Do Men Look at Porn?

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
He may not have said it in the most tactful way, but Orion has actually given Spock the most helpful advice. She has said that she literally CANNOT get a date. She’s got to change something. Telling her she’s great just the way she is might very well be true, but that won’t help her get a date. It’s not about changing who she is, it’s about changing how she interacts with the opposite sex.[/quote]

x2. The woman said she wanted to get laid. Like it or not, men are shallow. I’m sure that Spock is intelligent and experienced enough to realize this, and this is not the issue. If she isn’t consistently playing way out of her league, then it seems logical that the most probable reason for her issue is that some aspect of the impression she gives guys is a dealbreaker. Or possibly, several aspects. I think Orion drew the right conclusion.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
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  1. Take nudie photos of HER. Fap to 'em. Let her know you fap to 'em. Let her catch you fapping to them.

She’ll love it.[/quote]

I’m betting she’ll be to prude to let him take pics[/quote]

There are ways to develop your woman.

That’s right, if a man plays it right, he SHOULD be able to take a normal woman with a decent sex drive, even if she is initially a prude, and help mold her into a more sexy, confident, non-prudish woman. It may take time and finesse but it can be done in my opinion, generally speaking.

Some of the problems that guys have with their women can sometimes be traced to the guy.

Some of you are just assholes.

Some of you are just plain stupid.

Some of you need a sense of humor and to learn how to put women at ease.

Some of you are just young and inexperienced and you might just need some knowledge and wisdom to go along with more experience.

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Push-
I don’t know where the thread is, but I hope your son is doing better. Best Wishes.
Sorry to hijack/
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Much better.

He’s nn the gym consistently already. Hand is still bandaged but he’s even doing upper body movements with a wrist strap/hook. I’m so proud of him I could burst.[/quote]
Awesome. I’m happy for you and the family.

This thread reminds me of this clip. I’m just not sure who is who.

You know why people think you’re being an asshole, Orion?

You actually addressed Spock on a topic that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. You brought up something that she mentioned on another thread and turned it into some psychological bullshit. She never asked for a sexual rejection help. Her original post was about double standards with regards to male/female sexuality.

What was the point of you writing that shit few posts back? Trying to embarrass her? It’s not like she asked, ‘Hey O, I need some help to get laid and keep a guy. Please help me!!!’

And now you’re backpeddling, saying you originally asked her a question whereas you started the passive aggressive attacks and judgemental drivel.

So yes, you’ve been a fucking asshole. I don’t know what the fuck’s wrong with you these days.

[quote]orion wrote:
Oh and unless you are willing to put in writing that you will marry, support and love her and her kid when she has turned 35 and it hasnt quite turned out that well, go away. [/quote]

So 35, single and with kid is the end of the life for a woman?

Shit, I wasn’t aware of that. I guess I’ve got 9/10 more years to enjoy before I get ‘‘shelved’’. And If I ain’t married and with a kid, I’m a failure and I’m even more fucked.

LMFAO, the shit people put in others’ mind. Fuck society’s attitudes toward single mothers.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
You know why people think you’re being an asshole, Orion?

You actually addressed Spock on a topic that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. You brought up something that she mentioned on another thread and turned it into some psychological bullshit. She never asked for a sexual rejection help. Her original post was about double standards with regards to male/female sexuality.

What was the point of you writing that shit few posts back? Trying to embarrass her? It’s not like she asked, ‘Hey O, I need some help to get laid and keep a guy. Please help me!!!’

And now you’re backpeddling, saying you originally asked her a question whereas you started the passive aggressive attacks and judgemental drivel.

So yes, you’ve been a fucking asshole. I don’t know what the fuck’s wrong with you these days.[/quote]

Nonsense.

What could I possibly get out of embarassing her?

With all due respect, that is beyond idiotic.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Oh and unless you are willing to put in writing that you will marry, support and love her and her kid when she has turned 35 and it hasnt quite turned out that well, go away. [/quote]

So 35, single and with kid is the end of the life for a woman?

Shit, I wasn’t aware of that. I guess I’ve got 9/10 more years to enjoy before I get ‘‘shelved’’. And If I ain’t married and with a kid, I’m a failure and I’m even more fucked.

LMFAO, the shit people put in others’ mind. Fuck society’s attitudes toward single mothers.[/quote]

You have chosen your path.

That is not necessarily hers.

Smoothing out your own insecurities by dragging her along the same path would be kind of a dick move.

If that is what it is happening.

You may have noticed that my approach would make her grow and let her make her own decisions.

You, offer … what exactly?

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
You know why people think you’re being an asshole, Orion?

You actually addressed Spock on a topic that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. You brought up something that she mentioned on another thread and turned it into some psychological bullshit. She never asked for a sexual rejection help. Her original post was about double standards with regards to male/female sexuality.

What was the point of you writing that shit few posts back? Trying to embarrass her? It’s not like she asked, ‘Hey O, I need some help to get laid and keep a guy. Please help me!!!’

And now you’re backpeddling, saying you originally asked her a question whereas you started the passive aggressive attacks and judgemental drivel.

