Do Fat People Piss You Off a Little?

This is too authoritarian for me.

Government would have to enforce this and government has done nothing but destroy the family unit and cause more problems.

Government and more regulation from government is NEVER the answer to anything unless you want it more fucked up.

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Good.

This is the most puzzling thing that always comes up in these conversations. And it doesn’t make women look good. It says women have no agency, that they cannot withhold from having sex with men that turn them on. And then if a man proposes that because of this lack of agency, male family members should “sign off” on who can even talk to their daughters, let alone seduce, then that’s described as bad too!

It’s like saying, “We cannot moderate ourselves. And you shouldn’t moderate us either. But you better clean up our messes.”

And this goes back to the OP in some way. No one should be kept in check or pushed around these days. No one should be shamed or moderated. Just deal with their excesses.

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If you want full autonomy and all the privileges that go with it, then you deal with the consequences of your actions. Nobody else is responsible for your poor choices and nobody else should have to deal with the fallout of those choices but you.

This is exactly what I was referring to in feminism of wanting to have all the rights and privileges, but none of the responsibility that comes with it.

That is where most of my ire comes in on it. Talking out of both sides of their face.

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This whole abortion thing seems like a big market failure

On the one side, you have parents who struggle to conceive. On the other side, there are women who can conceive but cannot support their children.

If the market functioned properly, those who can’t afford to raise a child healthily should be matched with a couple who cannot produce one → no children harmed, parents are better off → everyone wins

So Adoption agencies.

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It’s not a market failure. It’s an extremely regulated market.

Edit: There are also those unable to produce their own children but not having any desire to raise someone else’s genes.

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It takes two to tango

wow

such insight

much detail

contribution!

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White women have always been the most privileged group in this country.

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They are now. Aside from Bill Burr comedy skits, which are hilarious FTR, can you justify this sentiment considering actual history?

Men are allowing them that privilege.

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They were never asked to fight wars or do the back breaking, lifespan shortening labor that men do and have always done. Men protected them, sacrificed their lives for them. White women were always held up as the ideal when it comes to beauty and womanhood. They were provided for, not providers. Welfare was created for white women.

In all history actually, though I don’t think privileges bestowed on women are inherently bad.

What I don’t like is granting these privileges and then being gaslit, given the finger, and behaving in anti-social manner in return.

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Oh shut it you bigot. Just be a man!

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I do my part, lol

That’s an interesting take. I have a hard time framing welfare, without the option of self-provision, as privilege personally. As an extreme take on your logic, would you consider kidnapping/hostage victims privileged? They’re housed, fed at least enough to not die, are not expected and are even discouraged to think for themselves and are told how to live in spite of their own opinions. This isn’t dissimilar to women prior to the suffrage and even civil rights movement, especially considering beating women in to submission was totally legal. You could even force them in to sex which is still a concept facing legal challenges today. I have to tell you, with my daughter as a continued cross-thread example, if she ever became a “captive” in a relationship with abuse keeping her in line, her abuser would learn some equality/equity lessons very quickly. And men better have protected women they owned. What man wouldn’t protect his property? Hell, we have castle doctrine laws for that. Deadly force to protect anything from a TV to a spouse.

Today women are privileged. They get to have their cake and eat it too. Men do still typically take on a protector role while women use legal loopholes to cherry pick where they want to apply their protected status and affirmative action bullshit. We’ve flown the coup across the board with the equity bullshit overtaking equality of opportunity for sure but a sweeping title of privilege doesn’t fit, and boomerangs can hurt.

Regarding wars, aren’t women serving in combat roles now? Fodder for a whole different conversation but do you support female combat roles as they apply to equality? Were you yourself drafted, or was the military a personal choice you were allowed to make, with the situations you ultimately found yourself in being self-chosen?

I don’t see what beauty standards have to do with anything. White women are attractive :man_shrugging:t3:. Attraction is a reactive, automatic response and it just so happens most people generally find white women beautiful. This isn’t privilege, if anything it’s natural selection.

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I agree, but that’s only due to the world adopting white supremacy.

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Meh, I agree but if you just look at the top 10 world economies you’ll see it’s mostly pale skin with only a slight advantage over Asian.

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Economies built by blood, oh well, it is what it is.

Name 1 that isn’t

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