[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
And…biceps after shoulders sucks, it really does. I would not recommend it at all.[/quote]
x2, I think CC has touched on this several times before.
I get elbow pain during preachers as well but nothing too serious…yet. No pain from DB’s though and honestly I can go a little heavier with them anyway.
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily.
I have no strength if I do Biceps afters shoulders Akuma, I also seem more prone to injury. As plateau said, the bicep tendon is pretty much directly linked to the shoulder joint and when the shoulder is fatigued I find it pretty much impossible to do a good bicep workout.
huh…maybe im just used to it. ive had the same workout split since i started lifting lol.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
huh…maybe im just used to it. ive had the same workout split since i started lifting lol.[/quote]
Yah, that’s most likely it. I know some people don’t like doing biceps after back because their arms are tired but I’ve been doing it that way for so long it doesn’t even bother me.
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily. [/quote]
It’s called the lazy head for a reason! Well this is true for me anyway…
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily. [/quote]
No way. Are you sure that you know which head is the lateral head?
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily. [/quote]
No way. Are you sure that you know which head is the lateral head? [/quote]
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily. [/quote]
No way. Are you sure that you know which head is the lateral head? [/quote]
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Haha thank you Cerebus.
on monday (arms/shoulder day) I do shoulders AFTER biceps and triceps. Is this ok? I do a bicep exercise, then a tricep, then a bicep, then a tricep, then lat raises, rear delts, then seated db overhead press. I just started doing db overhead press (got 40’s 10 times)
Just skimmed this thread, but the best triceps exercise I’ve ever done I saw in a video on this site. I looked all over but I can’t remember where it was.
You do overhead rope extensions with your hands apart and flaring your wrists on each rep until you can’t get any more. Then you switch to hands together but bring them apart again on the negative. And go really slow and controlled on the negative. This part of the exercise will give you a burn like nothing else. When you can’t get any more of those, rep it out with your hands together. It’s like a mini drop set, hands together is a lot easier than hands apart. In total 25-30 reps. This put stretchmarks on my tris and is great for guys like me who get pain when they do heavy dips or skulls.
[quote]Akuma01 wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
I’m surprised by the number of people mentioning a weak lateral head, it seems to me that most have it developed more easily. [/quote]
No way. Are you sure that you know which head is the lateral head? [/quote]
I’m going to guess the ones in the lateral position of the body? 
Yes…I know which it is
Like you said for Jeff’s triceps “The Long head is tiny and completely overshadowed by the lateral head”
Just as far as standing out goes, I often see pics and other people where the lateral head is pretty noticeable but theres not much long head showing.
[quote]overstand wrote:
Just skimmed this thread, but the best triceps exercise I’ve ever done I saw in a video on this site. I looked all over but I can’t remember where it was.
You do overhead rope extensions with your hands apart and flaring your wrists on each rep until you can’t get any more. Then you switch to hands together but bring them apart again on the negative. And go really slow and controlled on the negative. This part of the exercise will give you a burn like nothing else. When you can’t get any more of those, rep it out with your hands together. It’s like a mini drop set, hands together is a lot easier than hands apart. In total 25-30 reps. This put stretchmarks on my tris and is great for guys like me who get pain when they do heavy dips or skulls. [/quote]
Was it this Justin Harris video?
Paul Demayo’s triceps were also up with Levrone, Dillett and Priest.
Had my first arms workout today Akuma! Let me know what you think
BB Curls
worked up to 95 X 10 PR, 100 X 6
DB Preacher Curls
35 X 9 PR
40 X 4 PR
Incline Hammer Curls
40 X 6 X 2
Dropset: 40 X 5, 30 X 5
Incline CGBP From Pins
155 X 5 X 2 PR
Dropset: 165 X 4 PR, 135 X 4
Cable Pushdowns
3 sets 8-12
Cable Overhead Extenions
did 1 set with both hands, and 2 sets with 1 arm at a time
Do you think I should swap anything out, or make any changes? I appreciate it man! Can’t wait to get these little b*tches growing
I quite happy with my tricepa developmet. They seem to do just fine from all the work they get on chest day, especially from weighted dips. That being said, I still hit my tris hard, usually on shoulder day but I only really do about 3 excersises for them and that’s about it. My bis on the other hand, now that’s a totally different story. I have long muscle bellies in my bis and while that may be good for size and volume it’s eeally tough to get them to peak.
I usually find that the people with small triceps compared to biceps are the ones who love doing 12 rep sets all the time and overload techniques like dropsets.
I think the tris respond best to heavy pressing. Most important tri exercises for me are dips and close grip bp. I always start my arm workout with one of these, then I usually do overhead db extensions or scull crushers (with a bit of a pullover action) and last, some push downs.
I’ve had great long head success with Larry Scott extensions and Harris extensions…which are kind of the same movement, both put a great stretch on the triceps in an overhead position thus targeting the long head.
[quote]Doyle wrote:
I usually find that the people with small triceps compared to biceps are the ones who love doing 12 rep sets all the time and overload techniques like dropsets.
I think the tris respond best to heavy pressing. Most important tri exercises for me are dips and close grip bp. I always start my arm workout with one of these, then I usually do overhead db extensions or scull crushers (with a bit of a pullover action) and last, some push downs. [/quote]
Gotta disagree with you here. Not everyone is put together the same way obviously, and might not get as much tricep activation out of those big, money “tricep-focused” exercises. I followed your way of thinking for the majority of my training career (until recently), and my triceps are fucking pitiful.
I definitely have worse-than-average genetics in this department, but still. I worked up to some fairly respectable numbers I thought (315x8 on CGBP, for instance), and still pathetic. I’m now getting more creative with my tricep training, using more volume, etc, in hopes that they’re respond better.
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
[quote]Doyle wrote:
I usually find that the people with small triceps compared to biceps are the ones who love doing 12 rep sets all the time and overload techniques like dropsets.
I think the tris respond best to heavy pressing. Most important tri exercises for me are dips and close grip bp. I always start my arm workout with one of these, then I usually do overhead db extensions or scull crushers (with a bit of a pullover action) and last, some push downs. [/quote]
Gotta disagree with you here. Not everyone is put together the same way obviously, and might not get as much tricep activation out of those big, money “tricep-focused” exercises. I followed your way of thinking for the majority of my training career (until recently), and my triceps are fucking pitiful.
I definitely have worse-than-average genetics in this department, but still. I worked up to some fairly respectable numbers I thought (315x8 on CGBP, for instance), and still pathetic. I’m now getting more creative with my tricep training, using more volume, etc, in hopes that they’re respond better.
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you know, i used to do CGBP often myself, but when i got up to 315s i kinda stopped enjoying the movement lol. To feel the most i could, id have to grip it Gorilla style, and something just doesnt feel right holding that much weight over yourself with a shitty ass grip lol.
For me personally, there are 2 or 3 exercises for triceps that really hurt my elbows. One is skullcrushers, the other one is just like skullcrushers, but with dumbbells.
For some reason the angle my arms are at in relation to my body cause my elbows pain. Therefore I generally stick to the other tricep exercises.
Any explanation for the pain? Do I just need to start super light for a few weeks to build up some week ligaments/tendons?
