[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?[/quote]
I have elbow pain doing skull crushers if I bring the bar to my forehead, If I bring the bar behind my head I am fine. The exercise has some elements of a pullover when done this way, but it is better than not being able to do them at all.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?[/quote]
Ive felt pain before doing skullcrushers or Overhead DB arcs. I solved the problem by changing the angle in which i held my arm or adjusting the Rom.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?[/quote]
Ive felt pain before doing skullcrushers or Overhead DB arcs. I solved the problem by changing the angle in which i held my arm or adjusting the Rom.[/quote]
Alright I’ll give some other angles a try tonight.
Hey Akuma what do you think of reverse-grip bench presses? I like loading up a bar for heavy tri exercises, so I’ve gone with CG and RG presses, but I’ve never tried it in the smith machine like someone mentioned above. Any idea which head that would hit?
[quote]dka1344 wrote:
Hey Akuma what do you think of reverse-grip bench presses? I like loading up a bar for heavy tri exercises, so I’ve gone with CG and RG presses, but I’ve never tried it in the smith machine like someone mentioned above. Any idea which head that would hit?[/quote]
Not effective? Uncomfortable? Figured I’d ask cuz I know Cephalic_Carnage is a fan and they seem to work for me, I’ve been doing shoulder-width RG though and I plan on trying a wider grip to see if it isolates the tris better
[quote]dka1344 wrote:
Not effective? Uncomfortable? Figured I’d ask cuz I know Cephalic_Carnage is a fan and they seem to work for me, I’ve been doing shoulder-width RG though and I plan on trying a wider grip to see if it isolates the tris better[/quote]
I cant comment on its effectiveness since i never really used it for prolonged periods. It is a bit uncomfortable. There’s also the safety factory. It just seems like it’d be a weaker movement and a more vulnerable position for straining lower forearm muscles and wrist joints and/or dropping weights on yourself.
[edit] maybe ill give it another shot in, say the smith cage with the stoppers up, tomorrow when i hit arms. I remember when i first went to try it and didnt care for it. Kinda never gave it a second thought til now lol
[quote]dka1344 wrote:
Also, what about reverse grip barbell curls? i.e. overhand grip. I guess my theme today is reverse everything[/quote]
A good lead in to forearms. I train forearms at the end of my Arms routine (as to not lose any strength on my grip), so normally my last bicep exercise will be a lead in, with both a bicep contraction, and focus on the forearm movement (Say for example, emphasis on the Radial abduction/adduction of the palm when hammer curling or Palmar extension/flexion if using a barbell).
Do you train forearms for mass or strength? I find that I get plenty of strength work with deads on leg day and partial deads and bent over rows on on back day.
Also, how do you go about it- there are so many options, wrist curls/extensions? Stuff like farmer walks, barbell walkouts (where you hold a heavy barbell and walk your hands out and back in)? Rotation? Pinch grips?
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?[/quote]
I have elbow pain doing skull crushers if I bring the bar to my forehead, If I bring the bar behind my head I am fine. The exercise has some elements of a pullover when done this way, but it is better than not being able to do them at all.[/quote]
Most people think that elbow pain is caused by exercising the tricep and the pain is the elbow, when in fact the pain is cause when the hand is pushed backwards stretching the posterior forearm muscles which cause the tendon connecting the forearm muscle onto the humerus to become agitated thus causing the pain.
This happens a lot especially with skull crushers as most people let their hands relax a bit. Try keeping the hand in line with the forearm and this should stop the pain.
[quote]dka1344 wrote:
Do you train forearms for mass or strength? I find that I get plenty of strength work with deads on leg day and partial deads and bent over rows on on back day.
Also, how do you go about it- there are so many options, wrist curls/extensions? Stuff like farmer walks, barbell walkouts (where you hold a heavy barbell and walk your hands out and back in)? Rotation? Pinch grips?
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Mass. I do it through just what you said, wrist curls/extensions. Dumbbells and barbells.
[quote]dka1344 wrote:
Do you train forearms for mass or strength? I find that I get plenty of strength work with deads on leg day and partial deads and bent over rows on on back day.
Also, how do you go about it- there are so many options, wrist curls/extensions? Stuff like farmer walks, barbell walkouts (where you hold a heavy barbell and walk your hands out and back in)? Rotation? Pinch grips?
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Mass. I do it through just what you said, wrist curls/extensions. Dumbbells and barbells.[/quote]
Same here, i also like to do heavy dumbbell farmer’s walk and also I like to hang in the pull up position, really strengthens my grip
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?[/quote]
I have elbow pain doing skull crushers if I bring the bar to my forehead, If I bring the bar behind my head I am fine. The exercise has some elements of a pullover when done this way, but it is better than not being able to do them at all.[/quote]
Most people think that elbow pain is caused by exercising the tricep and the pain is the elbow, when in fact the pain is cause when the hand is pushed backwards stretching the posterior forearm muscles which cause the tendon connecting the forearm muscle onto the humerus to become agitated thus causing the pain.
This happens a lot especially with skull crushers as most people let their hands relax a bit. Try keeping the hand in line with the forearm and this should stop the pain.[/quote]
[quote]Doyle wrote:
I usually find that the people with small triceps compared to biceps are the ones who love doing 12 rep sets all the time and overload techniques like dropsets.
I think the tris respond best to heavy pressing. Most important tri exercises for me are dips and close grip bp. I always start my arm workout with one of these, then I usually do overhead db extensions or scull crushers (with a bit of a pullover action) and last, some push downs. [/quote]
Gotta disagree with you here. Not everyone is put together the same way obviously, and might not get as much tricep activation out of those big, money “tricep-focused” exercises. I followed your way of thinking for the majority of my training career (until recently), and my triceps are fucking pitiful.
I definitely have worse-than-average genetics in this department, but still. I worked up to some fairly respectable numbers I thought (315x8 on CGBP, for instance), and still pathetic. I’m now getting more creative with my tricep training, using more volume, etc, in hopes that they’re respond better.
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Of course there are exceptions, I was just commenting on wat I had experienced and a general trend I noticed in guys at my gym.
I also think that I got the best results from pressing because I had neglected it in favor of isolation exercises for so long.
