Do Men Look at Porn?

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I have a slightly off-topic question.
Oh, and people are allowed to hurt my feelings if they want to.

How come when guys talk about beating off or striking out/trying/wanting to get laid it’s all good, but when I talk about it it’s being sex starved and needy?

Why can’t I be like the female Louis CK? He talks about masturbation non-stop and it does so in a very self-deprecating manner.

I love Louis CK…

K sorry OP I don’t really have any advice for you, but I think you should be allowed to look at porn. :)[/quote]

I knew I forgot something.

What you wrote when you wrote about that you are an expert when it comes to sexual rejection. bascially have heard it all, including examples, I immediately made a list in my mind of how many men had sex with you and then did not pursue it further.

Once you start paying attention to the subcommunication you see it everywhere.

What you were advertising was that you had sex with a handful of guys who first did the deed and then rejected you.

No matter what really happened, that advertises:

1- Easy lay

2- not a keeper, because other men have rejected you

3- not bright or socially aware enough to get that she practically screams it from the rooftops.

If you send that vibe, even in jest, the worst of the worst will zero in on you for a quick pump and dump and I doubt that you want that.

Conclusion: It is not so much what you think you say or mean, its what other people hear that forms their opinion of you and since I actually want you to get your stuff together DO NOT EVER DO THAT IRL!!![/quote]

Oh non! That is not the message I was trying to send.
I have been rejected PRE-sex a handful of times, not POST-sex. The post-sex rejection is seldom, maybe that’s because of all the pre-sex rejection :/.

Anyway, I feel the need to defend/explain myself somewhat, even though I am sure that is not REALLY nessessary.

So uhh, yes…
I do not get asked out on dates, I do not get approached, and very rarely do I ever get hit on. Period. I have not been on a SINGLE REAL date in my entire life.
Unless you count one time when I was 13 and I went to the movies with a boy and one of my friends, LOL. I think we held hands…?

SO over the years this has led me to believe that A)Boys are not interested in really dating me and B)It’s up to me if I want to get laid.
Now since I have a hearty libido this means I need to attempt to catch multiple fish or the odds of me ever having a nice grilled salmon for dinner are slim to none.
I also DO NOT WILL NOT EVER EVER EVERRRR do any type of manipulation bullsHIT.
Therefore, my go-to try to get a guy move is “um so do you wanna do it?”
BLUNT question and probably a horrible approach, but seeing as I get laid once every 18-24 months I kinda like to just cut to the chase. Speed shit up a lil.
BUT, that also means my chance of being outwardly rejected is higher than most, (maybe, I dunno, I don’t have a lot of chick friends).
I SUPPOSE then I am an easy lay, but only if I actually want to sleep with someone. IF I want to fuck you I’ll fuck you right off the bat. I don’t really do all that play hard to get shit. Though I am sure that would make me seem somewhat classier, oh well.
It’s not as if I don’t have standards or want to sleep with any swinging dick (yay, I got to insert a no country for old men quote)!!>
I do not know why the post-sex rejection always occurs. I’m such a delightful little nugget of a gal. But I don’t think if someone fucks me I am going to let them know that the odds of them coming back for seconds don’t really work in my favor, LOL. That seems stupid.
I do like bitching about it on T-Nation though because if I don’t express HOW FUCKING FRSTRATED I AM EVERY SINGLE DAY…

Then I’d go even more batshit crazy than I already am :slight_smile:

I don’t really remember if I have a point.
No, no I don’t think I do.

BYE[/quote]

Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]
Perhaps you should heal thyself, before dispensing such advice?

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I think some people (probably more who are over the age of 40 now though) were raised to think “porn” was “evil”. I seriously doubt many people raised in the 80’s and later think like this though.

I have heard older women make noises as if oral sex was nasty. I think as a whole, the culture of the US has been pathetically behind as far as its concepts of sex and how open it should be.

I think it is changing slowly.

For instance…a patient came into my office yesterday breast feeding her kid openly. Maybe that would have shocked someone if this were 1980.

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[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:
I have a slightly off-topic question.
Oh, and people are allowed to hurt my feelings if they want to.

How come when guys talk about beating off or striking out/trying/wanting to get laid it’s all good, but when I talk about it it’s being sex starved and needy?

Why can’t I be like the female Louis CK? He talks about masturbation non-stop and it does so in a very self-deprecating manner.

I love Louis CK…

K sorry OP I don’t really have any advice for you, but I think you should be allowed to look at porn. :)[/quote]

I knew I forgot something.

What you wrote when you wrote about that you are an expert when it comes to sexual rejection. bascially have heard it all, including examples, I immediately made a list in my mind of how many men had sex with you and then did not pursue it further.

Once you start paying attention to the subcommunication you see it everywhere.

What you were advertising was that you had sex with a handful of guys who first did the deed and then rejected you.

No matter what really happened, that advertises:

1- Easy lay

2- not a keeper, because other men have rejected you

3- not bright or socially aware enough to get that she practically screams it from the rooftops.

If you send that vibe, even in jest, the worst of the worst will zero in on you for a quick pump and dump and I doubt that you want that.

