Yes. And any men in modern times, though most have now lost authority because of daddy gubment can practice what they want in their families. Orthodox Jews right now in the USA don’t allow any setup based on whim.
My granddad once seriously let my aunt know that a certain man was not welcome. (He also once assaulted a man who threatened my uncle.) Poor dear, my aunt, she wound up marrying a millionaire engineer and entrepreneur introduced by family friends later on.
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I think it’s important to acknowledge that kids are having less sex than ever, teen pregnancies are dropping and so are birth rates…… despite this “culture of promiscuity”
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I appreciate the mention of sons. Often, people just say “women shouldn’t be promiscuous” and “I want a say in who my daughter is with,” but personally, I see no difference between sons and daughters. I don’t think men should sleep around a lot (I’ve known many “normal” women who are turned off by dudes with reputations for, to be crass, pumping and dumping), and young men often need as much guidance in choosing good partner material as young women.
When someone mentions both sons and daughters, I know they’re sincere in wanting the best. When people harp on and on and on about young women but mention young men zero times, it’s a little weird.
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Yes, hence promiscuity being benign is a luxury belief.
I see it that people, when they speak of sex, only speak of the sex act. “Sex is just sex.”
Exactly!
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And they push abortion as the remedy for unintended consequences.
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You are correct in all you said, as you usually are.
I’m not sure if you’re including me in your statements (and it’s fine if you are) but for conversations sake, I will hold the standards for sexual propriety and life outcomes for my son and daughter.
With that said I’m not gonna be some puritanical weirdo who thinks it would be awful if they had some hanky panky outside of marriage as young people. Like if they opened up to me and said they did it I’m gonna look at them with a straight face and say, “Omg, what have you done?” Lol.
I think my mention of bad men in my posts shows this sentiment for both sexes. But yes, I admit the focus of my posts has been slanted.
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Thanks! I consider you a morally solid spiritually grounded, thoughtful person which gives your consideration a good bit of weight.
I found out any number of times the hard way what can happen when you’re careless about who you choose, including a girlfriend who used to like watching people fight (like real fight, not just snippy words!) Less than a month after waking up from a coma!
She was a freakin wackjob! But also a gymnast with all the shiny girly parts, so… little head wins!
I can’t stop my son from making mistakes. Learning is part of living.
But I can help him make informed, hopefully good decisions.
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It is about more than morals. It is about psychological well-being, social dynamics, and what is best for society, among other factors. Contrary to what is being said, sex has never been the equivalent of a hug, even among animals. There is always so much more going on.
The idea of “sexual freedom,” such as going out of town and sleeping with strangers or engaging in one-night stands, has never been a norm. Bonobos do not do that. Multiple studies have shown the negative effects of casual sex, and it tends to disproportionately affect females.
It is not how we evolved, and 60 years of sexual revolution is not going to change that.
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“If it’s about sex, its about power, if it’s about anything else it’s about sex.”
- My drunk at 9 am English Professor.
Whats up with the chimps, man?
I mean, of course they don’t go out of town and sleep with strangers. They’re chimps. They throw poop and dismember their opposition. I’m not opposed to these things per se, I just choose not to partake.
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It was brought up by another poster. They are the favorite example from the “free love” crowd. Whenever the topic of casual sex in the wild/nature comes up, Bonobo articles and studies are posted.
Thats academia for you, huh?
Studying troops of chimps when they could just go to a couple of local bars and find out for themselves. 
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I do not know why people routinely compare the ways of other mammals to us or that we should follow them.
Example: “In some settings the biggest, toughest MF’s/alphas rule the roost. The betas don’t get to screw. Let’s set our shit like that too guys. Haha. I’m the alpha in here.”
For some reason these examples only apply to how some species screw. It’s never like, “Bears shit in the woods. Haha! Bro, let’s just shit in our backyards now, hehe,” or “Dude, animals don’t drive cars. Haha. I’m chucking mine.”
@OTay are bonobos that breed with a matriarchal order and live a life filled with eating and shagging?
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Thats a very accurate synopsis of my thoughts on the human ↔ animal behavior analysis.
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Thanks. 
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Yes but, even the idea they are “matriarchal” is wrong. It is just a way to push the idea that if women ran the world things would be peaceful. Bonobos are more “egalitarian”, females do not dominate all aspects of social life, and male bonobos also have social hierarchies and influence. Their males are still bigger.
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It goes to show that we shouldn’t model our societies after other mammals. In my favorite book on sex, Sexual Utopia in Power, the author mentions bonobos, but I couldn’t recall why he did at the moment. I have it in ebook so I’m gonna keyword search where they are mentioned.
Thanks for the explanation. @OTay
"Evolutionary theory would lead us to look for a difference in the
living environments of bonobos and chimps to which their radically
different behavior could represent adaptations. And the primatologists
have found such a difference: chimps must compete with other species, especially gorillas, for food. The bonobos live in a food-rich, gorilla free environment where the living is easy. It is this lack of competitors
which makes violence, hierarchy, competition, and male bonding
unnecessary for bonobos.
Western man is like a chimp who has done his job too well. Having
defeated nearly all his dangerous competitors, he finds himself without
much of a function in a prosperous society that no longer needs to be
defended. It is only to be expected that his women are going to start
bitching that he needs to learn to act more like a bonobo. Feminism is a
byproduct of peace and prosperity, not a response to patriarchy and
oppression."
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Tell that to my family! (Really though, thank you.)
I wasn’t. I’ve seen you mention your son before, and discuss men’s flaws.
Again, thanks!
Absolutely. I learned a lot of good from the adults in my life, but also plenty of not-so-good that I’m still seeing come out in ways I don’t intend. Having little people around puts that stuff in perspective.
I think he stole it from someone else.
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