Does Body Count Matter?

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I think it’s because it’s awesome. Taking a shit can be too, don’t get me wrong, but not in the same way. People tend to enshrine things they like the most. It doesn’t negate the question Anna asked though. Why is it different, as a biological function.

Let’s not play dumb. It’s a waste of time.

Lay out what you view as “flexibility in applying morality.” I have no idea what someone has said that you view that way.

Oh for sure, haha.

I guess a main reason would be that it requires another person. I don’t need a partner to take a shit with, but I do need someone else with a heart, mind, and feelings to have intercourse with. That makes it inherently more complicated.

Jealousy is one reason. Being rejected can be seen as the rejected as not being worthy of passing their genes down with that person. If the person who got rejected has strong feelings for the one doing the rejection, and then the one doing the rejection is found out to be having sex with others, jealousy would be a natural emotion.

Having a lot of jealous men isn’t usually great for society. It seems that things that are good or bad for society are often tied to morality.

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Yes, but taking frequent dumps could be a sign that you are unhealthy. Morals are related to health. A society with moral standards will be healthier than it would be with no morals.

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Rolling Stones. Billy Joel.

Morality isn’t simply how others see you but how you see yourself. How does a woman who has sex with men she cares nothing about and who don’t care about her feel about herself? She sees her body as serving no other purpose than to give strangers pleasure? Oh, but it feels good. Come on, I would think people who post on a bodybuilding site would know that it feels good is not an excuse for engaging in a behavior.

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This doesn’t explain why some people see self pleasuring as wrong

I don’t recall anyone mentioning masturbation. Was that brought up somewhere?

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It was not.

I’m asking more generally about sex being seen as a moral issue.

Most decisions we make have a moral component to them.

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I think most religions view sex that way, and most people(edit: on this forum) are either at least somewhat religious or influenced by religious views and culture(Western Civilization, specifically).

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This is more suited for a different thread, but the idea of believing something because it came from (insert accepted deity) is no different than believing some guy on the street saying that aliens have revealed “the truth”

This is not saying that what is being preached is ALL wrong. For example, the 10 commandments are objectively good rules for running a society; HOWEVER, justifying traditions or rules that don’t make sense in the modern world because of some book written centuries ago doesn’t make sense.

In many cases, the old rules had valid reasons for existing (e.g., catching disease from eating certain animals) that are no longer a concern, yet the rules do not change.

Using the bathroom? Which songs?

Turd on the run.

And Joel had that lame Italian restaurant song.

The chain is like this:

Self mastery is like a pinnacle virtue. If you become beholden to any self indulgence, whether it be food, drink, sex, desire for objects, money, etc. You are not free. If you are not free your will is not your own, and your integrity is compromised to some degree.

If your will is subjugated by some activity or object, you can’t be truly 100% dedicated to God, which ever one that may be, because your mind, body and spirit will yearn for that object or activity rather than be fully devoted to a deity, or simply to freedom of the spirit.

Practically speaking its a journey of progress, not perfection.

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A concept that people posting on a site dedicated to making “hard” choices with regard to health and fitness should understand.

Where I work there are a bunch of women who range from fat to morbidly obese. Here’s a typical statement from them:

Someone left donuts in the break room. I know I shouldn’t eat them but they were from… and they are so good I couldn’t resist.

A person knowingly eats the very thing which is contributing to their health and body image issues. Then feels regret and even shame which lasts longer than the three seconds it took to indulge in something that feels good.

I wonder how many promiscuous women feel that way after sex with no emotional attachment. And just like the obese person, they do it all over again even when they know they will feel regret later.

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You, mademoiselle, are correct.

It is only a moral issue because the church has made it a moral issue and has brainwashed society in an effort to control society.

Remember, the church, more accurately, the Catholic Church, is a human construct and clearly a part of the white patriarchy.

As is Judaism, Islam, and any other organized religion (maybe not white patriarchy, but certainly patriarchy - are Italians white?)

And, of course, the patriarchy fears the power of the divine feminine.

Go sit in a hut when you are menstruating, cover your breasts, don’t use your feminine wiles to entrap upstanding men. Wear a hijab or a burka.

You must protect men from . . . well, themselves.