Conclusion: It is not so much what you think you say or mean, its what other people hear that forms their opinion of you and since I actually want you to get your stuff together DO NOT EVER DO THAT IRL!!![/quote]

Oh non! That is not the message I was trying to send.
I have been rejected PRE-sex a handful of times, not POST-sex. The post-sex rejection is seldom, maybe that’s because of all the pre-sex rejection :/.

Anyway, I feel the need to defend/explain myself somewhat, even though I am sure that is not REALLY nessessary.

So uhh, yes…
I do not get asked out on dates, I do not get approached, and very rarely do I ever get hit on. Period. I have not been on a SINGLE REAL date in my entire life.
Unless you count one time when I was 13 and I went to the movies with a boy and one of my friends, LOL. I think we held hands…?

SO over the years this has led me to believe that A)Boys are not interested in really dating me and B)It’s up to me if I want to get laid.
Now since I have a hearty libido this means I need to attempt to catch multiple fish or the odds of me ever having a nice grilled salmon for dinner are slim to none.
I also DO NOT WILL NOT EVER EVER EVERRRR do any type of manipulation bullsHIT.
Therefore, my go-to try to get a guy move is “um so do you wanna do it?”
BLUNT question and probably a horrible approach, but seeing as I get laid once every 18-24 months I kinda like to just cut to the chase. Speed shit up a lil.
BUT, that also means my chance of being outwardly rejected is higher than most, (maybe, I dunno, I don’t have a lot of chick friends).
I SUPPOSE then I am an easy lay, but only if I actually want to sleep with someone. IF I want to fuck you I’ll fuck you right off the bat. I don’t really do all that play hard to get shit. Though I am sure that would make me seem somewhat classier, oh well.
It’s not as if I don’t have standards or want to sleep with any swinging dick (yay, I got to insert a no country for old men quote)!!>
I do not know why the post-sex rejection always occurs. I’m such a delightful little nugget of a gal. But I don’t think if someone fucks me I am going to let them know that the odds of them coming back for seconds don’t really work in my favor, LOL. That seems stupid.
I do like bitching about it on T-Nation though because if I don’t express HOW FUCKING FRSTRATED I AM EVERY SINGLE DAY…

Then I’d go even more batshit crazy than I already am :slight_smile:

I don’t really remember if I have a point.
No, no I don’t think I do.

BYE[/quote]

I was just lurking, but this is off the chain. Orion is being a flat-fucking jerk. Ignore him.
There is nothing wrong with you. I don’t know you, but your posts are funny and you seem to have a good personality.

90% of the guys here would happily nail the shit out of you.

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[quote]orion wrote:

Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]

But…but… I don’t want any game :'(.

I know how I do things and the way I think may be very ‘wrong’ to some, and very unproductive, but it’s who I am.

I haven’t gotten very far with it, but I truly believe there are people out there that will want me, be kind to me, and be relieved that I don’t operate quite like other women they have met before.

If I wind up alone, so be it.
I’ve gotten pretty damn good at fucking myself at this point.

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[quote]pat wrote:

I was just lurking, but this is off the chain. Orion is being a flat-fucking jerk. Ignore him.
There is nothing wrong with you. I don’t know you, but your posts are funny and you seem to have a good personality.

90% of the guys here would happily nail the shit out of you.[/quote]

This was the kindest, most wondefullest…sigh…

Thanks pat.

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[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]
You sound like a catch. Serious, no sarcasm. I like your approach, keep at it.

But…but… I don’t want any game :'(.

I know how I do things and the way I think may be very ‘wrong’ to some, and very unproductive, but it’s who I am.

I haven’t gotten very far with it, but I truly believe there are people out there that will want me, be kind to me, and be relieved that I don’t operate quite like other women they have met before.

If I wind up alone, so be it.
I’ve gotten pretty damn good at fucking myself at this point.
[/quote]

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

[quote]Spock81 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]
You sound like a catch. Serious, no sarcasm. I like your approach, keep at it.

But…but… I don’t want any game :'(.

I know how I do things and the way I think may be very ‘wrong’ to some, and very unproductive, but it’s who I am.

I haven’t gotten very far with it, but I truly believe there are people out there that will want me, be kind to me, and be relieved that I don’t operate quite like other women they have met before.

If I wind up alone, so be it.
I’ve gotten pretty damn good at fucking myself at this point.
[/quote]
[/quote]
You sound like a catch, seriously, no sarcasm. Keep your approach.

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if anyone I was involved with got mad at me for looking at porn. I would tell her to shut her mouth and quit being dumb and childish.

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I find this quite funny. I myself am gay, but my partner and I both look at porn and neither of us has a problem with the other doing the same. I find it ironic that your wife would question your “infidelity” with images on the internet. Did she elaborate on why this bothers her?

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[quote]orion wrote:
Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]

Or maybe she should just keep being herself. People here tend to like her that way. You’re overstepping your bounds as a self-proclaimed psychiatrist.

Also, yes, you are being multi-whiteknighted. I’m sure you knew beforehand that would happen when you were a jackass to Spock though.

