think we should also factor in the emotional factor. As corny as it sounds, having feelings for the other person does make sex better.
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Objectively true, and why I would reframe the question.
Also true, and in a vacuum I agree, but I see a problem when projecting one’s insecurity on to others and expecting them alter behavior in appeasement. Shaming someone else because you can’t measure up is a problem.
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“True.” – Science
According to one study, only 4% of women say they usually reach orgasm during first-time hook-up sex. So, their body count may be high, but their satisfaction level is low.
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100%
So we agree more than it would seem then.
I don’t think we should shame women. I agree there. If we understand why some men are justifiably insecure about a high body count, I think it helps overall. Not just men either. I think it helps if women understand why some men have those feelings about a woman’s past. What we talked about earlier about how most men would want a woman with 20 past partners that were sub par in bed over a woman with only 1 past partner, but that partner that rocked her world. Women if they knew this would have the power to take away that insecurity if their man is feeling that way about her past. Her words and actions can either make her man confident or insecure. If she loves him, and it is true that he is good in bed, she can easily make those feelings go away by being enthusiastic about sex, tell him how he satisfies her in bed. If she isn’t happy with the sex, and there isn’t a way to remedy it, I’d rather as the man that we break up. I wouldn’t want to be with a woman that wasn’t sexually happy with me.
I agree with the general gist of your post and am quoting the specific portion above as it ties back in to the original question of whether or not body count matters.
I would say no, but compatibility does. Including sexual compatibility.
Usually the genesis of the question revolves around some form of controlling female sexuality to appease male insecurity, even if worded differently. And shaming of female sexual expression commences.
In any case, if a woman chooses you, she’s making an active choice and has figured sex in to it. You may not be the best she’s ever had, but you’re the one she wants and she likes what you’re giving enough to commit to it.
It’s a two way street anyways. I had my fair share of partners in years gone by. My wife is aware. Her biggest issue was ‘am I enough’, and she is. And once she knew that an arbitrary number didn’t matter and shouldn’t.
Between you, me, the fence post and the anonymity of the internet, sex with my wife is great. She’s experimental, receptive to kinks and on and on. We’ve had great sex and will continue to. But one woman in particular takes the cake. A combination of reasons why defines some of the sex with her as the “best” when I look back. The situation of how we came to be itself, a couple new at the time experiences and her sheer enthusiasm and ability all combined for a short but explosive fling. All topical, and purely sexual, but god damn the sex was good. And she was clearly experienced, which was great to experience.
I would never tell my wife these details and I barely think of them, especially when I’m balls deep in one of my wife’s holes, and our sex is very satisfying with both a physical and emotional element. I’m sure it’s the same for women.
So if body count matters, it’s either for religious reasons or because of a deep seated insecurity being projected outwards. And as you mentioned not wanting to be with a woman you don’t please, I think it’s fair for women to not want to be with a man who doesn’t please them. And they should be allowed to know what pleasure is so they can pick what they like. Then everyone can wake up together knowing they are actively chosen by their partner and hopefully chill 
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I agree in general with your post.
But with this, it would depend on what went into her calculation in which she determined she wanted to be with me. If it were things that involved my personality or physical attractiveness, it is acceptable IMO. If it is things that are external factors, like me having a high paying job, a house, a decent investment portfolio, that wouldn’t be acceptable to me. If it’s the latter case, I wouldn’t be able to get it out of my head that she was just having sex with me for the money / lifestyle. Some men are okay with this, but it would bother me too much. I wouldn’t commit to that woman. If I lost those things, what would keep her around? Even if I still had those things, what would keep her loyal if she had an option open up that she had genuine attraction for?
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It’s normal for women to assess the quality of life she can have with a partner, but nobody with a golddigger, as you’re essentially explaining, takes their marriage seriously. This is why they have prenups. Golden tickets come with the price of being a kept toy. It’s a totally different dynamic. Both are being used. I wouldn’t want it either, for a marriage.
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I don’t know, I see only dudes responding here and most of the takes are puritanical white male patriarchy pablum.
It is difficult to have an informed discussion in a vacuum. Especially with a crowd like this, all worried about their sexual performance, penis size, and whether their partner actually got off.
My original response was no, body count doesn’t matter. I have changed my opinion. It does matter.
The higher the better.
Low body count equals a lack of self esteem, a lack of connection to sensuality, rigid beliefs, and judgementalism (yeah, I made that up).
Ultimately, it is up to you whether body count matters. Like everything else. I think source/universe/god gave us six senses to be used. As long as you are conducting yourself honorably, what you do with your body is your business.
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The irony is that pablum created nations where women enjoy the most freedom and safety than anywhere else on Earth at any time in history. Rashida Tlaib and Illhan Omar escaped countries made up of people who look them, share the same culture as them, believe in the same religion as them, to a country where, according to them, white males are the greatest danger to our collective safety and well-being. Where they escaped from, the Middle East and Africa, slavery still exists and we all know how women are treated. Apparently they, and you Mr. Myth, have forgotten those facts. The fact that women can even attain a high body count here, and not there, without fear of a stoning or honor killing says something about a few things, one of them being where exactly does this puritanical patriarchy exist? Here or there?
Idk bout all that. Women had to fight for that freedom.
I always enjoy the hard binary options, as if there were no other possible outcomes.
You think body count doesn’t matter. You also don’t find porn to be damaging.
Would you be okay with your daughter being a pornstar? Why or why not?
Can’t tell if sarcasm or not.
Who did these western women have to fight, and what were the names of those battles?
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I’ll repost the same question I posted earlier.
I was bumping some music for my daughter while she was doing some gymnastics strength training. I put on a playlist called “gymnastics hype” or something.
A song came on that I didn’t recognize (most of these are songs I don’t recognize) and one of the lyrics came out saying “I’m a Plan B regular” in a bragging way.
Obviously I changed the song, then playlist quickly, but it begs the question: To what extent does societal normalization of increasing sexual promiscuity override the belief system that children are taught?
The number of men with daughters in this thread, who do not seem to care if their daughters have a new sex partner every night, is both surprising, and disappointing.
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I am probably the wrong person for you to lecture with respect to the wrongs in the world. As a dude contributing to this thread, you most likely are the problem and not the answer.
Interesting that you chose to smear two of the only women of color and religion in the congress. I guess that demonstrates the white patriarchy - thanks.
Nope, wrong again. I also have not forgotten that Africans were selling other Africans into slavery, that the Catholic church was most egregious in the crusades, and that we, as a society, slut shame women who are demonstratively independent, call them bitches.
Your obsession with stoning and honor killing is disturbing. Perhaps you miss the good old days.
would you care if you had a son that did this?
I do believe there is a double standard here, which is more perpetrated by women than it is men.
Women have a sexual selection method known as “mate choice copying” or sometimes known as “pre-selection bias”. Meaning that women like men who are already with a woman.
I don’t see that feature existing in men, at least - not generally speaking.
I don’t think it’s good for either men or women to have high body counts. BUT
If I said “Men should not have high body counts”, this thread would have like 10 replies. No one cares.
But if I said “women should not have high body counts”…
And we’re here, 141 replies later.
Interesting, no?
Again, I want my daughter to find a life where she’s genuinely happy. This will be my answer every time.
Why does body count matter? Objectively.