My girlfriend was really mad and upset today because I told her I looked at playboy. I love her and don’t want to hurt her, but she said it makes her feel inferior and not good enough for me. It seems that every guy looks at dirty mags every once in a while. T-vixens, let me know how your guy looking at these mags makes you feel. T-men, let me know your opinions of these mags. She doesn’t even like me reading bodybuilding magazines (other than Testosterone!) Thanks everyone!
Your girl is obviously control freak with emotional baggage and low self esteem. Be careful, please, or she will tame you and put a nice collar around your neck.
Seriously,tell your woman to get a grip.That’s the biggest set of bullshit lines a woman can throw.She just wants you doing one more thing that she says.If my woman ever told me to stop being a T-man(which is basically what is happening in your situation) I’d laugh my ass off.Does she look at men in every day life?I agree,don’t sit there and look at the mags while you could be paying attention to her,but there’s nothing wrong with looking at beautiful women in a mag.It’s your hormones,you’re not evil.I think I’m gonna agree with Axy,any woman that acts that way has issues.
Playboy is NOT porno. Last time I checked, Maxim had better pics than Playboy. Even if it was High Society, Score, Juggs, Voluptous, Hustler, Penthouse, Mayfair or Swank she shouldn’t be freaking out. I thought everyone knew that girls read too much into that stuff. TC (I think) said it best in an Atomic Dog thing: if you can’t be doing it, the next best thing is to watch others doing it.
Hmmm, interesting. Ko doesn’t need them rags - he’s got me.
Axy’s right, low selfesteem. My wife looks at the mags with me. She also expects me to look at attractive women. She even points them out for me. I also expect her to look at guys, no biggie. Your gf is obviously not feeling to secure in your relationship. I see more trouble ahead. Fix it now or walk.
No, there’s nothing wrong with you - except why’d you have to tell her about it. You were just asking for trouble with that one. I have a feeling there’s no harm done though, it’s only making her want you more.
Well, it looks like I’ll present the other side of the coin. When you look at that stuff, you are mentally cheating on your girl. Sure you did not do something with another physical human being, but you imagined it and she knows that. It is a hurtful thing to her when you look at pornography and you should respect and love her by stopping. I’ll be upfront about this and also mention that I am a Christian and I believe that pornography is wrong, but I realize that many people here are not Christians, so I tried to explain my reasoning above. I think it applies well to anyone. Please consider both sides of the coin and make the decision based on more than what a bunch of T-guys say.
Remember “Fatal Attraction”? Keep your rabbit in a safe place.
I probably should also add that we think them mags are kinda funny. What with all the “man-made” materials them women contain and the funny positions with the pouty by collagen lips and the use of vaseline on the cleavage to give 'em that extra “oomph-a”. The vaseline bit is also used on the Cosmo cover models. Which makes me think - why on earth are some chicks aghast over Playboy, et al and not Cosmo, Vogue, and whatever else chick mag? They have nudity and contain way more explicit articles - maybe NOT all of the time. Oh well, the only mags we get are Travel, Decor, Food and Wine and comic books. 
Jason,I respect your opinion on this form,but I have to say,your opinion on this stinks.But,it’s your opinion,and I guess thats your right.You “think it’s wrong”,well,almost everyone thought the earth was flat,but it wasn’t.“Mentally” cheating on his girlfriend?This is where I think most christians piss me off,can you honestly say you’ve never noticed a good looking girl before?If you thought she was attractive,you “mentally” cheated.As a matter of fact,just now,my girlfriend and I drove by a fireman.She “noticed” him,and said ooh,but I respect that.I guess he was very “attractive” to her.She loves me,I didn’t mind.By the way,shitdisturber,my girlfriend is the same way,maybe it’s Nova Scotian.I’ll close by saying once again,Jason,I’m not trying to pick a fight,just letting you know I believe your side of the coin is slightly shaded.
…So I guess ko hasn’t told you yet?..LOL
Some women care and some don’t. But my 1st wife used to read Playgirl and that bugged me. Reverse the situation and see how it feels. Would you mind if your girl drooled over some guy’s wang in a mag? My current gf has a real problem with nude pics (and porno) so I respect her feelings. And yes Axy my collar fits fine.
I’m very glad that we can discuss this topic openly without flaming each other. Have I ever noticed an attractive girl? Of course, but do I take it to the next level and mentally undress her or imagine us together? No. Taking it to the next level is when it has gone too far. Of course Playboy already takes it to that next level. It is completely impossible to live in America and control everything that crosses your eyesight (although you can avoid Playboy pretty easily). You can control how you react to this material though. You can turn away or you can focus on it. I choose to turn away when something such as an attractive scantily glad woman crosses my line of sight. I’m not trying to prove that I am holier than thou. What I’m trying to say is that you can control the way you respond to any given situation. I also have to admit that I am not perfect. It would be a lie for me to say that I have not noticed another woman before and taken it a step too far. I thank God for his forgiveness because of that. I’m not going to preach. If someone wants my opinion about Christianity and wants to hear why I believe in God, I will answer that in another thread.