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[quote]pat wrote:

90% of the guys here would happily nail the shit out of you.[/quote]

And then they would do what?

None of you are helping her.

And her time is running out.

Please, reinforce her belief that “the right one will just come along” and “like her just the way she is”.

Not A SINGLE ONE OF YOU WILL BE THERE WHEN THAT DOES NOT PAN OUT.

But you can feel good about yourself for a single moment because you can “support” he against the mean meanie.

Gentlemen I would entertain the idea that it is not me who is the asshole here.

Her clock is ticking and Prince Charming lives in the land where princesses ride unicorns.

Either you buy her a ticket there or you do not pile on to sabotage her ine the world we actually live in, if that would be at all possible, thank you.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Wow.

What you just wrote was that you have zero girl game.

Before I read that I would have thought that to bei impossible.

That should bei there by default.

Would you be open to the idea that your life might improve dramatically if you learned at least some?[/quote]

Or maybe she should just keep being herself. People here tend to like her that way. You’re overstepping your bounds as a self-proclaimed psychiatrist.

Also, yes, you are being multi-whiteknighted. I’m sure you knew beforehand that would happen when you were a jackass to Spock though.[/quote]

Yep, people like her that way.

So, she is liked on a website.

Cool beans.

Is that what she really, truly, want out of life.

Would it hurt her to actually learn how to flirt so that she actually gets dates instead of the one liner “Hey, lets fuck?”

You know date, like in two people of the opposite sex meet and get to know each other which is pretty much the only way any man of substance will ever get to know and be able to tell if she is nice or not.

Plus, how much “psychiatry” is it really if she cannot pull of a feat 12 year old girls manage with ease.

" Be just who you are" if you lack in an area is shitty advice.

And cruel and self serving too.

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LOL

she seems interesting
she works out
she can support herself and a kid(s)

In no way is she doomed to spend life alone just because she lacks “game” or some shit

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Hey Rhyno;I guess it’s about communication,maybe she feel’s excluded in some kind of vicarious infidelity.Have you ever invited her to participate,or is porn a thing a married?single man has to feel ashamed about. It also has a lot to do with the amount of time spent in the persuit of porn.Doe’s porn make your life unmanagable? If necessary could you not partake without distress,similar to any probable addictive drug,or behaviour. anyway thank’s for sharing john

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Orion,
So should she be someone she isn’t to try to lure a man in so she can be happy? Which she won’t be, because she isn’t being true to herself.

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Plus it would be so easy for her.

She can actually go to a guy in her family, not blood related, that would be ackward, or some aquaintance and tell him she is not sexually interested but she needs a flirt dummy.

She would get one, hell, she would get 5.

There is nothing to it really, compared to the dozends of crash and burns most men go through.

She could practice until it starts to get fun and hopefully it would “click” and what must be in there somewhere would fall into place.

Success!

You are all acting as if I wanted her to walk to streets to practice sucking cock.

Jesus.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
Orion,
So should she be someone she isn’t to try to lure a man in so she can be happy? Which she won’t be, because she isn’t being true to herself. [/quote]

No, she should learn to present who she is in the best possible light and to actually learn how to navigate social situations that get her what she wants.

Unless you feel you have tainted your soul by learning to read and write, this whole “be happy with who you are” is bullshit.

We would all be sitting in our own shit banging rocks together.

The truth is, learning the three Rs has enriched your life tremendously, you are a better person for it and if someone had told you to “stay who you are” and to not do it your mother would have chased him with a tire iron.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
Orion,
So should she be someone she isn’t to try to lure a man in so she can be happy? Which she won’t be, because she isn’t being true to herself. [/quote]

No, she should learn to present who she is in the best possible light and to actually learn how to navigate social situations that get her what she wants.

Unless you feel you have tainted your soul by learning to read and write, this whole “be happy with who you are” is bullshit.

We would all be sitting in our own shit banging rocks together.

The truth is, learning the three Rs has enriched your life tremendously, you are a better person for it and if someone had told you to “stay who you are” and to not do it your mother would have chased him with a tire iron. [/quote]
So learn social graces, in other words?

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
LOL

she seems interesting
she works out
she can support herself and a kid(s)

In no way is she doomed to spend life alone just because she lacks “game” or some shit[/quote]

Put in writing that you will marry, support and love her and her kid when she has turned 35 and it hasnt quite turned out that way or go away.

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[quote]strangemeadow wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]strangemeadow wrote:
Orion,
So should she be someone she isn’t to try to lure a man in so she can be happy? Which she won’t be, because she isn’t being true to herself. [/quote]

No, she should learn to present who she is in the best possible light and to actually learn how to navigate social situations that get her what she wants.

Unless you feel you have tainted your soul by learning to read and write, this whole “be happy with who you are” is bullshit.

We would all be sitting in our own shit banging rocks together.

The truth is, learning the three Rs has enriched your life tremendously, you are a better person for it and if someone had told you to “stay who you are” and to not do it your mother would have chased him with a tire iron. [/quote]
So learn social graces, in other words?[/quote]

YES