And there it is. Ironic you’re needing validation from a belief system where a virgin gave birth.
I don’t know if logic can apply here, honestly. But to answer your question, I would say a woman would make a good spouse if she loves you, matches your desired level of commitment and monogamy together, is supportive and all the other hallmark stuff.
Do you quiz women on how many people they have had sex with when you meet them? Sincerely asking.
The historical “double standard” is aimed at women because they are the choosers in sexual relations and get pregnant. Reasons for the double standard has been gone over a few times in other threads, primarily to prevent bastardy. There is other reason too.
Even if slut shaming was applied to men it wouldn’t work because the ones who weren’t deterred by shame would still be able to impregnate loads of women and not be able to invest in and properly raise their fatherless children.
Only contraception makes sexual liberation possible for women.
I’ve read this sentiment a few times now. Sex for me has been a mutual experience. I’ve been turned down by women, so sure, they chose. I’ve also turned women down. I’ve had mutually consenting sex as well. I don’t buy the line.
In the absence of religious beliefs, what does that even mean? Your, or her, “desired level of commitment and monogamy” could be sky high one second and dirt low the next, and it wouldn’t matter a bit.
But I’ll agree with one thing: if nothing matters, then it’s silly to worry about body count or anything else.
I did agree that these aren’t the right questions. But whether or not she will cheat is an important question. I’d say that not cheating is necessary but not sufficient on its own.
If that’s the first thing you think about when assessing Christianity, you are ignorant. It’s a belief system that is founded on the concept of forgiveness. Keep in mind Jesus said that prostitutes would get into heaven before the Pharisees. He also said the greater the debt forgiven, the greater the love for the one who forgives. He followed that by forgiving a prostitute who had shown Him love.
What you seem to be arguing is that it’s possible for a ho to become a housewife. I suppose many things are possible. Everyone else seems to be arguing that it’s not a great bet.
Why don’t you provide evidence supporting the benefits of promiscuity? How does it make society better?
Feminism, which supports promiscuity, is based on selfishness. It’s all about individual women and what makes them happy.
Those arguing against it are thinking about society, it’s about sacrifice and selflessness (things that are necessary when having a family, the bedrock of civilization).
The irony is that the only reason feminists have the luxury, the privilege, to believe in an ideology that is based on selfishness is because of the conditions of the society they live in, a society built by men who believed in sacrifice, selflessness and family.
I appreciate that you’re trying to push a point so hard but it doesn’t have to be this complicated.
Sex is fun. People have sex for many reasons. The primary reasons by my estimation are for recreation first, procreation second. That’s it. I’m not interested in extrapolating to world dominance.
I’m still waiting for you to answer when “too many” comes in to effect. So far your response has been “I would never ask a woman that”, and so you agree that body count doesn’t matter….
In other words, you cannot refute the argument that promiscuity is a behavior that is negative and even destructive.
I’m not you, I answer questions. In this case, as I’ve already stated, too many comes into effect when it comes into effect. It’s like drinking; how many beers are too many? Keep drinking until you are drunk, then you’ll have your answer.
I think people are talking across each other here…
no one is advocating for screwing randomly and ignoring risk. The “”“”““pro-promiscuity””“”“” people are saying that
there isn’t a clear limit for what “too high” is so does it REALLY matter more than other things in a relationship
there’s nothing wrong with women (and men) enjoying sex even if they are not in a committed relationship, especially when consequences can be easily avoided
This has been brought up several times. I wonder why. Everyone here no matter their sentiments enjoys sex. There is not one poster here who said something is wrong with sex.