Really? How much sex are you having?
Seriously though, ask yourself what one would need to do in order to have as much sex as possible. Lowering standards would be part of it.
I’m still waiting for the quantification and its justification. I asked for it early on but nobody can provide an answer, which is telling.
Let’s reframe. What number should I have used in the post you’re objecting to?
It’s incredibly ironic to me that of all the people in this thread, you two are ok with subjective morality here. It’s honestly reaffirming my insecurity assumption, clearly principle isn’t the issue.
I asked the same of you, and you said “I just want my daughter to be happy”
… to the extent at which you would support her being a literal prostitute.
So I guess that makes us even regarding quantification and justification? I’d rather my daughter be with as few people as possible, but to each his own.
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The idiocy of this thinking is that it assumes a prostitute can be happy.
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I(and, I assume, he) am not. There was no victim of the “crime” committed by @doogie’s wife. The victims of Medicare pre-existed her actions and were not harmed by them.
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It’s not stealing if the goods were stolen to begin with.
Defrauding a government medical insurance system that you are forced to pay into and legally required to have?
I see no crime here.
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Your question was a sidestep and introduced the extreme route.
I do want my daughter to be happy. I don’t believe there is a set number of partners that will make her happy or unhappy and I don’t have a sexual quota for her, I think that’s creepy. This falls in line with “it doesn’t matter”.
You asked the question of whether or not a body count matters. This inherently requires qualification by the literal definition of count in your question, but you’re refusing to define or answer and are instead introducing the idea of prostitution for a five year old to manipulate a point you won’t clarify yourself.
I wouldn’t say we are even in our responses at all.
I see.
If I apply this to potentially committing to a woman I’m most likely going to see some major red flags in her belief that two wrongs make a right, especially when her definition of “theft” will likely be manipulated to support her own theft as well. If she had sex before I wouldn’t care.
And you said “no”.
Despite the many reasons listed in this thread, you have done nothing but downplay and gaslight the actual mental health ramifications that promiscuity tends to have on women. It is quite clear that you don’t intend to change your mind and you don’t seem all that interested in changing anyone else’s mind.
I said it many responses before, that I don’t think we have anything else to discuss. You insisted on discussing things, despite having truly no evidence to support your claim - except that you demand to see a hard number.
Me: I think promiscuity is generally bad for society.
You: I disagree.
Me: Why?
You: well, n=1
So I really don’t understand why we have anything else to discuss. We both want our daughters to be happy, but I would take it as a personal failure to find my daughter on a stripper pole. You seem to not have that same position. I do not see a middle ground.
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Every response in this thread has been either subjective or misapplying studies as discussed earlier so I’d say it’s par for the course. Half the people arguing against promiscuity also state they would never ask a woman about her sexual history because…. it doesn’t matter. This presents an interesting dichotomy I’m curious to understand on a discussion forum but nobody can justify it.
Yet you keep responding to me, often in a line of communication with someone else. You are asking me to prove a negative. Sex isn’t damaging. The responses women receive after participating in it can be, as Emily discussed and your studies show. This isn’t a problem with sex, it’s a problem with people who can’t make peace with it.
This wasn’t your question, or if it was it wasn’t defined very well. You asked if body count matters. Contrary to your arguments above, most people are actually agreeing that it doesn’t. They don’t even think about it.
You’re manipulating again. While I understand your logic behind projecting stripping on to a five year old, your question was asking if sexual history matters in sexual relationships, presumably adult sexual relationships. I’m not sure what this has to do with kids, or even adult daughters, and I hope you aren’t sexualizing your daughter in the same mental exercise you’re presenting here as you engage in sex.
If it was your intent to suggest that not caring whether women have had sex before I’ve met them equates to 5 year olds growing up to be prostitutes, I agree we don’t have anything to talk about. That’s a very weird question, and one you keep proposing while twisting away from your initial intent.
Arguing with @Andrewgen_Receptors is a total waste of time.
There are several here that are just trolls. Save it.
Pot, meet kettle.
I actually rarely troll - if ever.
That is a half truth. It’s not about it not mattering but that it’s an awkward question to ask. It does matter, when it matters. If you’re with a woman and you realize she’s a skank, does it matter how many men she’s been with or is her being a skank enough reason to walk away?
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He trolled on this thread. But what do you expect from a boomer who plays with “trains?”
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See, this is in line with the original question.
I would consider a skank someone who has no restraint, including in a relationship. A cheater, a liar, manipulator et cetera. Interestingly, one literal definition of skank is “to swindle or deceive”. I would not tolerate deception in a relationship at all.
As far as caring how many men she’s been with, I wouldn’t. There’s not a cutoff line at a number for me, or a point where a number makes a woman a skank, or slut or whatever. If I enjoy her company, we mesh on views, it feels right et cetera I don’t care who she has been with in the past. I don’t live in the past.
If a woman had been with one man her whole life and then cheated on him I would see her as a skank, and problematic more so than a woman who had many partners, but never cheated or harmed anyone while enjoying sex.
So a better question for the conversation at hand than asking about a count (that is never defined) is asking about moral turpitude. I agree it’s important to avoid moral turpitude in a partner. I do not agree, in context of the original question, that having sex is moral turpitude.
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I appreciate that. I don’t see Andrew as a troll. I think he likes to defend ideas he believes in and is willing to shift goal posts to be ‘right’ at times, but I see sincere participation from him. I do think he absorbs some of what he reads too, and will wrestle with things outside his comfort zone. I would say it’s normal behavior for a forum built around discussion of ideas.
From my perspective, all you do is polemic and divisive. Maybe not troll.
Genuinely unrelated to the above comments - I’m checking out of this thread.
Stuff going on in the personal life, I hope y’all understand.
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Tomato, tomato.
Some dudes are just rigid in their beliefs and like arguing while having no commitment to understanding the other point of view.
We are 619 posts into this thread, and several are still arguing a point made three hundred responses ago.
So he might not be a troll, others are just disturbers, the rest of us just moved on.
This thread is dead except for the incel Beta Cucks that need to win an argument.
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