Nice to hear that your collar fits just fine. Remember, it is your life. If you want to
spend it with a person that is so insecure she does not want to look at meaningless porn
and basically have fun - that is your problem. If she gets psychotic and threatens to
break your relationship because you show progress in the gym (I saw your pics, great progress if you want to know…) - guess what - it is your problem too! Do not think you
are something special. Almost all of my friends are complete pussy-whipped little bitches, basically their girlfriends’ belongings. This is pretty common behaviour. They all have nice collar and their collars fit fine, just like yours. More power to you all guys, if that is what you like and if that is how you want to spend your life. However, respect the fact there are some of us who have something called self-respect, have higher standards when it comes to partners, are not afraid to be alone instead of being with an inadequate person and basically have our own free will and do not need other people to think for us and shape the world around us because we can do it for ourselves.
If you were bothered by Playgirl pictures, it tells hella lot about you too and your
insecurity. In this case, you and your girlfriend are a perfect fit.
No collar for this dog - ever.
Most of guys like you turn your brains on after you get the kids, divorce and after greedy psychotic bitch gets half of everything you own including significant portion of your total lifespan.
Like I sad - go for it!
Uh, if you don’t mind my asking–what the hell has happened to you that you are so bitter against women? I’ve noticed a pattern in your responses on every thread and you seem to REALLY hate women.
Wow! How impressive I can’t believe that there are guys that feel that way still, it almost sounds unreal! I’ve been w/ men that felt that way before but I didn’t know that they still exist, my boyfriend is faithfull as far as i know, but he’s still such a boy and i guess can’t bring himself that level…she’s a lucky girl!
GM, it is very simple and I will try to explain it now. First thing, I do not discuss women generally and you will not get answer to your question because it is based on false premises. You implied that I “talk bad about women” and that simply is not true - so I will not try to answer the question that has faulty basis.
I guess you are bothered by the fact that I mostly talk about things exactly the way I see them or even worse, the way they really are and it is definitely a big no-no nowadays. There are topics and situations in which such a behaviour is socially acceptable, but obviously, in a climate of overwhelming and mostly unneccessary political correctness, it is not allowed even to mention the slightest glitch in female psychology or behaviour, otherwise, very eager p.c. zealots start raising their defense lines. It is interesting that most of these evengelists are male and not female.
I think I did not say a single problematic thing, and I did not insult anybody. Where do you exactly see the problem in my viewpoints? If you pinpoint it, I might be able to explain them to you in details but I cannot give logical answer to an illogical, semantically completely off-the-track question.
Anyway, let me guess about what you really wanted to know. Generally, I do not trust people at all. Most likely personal experience, nothing else. I trust women a bit less than I trust men.
I like women because I am genetically predisposed so.
I don’t like games most women play due to their upbringing, genetic, physiological and psychological issues, family background, classic nature vs. nurture issues or anything else.
Back to this thread: sane, normal person of any sex, originating from urban western culture of any specific circle simply cannot have anything against softcore like Playboy or Playgirl, especially not to the point of arguing about it or somehow comparing himself/herself to the people portrayed in the pictorials. Study Freud. He would say that most of these people did not achieve genital phase of personality development.
If somebody wants to spend their life with immature husband or wife and work part-time as an amateur psychologist - go for it! More normal single women for me in the game…
Yes, another thing… I would be really, really, really worried about myself if somebody tried to control what I read and what I mustn’t read - Muscle Jeff says that she does not like to see him reading muscle mags. Come on people, I raise the psycho bitch pole-sign here!
Firstly, thanks for the compliment on the pics. Secondly, I understand what you’re saying but if you’re going to stay in a commited relationship there has to be some compromise. I don’t compromise my own happiness out-of-hand but on the other hand I’m not going to intentionally hurt someone I love by doing something I know bothers her greatly. She has her reasons for feeling that way and I have a duty to respect that. You can’t go around doing whatever comes to mind without it affecting the person that you’re with. She gives me the same respect that I give her in this regard. If something bothers me I tell her and she doesn’t do it just because it would make me unhappy. We’ve gone around about the ‘progress’ issue several times now. Yes, she feels insecure and thats her right. But, I’ve made it clear thru word and action that I’m not going to stop.