So yes, you’ve been a fucking asshole. I don’t know what the fuck’s wrong with you these days.[/quote]

Also, what is wrong with you?

I asked a question.

Period.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
You know why people think you’re being an asshole, Orion?

You actually addressed Spock on a topic that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. You brought up something that she mentioned on another thread and turned it into some psychological bullshit. She never asked for a sexual rejection help. Her original post was about double standards with regards to male/female sexuality.

What was the point of you writing that shit few posts back? Trying to embarrass her? It’s not like she asked, ‘Hey O, I need some help to get laid and keep a guy. Please help me!!!’

And now you’re backpeddling, saying you originally asked her a question whereas you started the passive aggressive attacks and judgemental drivel.

So yes, you’ve been a fucking asshole. I don’t know what the fuck’s wrong with you these days.[/quote]

Also, what is wrong with you?

I asked a question.

Period.

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You didn’t start by asking a question, did you?

You asked questions after Spock replied to your passive aggressive post.

If you really wanted to help, as you claim to say, you could have been at least more tactful in your approach. I perceived your post as an attack on her character, her sexual life yada yada…
if you feel that wasn’t the case, then fair enough, O.

But many don’t agree though.

[quote]orion wrote:

You have chosen your path. [/quote]

And what that would be, O mighty O? Please enlighten me.

[quote]orion wrote:
That is not necessarily hers. [/quote]

Then why, o why, do you keep on harping on about her ending up alone, unmarried by 35? Why do you make it seem like a horrible thing to happen to a woman?

[quote]orion wrote:
Smoothing out your own insecurities by dragging her along the same path would be kind of a dick move. [/quote]

Whose insecurities? Yours, I hope. 'Cos insecure is not a word I know.

[quote]orion wrote:
If that is what it is happening. [/quote]

No. It ain’t what’s happening. I’m just laughing at you making it seems that single women in their mid-thirties with kids are a lost cause. As if there ain’t anything out there that could make their life more meaningful other than marriage, or a man.

[quote]orion wrote
You may have noticed that my approach would make her grow and let her make her own decisions.
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There are a couple of posts I agree with but the way you originally approached the subject was shitty, Orion.

[quote]orion wrote
You, offer … what exactly?[/quote]

Spock didn’t ask for your advice. She didn’t ask anyone’s advice. I’ll offer my service when she asks me to.

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
You know why people think you’re being an asshole, Orion?

You actually addressed Spock on a topic that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. You brought up something that she mentioned on another thread and turned it into some psychological bullshit. She never asked for a sexual rejection help. Her original post was about double standards with regards to male/female sexuality.

What was the point of you writing that shit few posts back? Trying to embarrass her? It’s not like she asked, ‘Hey O, I need some help to get laid and keep a guy. Please help me!!!’

And now you’re backpeddling, saying you originally asked her a question whereas you started the passive aggressive attacks and judgemental drivel.

So yes, you’ve been a fucking asshole. I don’t know what the fuck’s wrong with you these days.[/quote]

Also, what is wrong with you?

I asked a question.

Period.

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You didn’t start by asking a question, did you?

You asked questions after Spock replied to your passive aggressive post.

If you really wanted to help, as you claim to say, you could have been at least more tactful in your approach. I perceived your post as an attack on her character, her sexual life yada yada…
if you feel that wasn’t the case, then fair enough, O.

But many don’t agree though.
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That was not an attack on her character, that was a publkic service announcement what she communicates under the table while she talks officially over it.

I happen to think that it was spot on and that she should skip it IRL.

Maybe you could focus less on what my motives are (I would like her to get her shit together if you must know) and more on whether what I post makes sense or not.

I could the most passive aggressive feminazitransgenderedromneyvotingbiblethumpingwhatever and I could still be right.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

90% of the guys here would happily nail the shit out of you.[/quote]

And then they would do what?

None of you are helping her.

And her time is running out.

Please, reinforce her belief that “the right one will just come along” and “like her just the way she is”.

Not A SINGLE ONE OF YOU WILL BE THERE WHEN THAT DOES NOT PAN OUT.

But you can feel good about yourself for a single moment because you can “support” he against the mean meanie.

Gentlemen I would entertain the idea that it is not me who is the asshole here.

Her clock is ticking and Prince Charming lives in the land where princesses ride unicorns.

Either you buy her a ticket there or you do not pile on to sabotage her ine the world we actually live in, if that would be at all possible, thank you. [/quote]

She doesn’t need any help, you’re just being a jack ass. I didn’t see where she was asking for your help. You’re just being mean and condescending like you know or something.
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Look you dolt, I asked her, and I quote:

“Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?”

Game that is.

Like flirting.

Like how to get a date.

Like how to date to get another one.

Which would lead to things like sex and relationships and, maybe, trust and intimacy and shared mempories…

You know what?

You are right.

I am a monster.

She should clearly do what she is doing, because it seems to be working exceedingly well for her, the mere idea that someone should grow by tackling his or her problems is obviously a pipe dream, and being the ackward cat lady at 40 is really the best once can hope for in this valley of tears.

