That would be Wilde.
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That’s what I thought but I’m not sure it’s true.
Oh boy. Im going to have a lot to think about for my therapist on Tuesday.
Wilde didn’t understand it however, I’m sure you did.
Did you look at the link I posted? Did Wilde actually say that?
The Crazy/Hot axis is real.
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Definitely. My first task as her boyfriend was to go find her sister at one of about 6 bars in our little borough to get her out of jail, because she got arrested when the police raided our kegger.
Young love, huh? 
I find this thread to be a bit of an exercise in virtue signaling.
Young love is a beautiful thing in my opinion. I was a fat kid when I went to college, lost weight, became popular in my little circle and slept with a bunch of girls. We were kids.
My daughter is twenty. Luckily, she is her own person. If she wants to bang, or scissor, it’s her life. I raised her to make her own decisions, to be self sufficient.
She knows I have her back if she needs me, but she is her own person.
Kids are on loan. You have to raise them and give them back. If they aren’t prepared, you screwed up as a parent.
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He wouldn’t have understood it if he had.
I agree with a lot of your post. You mentioned young love. Does sex = love?
I tend to agree with this, and my concern that my kids were behaving in ways that were damaging to them was at the same level as my fear that they weren’t taking good care of their teeth or that even if they didn’t drive drunk, someone might be drunk and hit them. I did and do worry about rape for my daughter. I know when she started having sex because she came home from a party and said “my friends said I should tell you that I haven’t had a period for three months.” I assumed that meant pregnant, and I was devastated. She, for her part, was aghast that I would think she would fail to use protection. The boy was a great kid, very nice, outstanding student, etc - someone I’d have welcomed into my family. It turned out that my daughter had PCOS - which later turned out to be a pituitary cyst - and this was the cause of the missed periods. Had we not had that to deal with, I’d have remained blissfully unaware of her doings. They dated for two years (about a year before this happened and a year after). All of my kids have been serial monogamists, as I was. 2/3 of my sons were virgins through at least their late teens, which I also know because of medical stuff (one had a torsed testicle, the other a worry about epididymitis). The third I have no idea, but he’s been with his now-wife since they were 16. In early pictures, they both still have braces. 
@jshaving to me young love = emotional connection and a belief that the relationship will be lasting.
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Flip it around; does love = sex?
I don’t think so.
Most people love some subset of their relatives but are not sexually attracted to a majority of that subset
A sizeable proportion of asexual people are not aromantic
To add a little geek humor.
I actually look at the use of the equal sign as it it used mathematically. That is: they are actually equal.
The mathematical axiom of symmetry is:
If a = b, then b = a.
This is not in question. As an axiom, it must be accepted to proceed further in mathematics.
I then have to reread it as you intended, as a conditional question.
It could be displayed in a Venn Diagram. I wonder how it might have evolved over time, if it has at all.
It seems for this thread “love” should be taken as love for a partner whom much in life is shared. But “sex” could be preceded by any number of adjectives.
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Yes. But when phrased in this way, what is being questioned is the nature of the first variable.
I would say that if love has meaning then, if we are comparing sex to love, we are asking does sex have meaning. And if we believe that sex has meaning and/or value and/or importance, then attitudes towards sex matter. Sex means something to those who are promiscuous and those who are more conservative. Thus, I don’t believe people who say sex is meaningless and it doesn’t matter who you sleep with or how many partners you have. “It’s just sex” is a false belief because if it’s just sex and really doesn’t mean anything, then why have it? Why spend so much time and energy and even money on trying to have it? Get a hobby. Read a book. Develop friendships that will offer you reliable and consistent support.
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I love this
You’d love Kierkegaard’s Works of Love. “Dutiful Love” as an absolute extension and unfiltered translation into action that cant be equalled by referential speech or description or devotion. It’s a fascinating framework on everything from free will, to morals, to the nature of godliness. He’s a Christian so we don’t go to the same parties, but if it slaps it slaps.
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If anything this post only reinforces my thoughts on the matter. I’m hearing “it’s bad”, without a real reason why or even a defined “ok” amount. And why is that? Say she tests clean and has agreed to be monogamous with you. Are you scared the last dick was better than yours? Worried you’ll never really be the “alpha” male in her bed and instead you’re the guy she settles for? Maybe she’ll get tired of you and leave or cheat if she knows “better” is out there?
Regarding gross, what’s the difference between one dick before you and three? 5? 10? 50?
What if a woman has had 20 bad sex partners but absolutely loves sex with you? Or what if a woman has only had one partner but he absolute blew her mind every time and you’re kind of mediocre in comparison? Which one is preferable in this scenario?
The woman you’ll never please because her count is lower? Bullshit. This question isn’t about what’s right or gross for a woman, but where a man’s insecurity begins.
I think most men would be surprised if they really knew their wives history. Readily visible signs or not.
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The fact you ask this means it has some significance for you. I haven’t read one post from someone who has an issue with promiscuous behavior that mentioned any of the hang ups you keep bringing up. Instead of trying to read between the lines, try reading what has been written. All of the questions about promiscuity relate to the character of the woman and what kind of partner she would make. If a man were truly concerned about the issue you bring up, then the question of body count would be pointless as any number of partners over zero would be too many.
Are you speaking from experience or just typing something you think sounds profound?
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I like slutty girls. They seem to be more honest than good girls.
I like everything about them. I have no concern if the last guy was better, or had a bigger dick. It does not bother me because when I am into a girl, none of that matters. It might be into her now, for a week, for a month, it doesn’t matter to me.
I’m comfortable with satisfying my partner, and it isn’t a competition - she is into me now.
I am not as comfortable with girls with a low body count.
Just me.
I want the girls that enjoy sex, that know what they want, that are willing to tell me what they want.
So yes, body count matters. I want the high body count!
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