In short, I did not offer anything, I asked a question, I am right, you are wrong and unless you are willing to put in writing that you will marry, support and love her and her kid when she has turned 35 and it hasnt quite turned out that well, go away. [/quote]

You’re the only one who thinks you’re being helpful. Everyone else thinks you’re being a cunt. It’s not “asking a question” or some tough love bullshit, you’re just being an asshat. I don’t see people on here hoping they fucking turn out like you either, so why don’t you just tone it down.
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I.

Literally.

Asked.

A.

Question.

The rest, is all in your head.

And in her qualifying and in your reinforcing her BS.

She.

Cannot.

Get.

A.

Date.

Year.

Old.

Girls.

Can.

Bitch, moan, do a handstand, IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.

Anything else?

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Orion keepin it real

The rest of yall doing that shit from SAMA where a dude would say something obvious and everyone would lose their shit.

[quote]orion wrote:
What you wrote when you wrote about that you are an expert when it comes to sexual rejection. bascially have heard it all, including examples, I immediately made a list in my mind of how many men had sex with you and then did not pursue it further.

Once you start paying attention to the subcommunication you see it everywhere.

What you were advertising was that you had sex with a handful of guys who first did the deed and then rejected you.

No matter what really happened, that advertises:

1- Easy lay

2- not a keeper, because other men have rejected you

3- not bright or socially aware enough to get that she practically screams it from the rooftops.
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[quote]orion wrote:
And her time is running out.

Please, reinforce her belief that “the right one will just come along” and “like her just the way she is”.

Not A SINGLE ONE OF YOU WILL BE THERE WHEN THAT DOES NOT PAN OUT.

But you can feel good about yourself for a single moment because you can “support” he against the mean meanie.

Gentlemen I would entertain the idea that it is not me who is the asshole here.

Her clock is ticking and Prince Charming lives in the land where princesses ride unicorns.

Either you buy her a ticket there or you do not pile on to sabotage her ine the world we actually live in, if that would be at all possible, thank you. [/quote]

“All I did was ask a question”

Well there isn’t a single question in there you stupid fuck. Just a bunch of derogatory and insulting garbage. That’s why you’re a piece of shit.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

90% of the guys here would happily nail the shit out of you.[/quote]

And then they would do what?

None of you are helping her.

And her time is running out.

Please, reinforce her belief that “the right one will just come along” and “like her just the way she is”.

Not A SINGLE ONE OF YOU WILL BE THERE WHEN THAT DOES NOT PAN OUT.

But you can feel good about yourself for a single moment because you can “support” he against the mean meanie.

Gentlemen I would entertain the idea that it is not me who is the asshole here.

Her clock is ticking and Prince Charming lives in the land where princesses ride unicorns.

Either you buy her a ticket there or you do not pile on to sabotage her ine the world we actually live in, if that would be at all possible, thank you. [/quote]

She doesn’t need any help, you’re just being a jack ass. I didn’t see where she was asking for your help. You’re just being mean and condescending like you know or something.
[/quote]

Look you dolt, I asked her, and I quote:

“Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?”

Game that is.

Like flirting.

Like how to get a date.

Like how to date to get another one.

Which would lead to things like sex and relationships and, maybe, trust and intimacy and shared mempories…

You know what?

You are right.

I am a monster.

She should clearly do what she is doing, because it seems to be working exceedingly well for her, the mere idea that someone should grow by tackling his or her problems is obviously a pipe dream, and being the ackward cat lady at 40 is really the best once can hope for in this valley of tears.

In short, I did not offer anything, I asked a question, I am right, you are wrong and unless you are willing to put in writing that you will marry, support and love her and her kid when she has turned 35 and it hasnt quite turned out that well, go away. [/quote]

You’re the only one who thinks you’re being helpful. Everyone else thinks you’re being a cunt. It’s not “asking a question” or some tough love bullshit, you’re just being an asshat. I don’t see people on here hoping they fucking turn out like you either, so why don’t you just tone it down.
[/quote]

I.

Literally.

Asked.

A.

Question.

The rest, is all in your head.

And in her qualifying and in your reinforcing her BS.

She.

Cannot.

Get.

A.

Date.

Year.

Old.

Girls.

Can.

Bitch, moan, do a handstand, IT WILL NOT CHANGE THAT.

Anything else?

[/quote]

Orion keepin it real

The rest of yall doing that shit from SAMA where a dude would say something obvious and everyone would lose their shit.
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First of all, I think Spock is awsome and funny and brings a lot to the PL forum…

but aye… truth can hurt and I think Orion made some decent points and didn’t fluff and pad them for a subject that can be sensitive to many so now he’s getting backlash because of that.

Sometimes life isn’t 100 percent fair and sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself is accept it and work with the way it is and maybe even learn to like it.

Power to you Spock and best of luck to you whatever you decide!

Yes men look at porn.
No, you shouldn’t have promised your wife that.
Orion, you’re a cunt. You may have a few valid points, but you’re a cunt nonetheless.

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[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Orion keepin it real

The rest of yall doing that shit from SAMA where a dude would say something obvious and everyone would lose their shit.[/quote]

Definitely.

And besides, don’t those fictional vulcans actually despise the way emotion clouds logical thought?

And maybe they’re actually onto something?